Can someone explain to me how a live-in nanny situation works?

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through ALL of the replies and I know this thread is YEARS old but if you want to have a chance at finding a GOOD live-in nanny who will last you will do your live-in situation the right way. The GOOD nannies know what's up. Any legitimate nanny agency will tell you that a live-in nanny gets their agreed upon, which is for sure NOT less than a typical rate PLUS "free" room and board. Please people, nobody is paying to live where they work 24/7. If you do this situation ANY other way you are walking into a bad situation. You can cut corners all you want, but I have seen way too many children who were ruined by their parents hiring cheap help. Value your children people! I have worked for over 150 families have 75 5 star reviews from families and have spoken to and received feedback from many more in their search for childcare about their experiences. I have 7 straight years of experience of talking about, learning about, doing, and experiencing this topic first hand.

You have worked for 150 families as a live-in nanny?! Try again.

No NOT as a live-in nanny. I NEVER said my 150 families were from that. I was giving you context of my experience, which does actually of course INCLUDE being a live-in nanny among many other things. 100% I am kind of the most desired childcare giver in America at this point. lol I come with the most reviews/references you will ever find plus many other things that families love. I put in the work. I have had conversations with HUNDREDS of families over 8 years(sorry I realized I mispoke the first time...time flies) and I always make sure to get their feedback as well as having actually stepped into homes for a night or a day where I know the families have a regular nanny during the week. I can actually tell pretty well how much people pay their weekday nanny by how their kids have turned out/been trained...not trained. It's up to each parent really. You wanna pay cheap? Don't be upset when the results are cheap. Btw, one of my live in situations I was given a whole 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment in one of the most desirable and expensive cities in America. I was hired from across the country and the family had turned down many many folks before me. I don't know what your "try again" is about. I'm the one over here getting paid $50/hr+ from people I've just met...for sleeping children.

....and I was paid an actual REAL rate on top of my "free" 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment. It's really simple though. Nanny agencies take on legitimate nannies and nanny agencies will tell you what I just said. That it is "free" rent and board plus an actual rate(you shouldn't be paying your nannies by "salary" and legit nannies will know this.)To start, if you aren't hiring from a nanny agency, your expectations should already be adjusted. Eventually decent nannies go to agencies because they get tired of parents with no regulations trying to scam them. lol So they filter themselves out of your non-agency searches. Unless you are talking MONEY money. Then good nannies can also be found through word of mouth when they're not needed anymore by their original families for whatever reasons.

While I agree with portions of what you said, no nanny brags about 150 families in 8 years. Most nannies have at most three families in a year, and that’s only if they do shares, temp jobs or are part-time. It makes you said like a clueless sitter and undermines our argument.

Okay. Well, I'm not mad at you. I understand how it is hard for some folks to grasp that that many families have hired me. That's why I am the only one who does it. Around 30 of the children that I have cared for were on a full-time or regular basis. I have been paid to watch children ever since I was 10 years old. I am versatile. I also have a degree in economics and worked as an economic analyst for over a year after graduating college. Childcare nor economics are either of my career goals. But I have very much so enjoyed my time meeting families and filling in a very important niche. So as much as you would like to call me a "clueless sitter", sorry I've had the opportunity to speak with the most families across the country about their searches for childcare and their successes and failures, whether that's full-time, part-time, occasional unique gigs(they're out their...I've done them) and unfortunately a lot of parents will choose the hard way and try to go cheap. So I'm just trying to save someone some time. This "clueless sitter" can get a new family on the drop of a hat...if I wanted one and would do a superb job. I can make $100,000+/yr in extremely desirable gigs OR I can make $100,000 without having to make a commitment to any one family. Like I said, I can also get paid $50+/hr...for sleeping children. I am what you call QUALITY and personally I don't work for families who try to underpay me. Plenty of them have come back to me time and time again after they realize the reality...and I will STILL pass on them after they come back around to me because that mindset extends into other parts of how that family will treat you. Sorry, if you feel that my experience with speaking to HUNDREDS of families on their experiences and actually doing the job and being in this childcare world undermines your "argument". I know what I'm talking about, just offering my insight like everyone else.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't read through ALL of the replies and I know this thread is YEARS old but if you want to have a chance at finding a GOOD live-in nanny who will last you will do your live-in situation the right way. The GOOD nannies know what's up. Any legitimate nanny agency will tell you that a live-in nanny gets their agreed upon, which is for sure NOT less than a typical rate PLUS "free" room and board. Please people, nobody is paying to live where they work 24/7. If you do this situation ANY other way you are walking into a bad situation. You can cut corners all you want, but I have seen way too many children who were ruined by their parents hiring cheap help. Value your children people! I have worked for over 150 families have 75 5 star reviews from families and have spoken to and received feedback from many more in their search for childcare about their experiences. I have 7 straight years of experience of talking about, learning about, doing, and experiencing this topic first hand.

You have worked for 150 families as a live-in nanny?! Try again.

No NOT as a live-in nanny. I NEVER said my 150 families were from that. I was giving you context of my experience, which does actually of course INCLUDE being a live-in nanny among many other things. 100% I am kind of the most desired childcare giver in America at this point. lol I come with the most reviews/references you will ever find plus many other things that families love. I put in the work. I have had conversations with HUNDREDS of families over 8 years(sorry I realized I mispoke the first time...time flies) and I always make sure to get their feedback as well as having actually stepped into homes for a night or a day where I know the families have a regular nanny during the week. I can actually tell pretty well how much people pay their weekday nanny by how their kids have turned out/been trained...not trained. It's up to each parent really. You wanna pay cheap? Don't be upset when the results are cheap. Btw, one of my live in situations I was given a whole 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment in one of the most desirable and expensive cities in America. I was hired from across the country and the family had turned down many many folks before me. I don't know what your "try again" is about. I'm the one over here getting paid $50/hr+ from people I've just met...for sleeping children.

....and I was paid an actual REAL rate on top of my "free" 2 bedroom 2 bathroom apartment. It's really simple though. Nanny agencies take on legitimate nannies and nanny agencies will tell you what I just said. That it is "free" rent and board plus an actual rate(you shouldn't be paying your nannies by "salary" and legit nannies will know this.)To start, if you aren't hiring from a nanny agency, your expectations should already be adjusted. Eventually decent nannies go to agencies because they get tired of parents with no regulations trying to scam them. lol So they filter themselves out of your non-agency searches. Unless you are talking MONEY money. Then good nannies can also be found through word of mouth when they're not needed anymore by their original families for whatever reasons.

While I agree with portions of what you said, no nanny brags about 150 families in 8 years. Most nannies have at most three families in a year, and that’s only if they do shares, temp jobs or are part-time. It makes you said like a clueless sitter and undermines our argument.

Okay. Well, I'm not mad at you. I understand how it is hard for some folks to grasp that that many families have hired me. That's why I am the only one who does it. Around 30 of the children that I have cared for were on a full-time or regular basis. I have been paid to watch children ever since I was 10 years old. I am versatile. I also have a degree in economics and worked as an economic analyst for over a year after graduating college. Childcare nor economics are either of my career goals. But I have very much so enjoyed my time meeting families and filling in a very important niche. So as much as you would like to call me a "clueless sitter", sorry I've had the opportunity to speak with the most families across the country about their searches for childcare and their successes and failures, whether that's full-time, part-time, occasional unique gigs(they're out their...I've done them) and unfortunately a lot of parents will choose the hard way and try to go cheap. So I'm just trying to save someone some time. This "clueless sitter" can get a new family on the drop of a hat...if I wanted one and would do a superb job. I can make $100,000+/yr in extremely desirable gigs OR I can make $100,000 without having to make a commitment to any one family. Like I said, I can also get paid $50+/hr...for sleeping children. I am what you call QUALITY and personally I don't work for families who try to underpay me. Plenty of them have come back to me time and time again after they realize the reality...and I will STILL pass on them after they come back around to me because that mindset extends into other parts of how that family will treat you. Sorry, if you feel that my experience with speaking to HUNDREDS of families on their experiences and actually doing the job and being in this childcare world undermines your "argument". I know what I'm talking about, just offering my insight like everyone else.

Here's the reality also, some families cannot afford regular PRIVATE childcare and need to figure out a new set up for how they run they're household. Not everyone is ENTITLED to paid help. It has a cost. Go cheap, and don't expect anything more than cheap help, please. Take responsibility for how you allocate your financial priorities in your households.

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Also, the 150+ families was over the course of 1 year. I generally just don't count all the other ones since age 10, so in reality it's a lot more. But like I said, I've talked to hundreds of families about these things for 8 years, been an A+ full-time and part-time nanny, live-in and live-out. The variety of duties I have covered is too long for this. I have turned DOWN hundreds more families. And I would FOR SURE turn down someone who tries to pay me LESS for a live-in situation. Pass. You can't get hired immediately without a phone interview or in person interview if you are a "clueless sitter" by the way. People don't even interview me for anything that isn't long-term.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, the 150+ families was over the course of 1 year. I generally just don't count all the other ones since age 10, so in reality it's a lot more. But like I said, I've talked to hundreds of families about these things for 8 years, been an A+ full-time and part-time nanny, live-in and live-out. The variety of duties I have covered is too long for this. I have turned DOWN hundreds more families. And I would FOR SURE turn down someone who tries to pay me LESS for a live-in situation. Pass. You can't get hired immediately without a phone interview or in person interview if you are a "clueless sitter" by the way. People don't even interview me for anything that isn't long-term.

Thank goodness you don’t count families from when you were 10. It’s often the most ignorant of nanny wannabes that claim nanny experience before age 18. So you are self-important, a braggart, and ridiculously arrogant, but not stupid. Bless your heart.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, the 150+ families was over the course of 1 year. I generally just don't count all the other ones since age 10, so in reality it's a lot more. But like I said, I've talked to hundreds of families about these things for 8 years, been an A+ full-time and part-time nanny, live-in and live-out. The variety of duties I have covered is too long for this. I have turned DOWN hundreds more families. And I would FOR SURE turn down someone who tries to pay me LESS for a live-in situation. Pass. You can't get hired immediately without a phone interview or in person interview if you are a "clueless sitter" by the way. People don't even interview me for anything that isn't long-term.

Thank goodness you don’t count families from when you were 10. It’s often the most ignorant of nanny wannabes that claim nanny experience before age 18. So you are self-important, a braggart, and ridiculously arrogant, but not stupid. Bless your heart.

I meeeeeeeaaaaaan, if you say so. Lol I do teach my kids that I watch not to call people naaaaaames, but I am well aware that not everyone should be raising kids. You have a right to though. You know the 300+ kids I’ve been “important” enough to be hired to watch. Frankly, I don’t even know why you are fighting this so hard. It’s the reality. An agency would tell you the same thing that I’ve said. You have a RIGHT to try to scam someone into another way. Just don’t be surprised when you walk into a bad situation. I’ve seen too many parents struggle their way through this and a lot of them fumble over the fact that you aren’t paying anything worth anyone good to commit to. Start there. If you can’t afford it, you can’t afford it. Good nannies make $100,000+ plus benefits including benefits including many live in nannies.

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And I was EXPLAINING, in response to your “clueless sitter” comment. You felt the need to insult me early on as you were trying REALLY hard to undermine the facts and reality of hiring a live-in....says any nanny agency you talk to. Clearly you were having a hard time understanding my background so then I elaborated. You don’t know me. You don’t even know my name. Lol You calling me names doesn’t stop me from making money so if you feel like it. Lol

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If someone hires you as a nanny before you are 18 then you are a nanny. Point. Blank. Period. Summer nanny. Part-time nanny. Weekend nanny. After school nanny. Full-time nanny. It doesn’t matter. The checks still cash the same. I didn’t mean I don’t count them because I don’t count the experience I just literally meant I kept track for that one year so that’s why I have a figure. You have a condescending tone towards child caregivers. Not even talking about just the names you called me. At this point, I just get mad for all the child caregivers who have to deal with parents who treat them with this type of attitude. Please, having experience VERY early on is literally what has lead me to the point where I can turn down whomever I feel like. I think I’ve clarified everything now. Best of luck on your search.

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Anonymous wrote:Also, the 150+ families was over the course of 1 year. I generally just don't count all the other ones since age 10, so in reality it's a lot more. But like I said, I've talked to hundreds of families about these things for 8 years, been an A+ full-time and part-time nanny, live-in and live-out. The variety of duties I have covered is too long for this. I have turned DOWN hundreds more families. And I would FOR SURE turn down someone who tries to pay me LESS for a live-in situation. Pass. You can't get hired immediately without a phone interview or in person interview if you are a "clueless sitter" by the way. People don't even interview me for anything that isn't long-term.

150+ families in a year would be a sitter, not a nanny.

You may have nannies in other years. There’s just a huge difference, and trying to get employers to pay more by quoting outrageous numbers doesn’t work.

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150 families had you babysit for them. Your babysitting experience before age 18 is not nanny experience. I’m not sure who is hiring you, but either you are a great con artist or your babysitting clients don’t have much sense.

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First place to look should be Dpt of Labor. That would tell you that max you can deduct for room and board is $77/wk: $35/wk for room and $1.25 for lunch and $2.25 for dinner up
to a max of $42/wk. It’s surprising to me that people don’t look up and follow the most obvious guidelines.

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Anonymous wrote:First place to look should be Dpt of Labor. That would tell you that max you can deduct for room and board is $77/wk: $35/wk for room and $1.25 for lunch and $2.25 for dinner up
to a max of $42/wk. It’s surprising to me that people don’t look up and follow the most obvious guidelines.

Thank you for stating the facts. You are an important voice on all the the forums.

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Anonymous wrote:First place to look should be Dpt of Labor. That would tell you that max you can deduct for room and board is $77/wk: $35/wk for room and $1.25 for lunch and $2.25 for dinner up
to a max of $42/wk. It’s surprising to me that people don’t look up and follow the most obvious guidelines.

Thank you for stating the facts. You are an important voice on all the the forums.

+1

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Not to be rude, but it is NOT 'free rent' when the nanny is working. Just a pet peeve that I can't stand...

Sure it is. It's a benefit, like any other, and is considered in the compensation package offered to a nanny.

No, most of the time money is deducted from overall pay rate to "cover" the cost of room and board. If someone is paying full rate like they would for a live-out nanny (not reducing pay), then it would be free rent. But most people that would tell you they are paying full rate, are already paying on the low end of the scale.

Agreed, I think the whole idea of a "Live In Nanny" is a misnomer anyway. Work is an exchange, money for labor. If you want a "Live In Nanny" that means you want a Nanny who is there all the time - that is, one who does not leave - that is, one who does whatever you want their whole day. Then, to make things worse, they don't want to pay for that.. They just want the labor, without giving the money, and think that having you being there all the time is some kind of benefit to you, as though you being there to answer every whim all day, is somehow equivalent to being at your own home watching Jeopardy, or going out for dinner without asking permission. Sounds good if you have no opportunity to do that anyway, but beyond that, it's just a bad deal for the Nanny.

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Anonymous wrote:The value of the rent is not a taxable benefit is being a live in is a requirement of the job. This is important for both you and your nanny from a tax standpoint. If you charge her rent then she is paying that rent after taxes which hits her and you would be taxed on the rental income which hits you.

Live in nannies in this area make between $400-$600 a week for up to around 50 hours. She should have a private room and preferably her own bathroom. Live-ins are usually provided food but not an unlimited debit card at the grocery store. Most arrangement involve inviting the live in to share family meals, add some of her favorite things to the grocery list etc. If she wants something expensive, wants to eat out, wants to stock her own food this is up to her. She would cover her own personal things like shampoo etc, you would supply laundry detergent and other bulk shared things.

Un-like au pairs, allowing a live-in to use the family care as a personal car on off hours is not as common.

The poster is correct. You can create an LLC, use it as a rental space with taxable depreciation deductions the first year. You can also use the LLC as a business right-off. Double tax dedications!

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Unless your me the nanny and you get screwed over by the parent I have food board no pay what so ever and get shit for not paying bills or food this is my only and full time job I have not had a real day off in 7years this suscks