Defining Federal Holidays and Time Off
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MB's
I work in the private sector and don't receive all federal holidays but I give my nanny the same amount of federal holidays given but in the combination that's given to me: No Veteran's Day but Day after Thanksgiving. My current nanny pouts that she does not have Columbus Day or Veteran's Day off but I dont have them off either. Instead I get the Fourth and the day after the Fourth. So I give those to her. The day AFTER the fourth is not a holiday. How do you deal with this? I'm still giving her the same amount that I get off. Am I better off given her the official federal holidays but pulling back on the Day after Thanksgiving and the Day after the Fourth. in the end i get 10 and she gets 10 but it seems she's always complaining. |
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I'm in a similar situation in that I don't get all federal holidays off. However, I have explained it to my nanny and it is spelled out in our contract and there is no problem.
I would have little or no patience for a nanny who would pout about Columbus Day but be silently and happily entitled to have the day of Thanksgiving off. Don't entertain the pout. |
Anonymous
+1 MB here. I have the same holiday schedule as you (days after holidays off). I explained it when we contracted. I'd tell her she can use vacation if she really feels the need to take these days off. |
Anonymous
Another +1. It was all laid out in the beginning during contract negotiations. All days that I have off ( I get more days off than DH), she has off. But I don't get Veteran's Day or President's Day off. I do get the day after Thanksgiving, July 5th, and depending on where it falls on the calendar year, Dec. 26th. I also get off at 1 on the day before major holidays and take off Christmas Eve. Christmas Eve is accounted for in the holiday schedule, and if I take off the day before any other holiday (sometimes Thanksgiving or New Years Eve) DS' nanny is off without it counting as part of our week of choosing for vacation. She gets 1 week we choose and 2 weeks she chooses. |
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I'm a nanny and I don't get veterans or Columbus holidays off. Sorry I don't count those as holidays. Same for the day after the 4th. I did work the 4th this year but was paid a day in full than paid double time for thehhours I worked. It was awesome.
My current family I get a week a Thanksgiving and a week a Christmas but that's because the family flies to see relatives. I would count the major ones Thanksgiving, Christmas, Easter, 4th umm what else is there?? Maybe half a day Halloween (which is what I contracted and they are ok with because they want to take their kids out). I'm sure there are more holidays but the whiskey has been flowing for awhile 
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| As a nanny, I can care less about Columbus Day , but Veterans Day I would have requested off in the contract for personal reasons. Outside of that, I'd absolutely request Thanksgiving, day after, Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, 1/2 day New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, Good Friday, Easter is a Sunday (so no need to add in), 4th of July, my birthday and Memorial Day. I believe this covers the major holidays. If everything is set in stone in your contract - nothing she says even matters, but if she's making a big deal, at least hear her out since she does have the kids all week. If it's such a big deal where you can't get off on those days or find an alternative, find a new nanny. |
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I'm a nanny and I think it's incredibly petty and immature to be complaining about working those days when you've made it very clear that she will follow your work schedule and what that schedule is.
If you had been sneaky about it and implied she'd get all federal holidays and then excluded some in the fine print, or if you were asking her to work when you had the day off, then I think there'd be some justification to be disgruntled. But that's clearly not what you've done here. She knew what the deal was when she took the job and now she's just whining about it. |
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OP here.
thank you for the responses and esp to the nanny posters. It's good to see I'm not being unreasonable. and most of all NOT sneaky. I showed her my time off which I didnt have to. I thought one of the nannies on here had a good idea of mix and matching birthdays and half days on new years eve and halloween. The worst part about this is that my nanny doesnt have kids. She resigned recently (thank God) and told my my husband all the nannies have veteran's day and columbus day and the days i have off and that was part of the reason. She seems to have forgotten the Xmas eve that I paid her and the 2 extra days. Here's where we went wrong and that's my fault, we didnt have a contract, we just put things in email. It was our first time hiring someone and I learned a lot of things. Thanks everyone. |
Anonymous
If you want your birthday of you should be taking a vacation day. Your birthday is not a reason to miss work. |
Anonymous
| I think its fine if you made things clear up front, OP. your nanny sounds like a child. I'm one of the nannies from the other holiday thread whose employers did NOT make the holiday issue clear up front. That, to me, is the issue, not the particular holidays that I get off. We negotiated for a specific holiday schedule, however our contract does not represent what we negotiated in person and through email. I am not like your nanny though, and I will work Veterans Day with the same positive attitude that I always do, but come contrct renegotiation they'll have to give me a really good reason to stay! |
Anonymous
| Contract contract contract. So many problems could be avoided with a contract since it a chance to make sure you are both on the same page by what is said, especially if original things are conveyed orally. |
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It's a good thing she left. She was trying to scam you. I have been a nanny for different families over the years and the only holidays I have gotten off for were New Years, Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and the day after and Christmas. While it is nice that some people get those other holidays off, it is not a standard thing at all.
And yes, next time have everything in writing. |
Anonymous
| yeap contract contract papers can talk that is all you have to do it |
Anonymous
| I think if you talk in the interview of the terms and conditions of employment will get even agreement of both parties, no matter if it is the holidays at home with family and work, but if you have had problems is good that she resigns and that is not happy with her job. everyone is free to find the right family. nanny I am and I do not mind working on holidays when the family everything and I trust and work together no matter work is good sometimes make the family feel like part of our lives is important |