Nineteen-month-old male charge like to play with a baby doll at the library playroom.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP that posted about the DD being gay and not the son that DB worried about, well not worried exactly, but didnt want playing with girly things.
There is nothing you can do about your kid being gay, if they are gay they are gay, thats the way it is. You can either support them or ostracize them.

What I laugh about is the irony, so many Dads dont want their boys being perceived as girly or feminine, The boys grow up to be straight and then the sisters are gay.
I am gay and my Dad was the same.
Apparently when we were little my brother wanted to push my stroller and doll around. My Dad didnt like this so brought my brother a wheelbarrow to push around.
My brother is straight and im gay...................irony.

PP, I don't mean to belittle your experiences nor those of the charges you have cared for but PLEASE do not continue to perpetuate the stereotype that sexual orientation IN ANY WAY has anything to do with performing (or not) the acts of your assigned gender. People are gay or straight regardless of they toys they are encouraged or discouraged to play with, the orientation of the people raising them, ect. Your argument that daughters of homophobic dads turn out gay more often than sons is just as offensive as the argument of the DB in question.
Sexual orientation is innate, and is minimally affected by childhood experiences. You, as a queer person yourself, should know better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP that posted about the DD being gay and not the son that DB worried about, well not worried exactly, but didnt want playing with girly things.
There is nothing you can do about your kid being gay, if they are gay they are gay, thats the way it is. You can either support them or ostracize them.

What I laugh about is the irony, so many Dads dont want their boys being perceived as girly or feminine, The boys grow up to be straight and then the sisters are gay.
I am gay and my Dad was the same.
Apparently when we were little my brother wanted to push my stroller and doll around. My Dad didnt like this so brought my brother a wheelbarrow to push around.
My brother is straight and im gay...................irony.

PP, I don't mean to belittle your experiences nor those of the charges you have cared for but PLEASE do not continue to perpetuate the stereotype that sexual orientation IN ANY WAY has anything to do with performing (or not) the acts of your assigned gender. People are gay or straight regardless of they toys they are encouraged or discouraged to play with, the orientation of the people raising them, ect. Your argument that daughters of homophobic dads turn out gay more often than sons is just as offensive as the argument of the DB in question.
Sexual orientation is innate, and is minimally affected by childhood experiences. You, as a queer person yourself, should know better.

You two are agreeing. Note the bolded text - you are saying the same thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP that posted about the DD being gay and not the son that DB worried about, well not worried exactly, but didnt want playing with girly things.
There is nothing you can do about your kid being gay, if they are gay they are gay, thats the way it is. You can either support them or ostracize them.

What I laugh about is the irony, so many Dads dont want their boys being perceived as girly or feminine, The boys grow up to be straight and then the sisters are gay.
I am gay and my Dad was the same.
Apparently when we were little my brother wanted to push my stroller and doll around. My Dad didnt like this so brought my brother a wheelbarrow to push around.
My brother is straight and im gay...................irony.

PP, I don't mean to belittle your experiences nor those of the charges you have cared for but PLEASE do not continue to perpetuate the stereotype that sexual orientation IN ANY WAY has anything to do with performing (or not) the acts of your assigned gender. People are gay or straight regardless of they toys they are encouraged or discouraged to play with, the orientation of the people raising them, ect. Your argument that daughters of homophobic dads turn out gay more often than sons is just as offensive as the argument of the DB in question.
Sexual orientation is innate, and is minimally affected by childhood experiences. You, as a queer person yourself, should know better.

You two are agreeing. Note the bolded text - you are saying the same thing.

I can read, I know we had the same essential point. I was disagreeing with the section below that. The fact that PP's father did not want her brother to play with a stroller, or that her charges father did not want his son playing with dolls, has nothing to do with any of the sexual orientations that resulted. She seemed to be implying that there was some correlation, I was pointing out the danger in this thinking as well.

Try reading past the buzz words.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP that posted about the DD being gay and not the son that DB worried about, well not worried exactly, but didnt want playing with girly things.
There is nothing you can do about your kid being gay, if they are gay they are gay, thats the way it is. You can either support them or ostracize them.

What I laugh about is the irony, so many Dads dont want their boys being perceived as girly or feminine, The boys grow up to be straight and then the sisters are gay.
I am gay and my Dad was the same.
Apparently when we were little my brother wanted to push my stroller and doll around. My Dad didnt like this so brought my brother a wheelbarrow to push around.
My brother is straight and im gay...................irony.

PP, I don't mean to belittle your experiences nor those of the charges you have cared for but PLEASE do not continue to perpetuate the stereotype that sexual orientation IN ANY WAY has anything to do with performing (or not) the acts of your assigned gender. People are gay or straight regardless of they toys they are encouraged or discouraged to play with, the orientation of the people raising them, ect. Your argument that daughters of homophobic dads turn out gay more often than sons is just as offensive as the argument of the DB in question.
Sexual orientation is innate, and is minimally affected by childhood experiences. You, as a queer person yourself, should know better.

You two are agreeing. Note the bolded text - you are saying the same thing.

Odd how some people change midlife.

[Anonymous]

OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am the PP that posted about the DD being gay and not the son that DB worried about, well not worried exactly, but didnt want playing with girly things.
There is nothing you can do about your kid being gay, if they are gay they are gay, thats the way it is. You can either support them or ostracize them.

What I laugh about is the irony, so many Dads dont want their boys being perceived as girly or feminine, The boys grow up to be straight and then the sisters are gay.
I am gay and my Dad was the same.
Apparently when we were little my brother wanted to push my stroller and doll around. My Dad didnt like this so brought my brother a wheelbarrow to push around.
My brother is straight and im gay...................irony.

PP, I don't mean to belittle your experiences nor those of the charges you have cared for but PLEASE do not continue to perpetuate the stereotype that sexual orientation IN ANY WAY has anything to do with performing (or not) the acts of your assigned gender. People are gay or straight regardless of they toys they are encouraged or discouraged to play with, the orientation of the people raising them, ect. Your argument that daughters of homophobic dads turn out gay more often than sons is just as offensive as the argument of the DB in question.
Sexual orientation is innate, and is minimally affected by childhood experiences. You, as a queer person yourself, should know better.

You two are agreeing. Note the bolded text - you are saying the same thing.

I can read, I know we had the same essential point. I was disagreeing with the section below that. The fact that PP's father did not want her brother to play with a stroller, or that her charges father did not want his son playing with dolls, has nothing to do with any of the sexual orientations that resulted. She seemed to be implying that there was some correlation, I was pointing out the danger in this thinking as well.

Try reading past the buzz words.

You might be able to read for content, but your critical reading skills are in need of some polishing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Wow. The mother seems somewhat detatched. Is the father more connected with the child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Wow. The mother seems somewhat detatched. Is the father more connected with the child?

You can read that much into the situation just because mom isn't the one to relieve the nanny daily?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Why do you keep taking him there to put him in a situation that is harming him? And also blatantly trying to go against DBs wishes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Why do you keep taking him there to put him in a situation that is harming him? And also blatantly trying to go against DBs wishes.

OP here and my charge loves the library. We read, go to story time and then he plays. There is NOTHING in the situation that is "harming him" but everything in the situation that helps his growth, education and development. DB never said not to take him to the library or the playroom, he just said he didn't like him playing with dolls.

But yes - I absolutely would have gone against DB's wishes and allowed my charge to play with the doll if he wanted to. I didn't agree with DB and had decided to talk to MB about it. Fact remains, the situation resolved itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Wow. The mother seems somewhat detatched. Is the father more connected with the child?

No, my MB is not at all disconnected from my charge. She is a wonderful mother. She just works 10 hour days, four days a week, so she can spend three full days with her child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Why do you keep taking him there to put him in a situation that is harming him? And also blatantly trying to go against DBs wishes.

OP here and my charge loves the library. We read, go to story time and then he plays. There is NOTHING in the situation that is "harming him" but everything in the situation that helps his growth, education and development. DB never said not to take him to the library or the playroom, he just said he didn't like him playing with dolls.

But yes - I absolutely would have gone against DB's wishes and allowed my charge to play with the doll if he wanted to. I didn't agree with DB and had decided to talk to MB about it. Fact remains, the situation resolved itself.

You don't have books at home?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Why do you keep taking him there to put him in a situation that is harming him? And also blatantly trying to go against DBs wishes.

OP here and my charge loves the library. We read, go to story time and then he plays. There is NOTHING in the situation that is "harming him" but everything in the situation that helps his growth, education and development. DB never said not to take him to the library or the playroom, he just said he didn't like him playing with dolls.

But yes - I absolutely would have gone against DB's wishes and allowed my charge to play with the doll if he wanted to. I didn't agree with DB and had decided to talk to MB about it. Fact remains, the situation resolved itself.

You don't have books at home?

LOL Yes, my change has lots of books at home and we read them all the time. Children like variety, PP, and the more books he is exposed to the better for him.

Public libraries are GOOD PLACES.

[Anonymous]

I'm glad it worked itself out, OP, without any drama.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here with a comical update - First, I had ever intention of talking to MB about what her husband said but only see her on Fridays. So, yesterday I take my charge to the library play room with every intention of letting him play with the baby doll and he wasn't the least bit interested. He didn't even pick it up once! My MB ended up working late yesterday so I didn't see her and DB didn't mention it again.

Why do you keep taking him there to put him in a situation that is harming him? And also blatantly trying to go against DBs wishes.

OP here and my charge loves the library. We read, go to story time and then he plays. There is NOTHING in the situation that is "harming him" but everything in the situation that helps his growth, education and development. DB never said not to take him to the library or the playroom, he just said he didn't like him playing with dolls.

But yes - I absolutely would have gone against DB's wishes and allowed my charge to play with the doll if he wanted to. I didn't agree with DB and had decided to talk to MB about it. Fact remains, the situation resolved itself.

You don't have books at home?

LOL Yes, my change has lots of books at home and we read them all the time. Children like variety, PP, and the more books he is exposed to the better for him.

Public libraries are GOOD PLACES.

Your boss, the childs father, has asked you to stop putting him in that situation. Grow up and act right.