Experience vs degree?yound vs old with diabetes?

[Anonymous]

Mom with special needs child here. Keep looking. My husband and I have been at this so long that we know the right therapist at hello. It would concern me more that Nanny B did not pick up right away on DS's attempt to get more to drink than the fact she was overweight with diabetes. Nanny A is inexperienced and you do not want that for a special needs nonverbal child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Mom with special needs child here. Keep looking. My husband and I have been at this so long that we know the right therapist at hello. It would concern me more that Nanny B did not pick up right away on DS's attempt to get more to drink than the fact she was overweight with diabetes. Nanny A is inexperienced and you do not want that for a special needs nonverbal child.

Its hard to learn non-verbals and it takes some time. We have that issue with close family and a non-vebal three year old who they see weekly. Anyone is going to have a slow start but if the nanny is trying then that is a positive. If the nanny does it differently but works for the child, then that is good for the child to have different ways of doing things. This is not a therapist. The child should get separate therapy supplemented by the nanny and parents. It sounds like the nanny tried very hard and should get props for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom with special needs child here. Keep looking. My husband and I have been at this so long that we know the right therapist at hello. It would concern me more that Nanny B did not pick up right away on DS's attempt to get more to drink than the fact she was overweight with diabetes. Nanny A is inexperienced and you do not want that for a special needs nonverbal child.

Its hard to learn non-verbals and it takes some time. We have that issue with close family and a non-vebal three year old who they see weekly. Anyone is going to have a slow start but if the nanny is trying then that is a positive. If the nanny does it differently but works for the child, then that is good for the child to have different ways of doing things. This is not a therapist. The child should get separate therapy supplemented by the nanny and parents. It sounds like the nanny tried very hard and should get props for that.

You made a good point about the nanny not being a therapist. We actually hired an experienced nanny who we had trained as a behavioral therapist since she had good instincts and was a quick study. Nanny B did try and deserves a trial period.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mom with special needs child here. Keep looking. My husband and I have been at this so long that we know the right therapist at hello. It would concern me more that Nanny B did not pick up right away on DS's attempt to get more to drink than the fact she was overweight with diabetes. Nanny A is inexperienced and you do not want that for a special needs nonverbal child.

Its hard to learn non-verbals and it takes some time. We have that issue with close family and a non-vebal three year old who they see weekly. Anyone is going to have a slow start but if the nanny is trying then that is a positive. If the nanny does it differently but works for the child, then that is good for the child to have different ways of doing things. This is not a therapist. The child should get separate therapy supplemented by the nanny and parents. It sounds like the nanny tried very hard and should get props for that.

You made a good point about the nanny not being a therapist. We actually hired an experienced nanny who we had trained as a behavioral therapist since she had good instincts and was a quick study. Nanny B did try and deserves a trial period.

There is also a big difference with a behavioral issue and a speech/ot delay. For a behavioral issue, I'd be more concerned as you are saying but a speech delay just needs someone patient and willing to figure out the child, routine and work with the child in finding how to get the speech out. Leave the therapy work to the speech therapist and if nanny has a car and parents have health insurance. I'd do speech therapy several times a week with some nanny training from the therapist. My child has a speech delay and we were told to try the ABA and it was a waste of time as they work on behavioral issues and we didn't have anything to work on and speech therapy is far more effective. The ABA therapist did very simple speech therapy but nothing more than I could do and it was just a waste of our time as she was always a few months behind what the speech therapists were doing. Sometimes kids just talk late and do other stuff later and the supports are wonderful but they don't need the heavy duty approach.

I would be concerned about having Nanny A hired and just move out without a trial. If she really wanted the job, she'd come for a few days to visit/interview given she has a free place to stay.

[Anonymous]

Nanny A is young, energetic and most likely has no health issues. She also has the motivation to get her college education on! Her cons would be little experience but she has the brains and most likely common sense

Nanny B - Older, health issues, overweight which could render her lazy. She does have experience however.

[Anonymous]

Nanny B is dangerous. Nanny A is not. Easy choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Nanny B is dangerous. Nanny A is not. Easy choice.

Nanny A has never been a nanny. She might not have the patience or stamina for it.
She is moving from out of state (to be with a boy?) and has never met the family or the child. She might be an emotional basket case (what if they break up?) or a complete nutjob, but since OP can't meet her she can't judge that.
She says she wants to continue her education - so does this mean she'll quit once she gets into school? She might leave them high and dry once she gets what she's after (residency?).

Those are three very real "dangers" (I wouldn't have chosen that word, but since you did...) of Nanny A.

[Anonymous]

You can't compare hiring a college grad with limited nanny experience against someone who should not be driving or watching a child because of their health. Nanny B is dangerous. There is a reason why insurance and driver license regulations differ for people with diabetes. My aunt who was only a few years older than Nanny B fell asleep at the wheel twice from miscalculating the insulin, carbs and meal timing. She just felt tired and luckily no one was injured but this happens ALOT. Its difficult to get the hang of the meal timing, medication, and insulin. Low blood sugar can make you incredibly tired all of a sudden or pass out or become disoriented. High blood sugar is just as dangerous.

I wonder if there is just one nanny who is taking offense that someone may not want to hire an overweight nanny posting several times because the advice to ignore the danger of diabetes in this situation is plain irresponsible.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can't compare hiring a college grad with limited nanny experience against someone who should not be driving or watching a child because of their health. Nanny B is dangerous. There is a reason why insurance and driver license regulations differ for people with diabetes. My aunt who was only a few years older than Nanny B fell asleep at the wheel twice from miscalculating the insulin, carbs and meal timing. She just felt tired and luckily no one was injured but this happens ALOT. Its difficult to get the hang of the meal timing, medication, and insulin. Low blood sugar can make you incredibly tired all of a sudden or pass out or become disoriented. High blood sugar is just as dangerous.

I wonder if there is just one nanny who is taking offense that someone may not want to hire an overweight nanny posting several times because the advice to ignore the danger of diabetes in this situation is plain irresponsible.

Maybe Nanny B isn't the right choice (although I really think we are making a LOT of assumptions when she might be just 10 pounds overweight with very mild and entirely managed diabetes), but that doesn't by default make Nanny A the right choice either. Surely you can see that?

[Anonymous]

Maybe Nanny B isn't the right choice (although I really think we are making a LOT of assumptions when she might be just 10 pounds overweight with very mild and entirely managed diabetes), but that doesn't by default make Nanny A the right choice either. Surely you can see that?

It doesn't matter whether she is 10 lbs or 100lbs! The issue is the risks that being on insulin present for driving and watching a special needs kids by yourself. These risks are still present with managed diabetes. The problems are an acute reaction to mismatching the meal timing, insulin, and carbs you are eating. Your recent level of activity and exertion can also affect this. If nanny B is hundreds of lbs overweight it can make it more difficult to not be off but its still a risk at lower weights. If she is in the process of losing weight its even harder as that variable is changing.

Mismanaged diabetes brings out issues of chromic vision problems, loss of mobility, and a host of other issues but its the acute reaction to BS levels that make this dangerous.

[Anonymous]

What did you decide, OP?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is the many going to go to school working 50 hrs a week? She's not, thus not rashly that serious about that degree. Go with nanny b.

I am going to school part time and working 55 hours a week. I am very serious about school, but I also need to work, so I have to balance the two. Until you have done both, please don't make assumptions about the dedication of a person to either pursuits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Maybe Nanny B isn't the right choice (although I really think we are making a LOT of assumptions when she might be just 10 pounds overweight with very mild and entirely managed diabetes), but that doesn't by default make Nanny A the right choice either. Surely you can see that?

It doesn't matter whether she is 10 lbs or 100lbs! The issue is the risks that being on insulin present for driving and watching a special needs kids by yourself. These risks are still present with managed diabetes. The problems are an acute reaction to mismatching the meal timing, insulin, and carbs you are eating. Your recent level of activity and exertion can also affect this. If nanny B is hundreds of lbs overweight it can make it more difficult to not be off but its still a risk at lower weights. If she is in the process of losing weight its even harder as that variable is changing.

Mismanaged diabetes brings out issues of chromic vision problems, loss of mobility, and a host of other issues but its the acute reaction to BS levels that make this dangerous.

Again we have no evidence that her nanny is mismanaging her diabetes. In fact she isn't even required to disclose that she has diabetes!!! You're a straight up ass for saying for that reason alone she is a danger in this job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How is the many going to go to school working 50 hrs a week? She's not, thus not rashly that serious about that degree. Go with nanny b.

I'm close to finishing a degree (just need to get through my internship quarters). I've done this while working 50 hours/week as a nanny. I took 2-3 classes each 10 week quarter in order to finish the degree. It is possible...not fun or easy, but possible if you're serious about the degree.

[Anonymous]

21:53 is an absolute moron. I normally don't resort to calling people stupid on this board no matter how idiotic they present themselves, but this poster is a moron.

1. It doesn't matter whether her diabetes is mismanaged or managed. The risks for passing out, mental confusion, or sudden blurred vision can happen to someone who is managing their diabetes. Its an acute (sudden, not long term) reaction to miscalculating the insulin/carbs/BS levels.

2. If she is driving the child, she would end up needing to disclose this to her employer for car insurance coverage. There is a reason why insurance rates and driving restrictions exist for people taking insulin.

3. Why on earth are you se hell bent on giving irresponsible advice on a subject where you clearly lack any knowledge? Your going to the extremes of completing ignoring medical facts?( Are you also the anti vaccination poster who is convinced you get the flu from the flu shot? ) Yet, you have no problem concocted crazy scenarios about nanny A. You don't think its a stretch to advise the OP that any college grad looking to relocate for a significant other is someone who will be a nutcase and emotional basket case because he boyfriend will eventually dump her???