Enforceable contract

[Anonymous]

By service provider, I'm referring to a company or independent contractor that provides a service. This does involve a contract and payment for hours worked can be challenged based on whether the service was delivered according to terms.

An hourly employee must be paid for all hours worked. "Worked" in this context means present. The employer can not challenge payment for past hours because the work did not meet the expectations or terms of the contract. They can only fire the employee.

[Anonymous]

What's the vaccine requirement about? Everyone has to be fully vaccinated? Who would be held liable for adverse reactions? TIA!

[Anonymous]

What's the vaccine requirement about? Everyone has to be fully vaccinated? Who would be held liable for adverse reactions? TIA!

Most agencies advertise that their nannies are up to date on their vaccines. Its a common requirement. If you happen to be anti-vax you would want to know whether your employer requires this before you start. If you are anti-vax you really should bring it up in the interview. Parents can forget that some people are less educated about vaccines and don't want to get one so they forget to bring it up. Once an outbreak of something hits and the AAP starts reminding everyone to get a flu shot or to ensure that your Pertussis vaccination is up to date if you work with young children or the elderly, the parents will require you to get one. You can object but they are well within their right to fire you. This isn't a good outcome for either party so its best to be upfront in the beginning if your part of the fringe anti-vax minority.

[Anonymous]

Of course the nanny should inspect the parents' and children's vac medical records to unsure that SHE is equally protected.

[Anonymous]

... ensure...

[Anonymous]

Lots of super educated families are anti-vac.

[Anonymous]

What's the point of signing on for a whole year when parents or nannies can end it, at will?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What's the point of signing on for a whole year when parents or nannies can end it, at will?

It is basically your word that you won't end it before the one year mark.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous
Lots of super educated families are anti-vac.

Ha! That's funny. You're saying that super educated families can still be stupidly anti-vax? Unusual position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous
Lots of super educated families are anti-vac.

Ha! That's funny. You're saying that super educated families can still be stupidly anti-vax? Unusual position.

It may be funny, but in my experience it is also true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the point of signing on for a whole year when parents or nannies can end it, at will?

It is basically your word that you won't end it before the one year mark.

Would you care to speculate what percentage of families and nannies follow through with their one year agreement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's the point of signing on for a whole year when parents or nannies can end it, at will?

It is basically your word that you won't end it before the one year mark.

Would you care to speculate what percentage of families and nannies follow through with their one year agreement?

Everyone tries to but if there are issues with either side, it will end before that. Or if one party decides to move, parents loses a job and can't afford a nanny anymore, had a nanny until they could get into the daycare they wanted and it comes through earlier than they thought, etc. But if you like your nanny and they like the family and position overall, then it will stick. After a year then things can be renegotiated as needed and maybe another year or more will come out of it.

[Anonymous]

From what I've seen among parents and nannies, the fantasy of attaining the one year mark, is more rare than not.

If you have the same family, or nanny, for "years", everyone knows that you've got bragging rights. We all know, that is not what really happens the vast majority of the time.

"I need a new nanny"

Or "I need a new job"

Is the norm, every few months.

Unfortunate, but true.

[Anonymous]

So the nannies on here can't say they have been worked most of their jobs for at least a year? I find that hard to believe. I think a year is average, 2 is great and those that still need someone FT for more might have a harder time keeping the nanny unless they hired someone that does more than just the 0-2yrs ages. So anything above 2 yrs is much more rare.

[Anonymous]

So the nannies on here can't say they have been worked most of their jobs for at least a year? I find that hard to believe. I think a year is average, 2 is great and those that still need someone FT for more might have a harder time keeping the nanny unless they hired someone that does more than just the 0-2yrs ages. So anything above 2 yrs is much more rare.

It seems that this board attracts some really questionable nannies. From their attitudes its not surprising that they are job searching every few months. Back to the original question of why have a one year work agreement if it is not enforcable as a contract. Some of the posters seem to not grasp the difference between a work agreement and a contract. A work agreement is a document or tool to ensure that both parties are on the same page and know what to expect. A good work agreement would prevent half of the constant arguments on this board by giving the employer and employee a vehicle to clarify their terms. Nannies need to learn to ask for what they want during the interview and contract stage not get pissy six months later when you don't get national arbor day paid/off and you happen to worship trees. Employers should look up what the actual federal holidays and list the actual holiday days in the contract rather than discover that X holiday is a federal holiday but since they aren't a fed they need to work.