Can we talk about the equality act?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe transgender individuals deserve equal treatment under the law free from discrimination and hate. However, I have some issues with this movement and I think people are afraid to speak out for fear of being called transphobic. For example, biological males should not be competing against girls. This is just common sense and you can easily find studies showing the differences between male and female bodies. Hormones only change so much. Denying biological reality and saying transwomen are really women. I have no problem if an individual wants to identify as a woman but they are not a biological women. In the UK they are trying to use the words "cervix bearers" and "menstruators" instead of woman. I read the other day they want to replace the term "breastfeeding" with "chestfeeding". Lesbians have been accused of being transphobic if they don't want to date a transwoman with a "ladydick". Children should not be making lifelong decisions regarding transition including puberty blockers, mastectomies, and hormones causing irreversible changes. I have no problems if an adult with gender dysphoria wants to transition but children do not have mental capacity to be making a huge decision like that. Women fought hard for their own spaces and we deserve to feel safe. And yes women in prison have been raped by transgender women. And if a transgender women rapes a women they are recorded as a female perpetrator.


This is absolutely the case.
In a hearing this past week, Rand Paul was questioning Rachel Levine about her belief that children should be allowed to take puberty blockers and have transition surgery. She is, after all, the nominee for the assistant secretary of health. She also happens to be transgender.
After the questioning, Patty Murray apologized to Dr. Levine and said that they should not focus on "ideological" differences but on qualifications and policy differences. This IS a policy difference. If confirmed, in her role, she will have influence on health policies. Naturally, Rand Paul was crucified by the left for asking a pertinent question. The interaction between Paul and Levine is here:

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It included transgender. And transgender people existed in the Ancient Near East too. We know this because the Bible has a
prohibition against cross dressing. Why would they have such a prohibition if people weren't doing it?


How many took hormones and had genital surgery? I know there were eunochs. Did they wish to be that way? I think I've read that young choir boys also underwent some procedures to increase the length of time they would be sopranos. Was that a good thing?

Well the people that did these things apparently thought it was good, but unfortunately, there is nobody around left to ask. In all times and places, some people did strange things to their bodies. If you tell them they can't they often do it anyway. Sometimes they kill themselves if you don't let them. If they are that desparate for whatever crazy reason, it's better to let them do it rather than kill themselves.


Where else do we say we should give people what they want because the alternative is suicide? If someone threatens suicide, they need mental health treatment, not hormones and surgery.

Did you know that mental health treatment often doesn't work? Do you even know how difficult some cases are to treat and what kids who are not even transgender do to themselves while parents desperately try one treatment after another? Take your ablist privilege elsewhere and thank God if you don't.


Do we tell anorexics they really are fat and they should continue to starve themselves? Do we tell someone with a partner threatening suicide they should stay with them? Why is this suicide threat okay for transgender people but not other scenarios?


Letting transgender people take over women’s sports and bathrooms is more like forcing everyone in the world to never eat food in public again because it might offend an anorexic person or make them feel uncomfortable or not included.


Please don't give them any ideas.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe transgender individuals deserve equal treatment under the law free from discrimination and hate. However, I have some issues with this movement and I think people are afraid to speak out for fear of being called transphobic. For example, biological males should not be competing against girls. This is just common sense and you can easily find studies showing the differences between male and female bodies. Hormones only change so much. Denying biological reality and saying transwomen are really women. I have no problem if an individual wants to identify as a woman but they are not a biological women. In the UK they are trying to use the words "cervix bearers" and "menstruators" instead of woman. I read the other day they want to replace the term "breastfeeding" with "chestfeeding". Lesbians have been accused of being transphobic if they don't want to date a transwoman with a "ladydick". Children should not be making lifelong decisions regarding transition including puberty blockers, mastectomies, and hormones causing irreversible changes. I have no problems if an adult with gender dysphoria wants to transition but children do not have mental capacity to be making a huge decision like that. Women fought hard for their own spaces and we deserve to feel safe. And yes women in prison have been raped by transgender women. And if a transgender women rapes a women they are recorded as a female perpetrator.


This is absolutely the case.
In a hearing this past week, Rand Paul was questioning Rachel Levine about her belief that children should be allowed to take puberty blockers and have transition surgery. She is, after all, the nominee for the assistant secretary of health. She also happens to be transgender.
After the questioning, Patty Murray apologized to Dr. Levine and said that they should not focus on "ideological" differences but on qualifications and policy differences. This IS a policy difference. If confirmed, in her role, she will have influence on health policies. Naturally, Rand Paul was crucified by the left for asking a pertinent question. The interaction between Paul and Levine is here:





I agreed with everything he said but of course the media and twitter mob accused Rand Paul of being transphobic. How is it transphobic to question the idea that maybe it isn't a great idea to allow kids to medically take off label drugs used for prostate cancer, cut off healthy tissue, and sterilize them while overriding parental consent. The fact that people even questioning this are called transphobic is insane. I have read the studies and most of these kids end up becoming gay adults if left alone. They are very effeminate boys who become gay men. There will be a smaller percentage that will continue to have gender dysphoria and those individuals once they are adults should be allowed to transition if desired. Abigail Shrier wrote an excellent book called "Irreversible Damage" discussing how this transgender craze is seducing girls. I read in the UK there is something like a 3,000 percent increase in girls now identifying as transgender.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe transgender individuals deserve equal treatment under the law free from discrimination and hate. However, I have some issues with this movement and I think people are afraid to speak out for fear of being called transphobic. For example, biological males should not be competing against girls. This is just common sense and you can easily find studies showing the differences between male and female bodies. Hormones only change so much. Denying biological reality and saying transwomen are really women. I have no problem if an individual wants to identify as a woman but they are not a biological women. In the UK they are trying to use the words "cervix bearers" and "menstruators" instead of woman. I read the other day they want to replace the term "breastfeeding" with "chestfeeding". Lesbians have been accused of being transphobic if they don't want to date a transwoman with a "ladydick". Children should not be making lifelong decisions regarding transition including puberty blockers, mastectomies, and hormones causing irreversible changes. I have no problems if an adult with gender dysphoria wants to transition but children do not have mental capacity to be making a huge decision like that. Women fought hard for their own spaces and we deserve to feel safe. And yes women in prison have been raped by transgender women. And if a transgender women rapes a women they are recorded as a female perpetrator.

I agree and the bolded parts are the most concerning. My DD13 is an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and a feminist, and while she wants to protect transgender people from discrimination and violence, she’s also extremely alarmed by the the loss of cisgender women’s rights. She’s beginning to feel like if you have a penis, you can claim any space, and if you have a vagina, well, you’ll be labeled a bigot if you don’t agree.

There’s a reason why we mostly discuss transgender women in spaces that have traditionally been set aside for biological women, and rarely discuss transgender men trying to claim spaces that have traditionally been set aside for biological males. Why is it that cisgender women, transgender women, and even some transgender men feel safer if they don’t have to share restrooms, locker rooms or prison quarters with biological males? Sure, cisgender women can be violent and commit sex crimes and some of them are predators, but in the end, who do we all fear the most?
Anonymous
Liberal here who is increasingly skeptical of the trans focus the party is taking. I'm concerned about the influence on children. Hear me out. If an adult wants to do this, fine, whatever. But kids are naturally always looking to belong, to fit in, to have a group. This is just a way for these kids desperate for that connection and to have a "thing." It's internet contagion.

I will start voting for the least offensive Republicans if this keeps going. I'm not religious, so you can't call me a religious nut. I'm just pro-science and pro-woman.

If transwomen are women, then what are biological women? The trans positive lobby always jumps on "terfs" I think they call them and accuse them of reducing women to uteruses. No one is saying a woman who gets a hysterectomy or is infertile is not a woman. They totally m as ke that up. The reality is, their ability to carry a child (or not) IS what being a woman is to a lot of women. Why is it ok to dismiss their identity???
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Given the broad opposition to this bill, I am surprised that it passed the house. This is going to come back to haunt them politically.


They aren't worried about that because they plan to pass legislation that makes it so they don't have to.
Anonymous
The way to fight this nonsense is sticks and stones. Let them call you anything they damn want and charge on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I absolutely believe transgender individuals deserve equal treatment under the law free from discrimination and hate. However, I have some issues with this movement and I think people are afraid to speak out for fear of being called transphobic. For example, biological males should not be competing against girls. This is just common sense and you can easily find studies showing the differences between male and female bodies. Hormones only change so much. Denying biological reality and saying transwomen are really women. I have no problem if an individual wants to identify as a woman but they are not a biological women. In the UK they are trying to use the words "cervix bearers" and "menstruators" instead of woman. I read the other day they want to replace the term "breastfeeding" with "chestfeeding". Lesbians have been accused of being transphobic if they don't want to date a transwoman with a "ladydick". Children should not be making lifelong decisions regarding transition including puberty blockers, mastectomies, and hormones causing irreversible changes. I have no problems if an adult with gender dysphoria wants to transition but children do not have mental capacity to be making a huge decision like that. Women fought hard for their own spaces and we deserve to feel safe. And yes women in prison have been raped by transgender women. And if a transgender women rapes a women they are recorded as a female perpetrator.

I agree and the bolded parts are the most concerning. My DD13 is an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and a feminist, and while she wants to protect transgender people from discrimination and violence, she’s also extremely alarmed by the the loss of cisgender women’s rights. She’s beginning to feel like if you have a penis, you can claim any space, and if you have a vagina, well, you’ll be labeled a bigot if you don’t agree.

There’s a reason why we mostly discuss transgender women in spaces that have traditionally been set aside for biological women, and rarely discuss transgender men trying to claim spaces that have traditionally been set aside for biological males. Why is it that cisgender women, transgender women, and even some transgender men feel safer if they don’t have to share restrooms, locker rooms or prison quarters with biological males? Sure, cisgender women can be violent and commit sex crimes and some of them are predators, but in the end, who do we all fear the most?



JK Rowling brought up these issues and social media attacked her calling her transphobic and a TERF. She also received death and rape threats. I'm sure most of the individuals who attacked who never took the time to actually read what she wrote or used any kind of critical reasoning skills.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have two daughters who play sports. One (my high schooler) even plays on a tennis team and regularly plays against boy players. I am not concerned one iota about her losing out on a scholarship to a boy.

I am also not concerned in the least bit about being going to a public restroom and being attacked by a trans woman. I also am not concerned about my daughters going to a public restroom and being attacked by a transwoman.


I am not concerned about that either. The issue is, though, are you concerned about being attacked by a man who is fraudulently posing as a trans woman in a public restroom? If not, you're naive. There are bad people out there. It's a harsh reality.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hey conservatives, this is how your mom and dad felt about gay people back in the 80s. Learn something from their mistakes.


I am not a conservative, and this is not the same. There are real, practical issues at stake which have nothing to do with bigotry.
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Anonymous wrote:Hey conservatives, this is how your mom and dad felt about gay people back in the 80s. Learn something from their mistakes.


I am not a conservative, and this is not the same. There are real, practical issues at stake which have nothing to do with bigotry.



The gay rights movement did not take away rights from others. There are some among the gay community that want to drop the T from the LGBQT because gender identity is a separate issue than sexuality. You can read about how this movement has hurt lesbians. They are called transphobic bigots for not wanting to date transwomen. Their dating sites and lesbian only spaces have been overtaken. I've read about how women's dating accounts have been taken down if they specify they only want to date biological women. Gender non conforming gay kids are now encouraged to transition to the opposite gender.
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It is an awful bill. It has nothing to do with protecting LGBT people and everything to do with stripping women of sex-discrimination protections. In June, SCOTUS issued its Bostock decision making it clear that LGBT people are already protected under existing federal rights law...so, the bill isn’t extending rights to anyone but merely removes women’s existing sex-based rights.

This is a great analysis of the dystopian consequences that the Equality Act will have on women and girls:
https://journals.sagepub.com/eprint/HQCEMQYUYXDTCBKYCSBQ/full

A bunch of mostly left leaning women are protesting on Monday, March 8th.
https://womenpicketdc.org/
Anonymous
DraD wrote:It is an awful bill. It has nothing to do with protecting LGBT people and everything to do with stripping women of sex-discrimination protections. In June, SCOTUS issued its Bostock decision making it clear that LGBT people are already protected under existing federal rights law...so, the bill isn’t extending rights to anyone but merely removes women’s existing sex-based rights.

This is a great analysis of the dystopian consequences that the Equality Act will have on women and girls:
https://journals.sagepub.com/eprint/HQCEMQYUYXDTCBKYCSBQ/full

A bunch of mostly left leaning women are protesting on Monday, March 8th.
https://womenpicketdc.org/


Glad to see these women speaking out.
This is not a Dem or Republican issue. It has everything to do with the rights of women.
Anonymous
The scariest part of this is how easily democratic voters have gone along with this just because it is the party line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The scariest part of this is how easily democratic voters have gone along with this just because it is the party line.


Seriously. When did they become anti-woman? Because the T part of this bill is exactly that.
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