Pay? hours? Not Enough?

[Anonymous]

Hi, I am a nanny and when accepting the position a few month ago we agreed on a time slot of 7am-3pm and a weekly pay (not hourly). Anyways each day they have pretty much been requesting me to show up a 6am! They do not come home until 3:30-4pm! Now they have added some days to where it's 6pm! I did not agree to those hours when I started...I do not mind helping out but, feel for those extra hours I should be paid more weekly? I think they feel like they pay me for the day? But that's not how I feel!! In the interview they gave me the hours I'd work per week and we came up with the price it would be worth! Now more hours are being added and I don't think it's worth the weekly price! They add up fast! I don't know if I should say something? Like I said Am willing to help out but this is becoming almost a weekly thing! I would love advice!

[Anonymous]

You are getting screwed, my friend. I am sorry. Did you get any references for these people?

[Anonymous]

It is too late now for this job, but in the future NEVER take a nanny job that isn't payed by the hour. You are going to get screwed. I learned this the hard way too.

[Anonymous]

Do you want to ask them about working on a written agreement, OP?

[Anonymous]

They are paying me good but, I feel I need more if the hours are not in the time frame we agreed on! I don't think it's too late....is it wrong of me to tell them that if they can't be home during the time we agreed on that I would like to bump up the weekly pay?

[Anonymous]

So tell them. Put on your big girl panties and discuss.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They are paying me good but, I feel I need more if the hours are not in the time frame we agreed on! I don't think it's too late....is it wrong of me to tell them that if they can't be home during the time we agreed on that I would like to bump up the weekly pay?

I think it's best to approach it professionally, OP, at this point. Work out a written agreement that you both can have a copy of. That way, no one "forgets", lol. Just casually bring it up. Say you'd like to check in about a few things. Maybe you'd like to do some evening workshops or whatever. Good luck, OP. You can do this, and they'll respect you for it if they're good people.

[Anonymous]

They asked you to do something illegal and such a contract is illegal. Federal law mandates that ALL domestic employees are psif hourly and paid OT for all hours over 40. Not paying you OT is a valid reason for quitting and collecting umemployment. Present them with a stayement of OT hours you have worked at 1.5 rate of pay. Learn to ne assertobe or you will always be taken advantage of by unscruplous people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They asked you to do something illegal and such a contract is illegal. Federal law mandates that ALL domestic employees are psif hourly and paid OT for all hours over 40. Not paying you OT is a valid reason for quitting and collecting umemployment. Present them with a stayement of OT hours you have worked at 1.5 rate of pay. Learn to ne assertobe or you will always be taken advantage of by unscruplous people.

I doubt they're concerned about legality -- probably pay under the table too.

[Anonymous]

Do you enjoy working for free?

[Anonymous]

They changed the arrangement when they changed the hours. You need to stand up for yourself and say something.

Like you need x more for the time from 6-7am & x more from 3-4 pm

Give an hourly rate so they know how much to add per week for the added daily hours.

Also talk with them about notice time. Yes some flexibility is great, but they should also give you ample notice of anytime changes (occasional running late for traffic aside). If they need you to work longer hours every day it should be discussed and agreed by all. I know personally I try to be flexible for my job, but some days I can't be super flexible

[Anonymous]

Have you tried talking to them. Figure out your hourly rate and tell them if you are going to work more hours, you will need additional pay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So tell them. Put on your big girl panties and discuss.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have you tried talking to them. Figure out your hourly rate and tell them if you are going to work more hours, you will need additional pay.

I agree. Take the "weekly pay" that you had come up with, figure out the total number of hours originally mentioned. Figure out what that comes out to as an hourly rate, then use that as your base rate. Tell them that any additional hours will need to be paid for at that rate, and if they are going to be asking you to come in early/stay late frequently, that you need to discuss changing your hours to include these as well.

Most families will say that they need someone until 7pm instead of 6pm if they know that they are going to be showing up anywhere from 6:30-7pm on a regular basis (not counting a day with bad traffic or them getting stuck at the office one night etc). You need to know your schedule so you can plan your personal life around that. It is unprofessional of them to not think ahead and include some extra buffer time if they will need it. If they get home 15 minutes early, then they can take a few minutes to start dinner or unwind before taking over the kids for you.

Also make sure that you get OT for any hours over 40 per week.

[Anonymous]

Yikes OP!! It is quite obvious to me this family intentionally conned you. They know exactly what they are doing and are trying to pull the wool over your eyes. You're no dummy and let them know in no uncertain terms.

People on here will advise you to discuss your terms and re-negotiate w/them, but I strongly advise you to jump ship here. Any family who would do this to their nanny is not a family I would EVER want to work for. They are nothing but shady free loaders/liars and I wouldn't want anything to do w/them.

Get your last paycheck and bounce.