Where to meet this type of man?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the input and advice.

Yes, I know divorced men as a category are not bad. I just also know that I don't want to invest in someone I met online if I don't know who they are as a person first. My ex presented as a solid man, with a value set, family, etc. Turns out all was a lie. He's easily bored. He needed the world to worship him. Every act I committed was a sin against him. My hair wasn't shiny today? I insulted him. I didn't sweep before he came home? I'm a bad wife. What I now realize is that there was quite a bit of mental abuse in his background. His whole family lives a lie, not uncommon for people like them without saying more. But, he presents so well. No one would know.

I understand the value of working on myself, I've never stopped.

As for my friend, she's a great person. I'm glad she's happy. I don't think it's a facade. I think for those posters trying to compare us, or telling me to be like her, or the one who told me her husband is my "sole" mate, I don't think like you do. I have no desire to steal someone else's husband, even if he was my soul-mate. I have no desire to compete with people like my friend or be more like someone else. There's always room for improvement, I'm a good person. I volunteer, I donate my time and money, I'm kind, I'm a good friend, I'm intelligent, I could have a better career, be richer, etc. But so can anyone. I was a good wife. I was available to him emotionally, physically and sexually. But none of it mattered when the next shiny thing came along.

I get many men aren't like that, but I also have friends, and know many men are. Anyway, I think I got what I could from this. Thanks for all the input.


OP, how long did it take for you to realize that "all was a lie"? How long did you know your ex before you married him?

I'm concerned by you saying "I just also know that I don't want to invest in someone I met online if I don't know who they are as a person first." I mean, how do you expect to know who a person is before you take the time to get to know them? How do you expect to get to know them without "investing" in them? That is what dating is. Dating is getting to know someone and seeing them in a variety of situations over a period of time. Seeing how they react to a stressful situation. Seeing how they react to a time that you are in need/stressed out. Seeing how they treat their family, neighbors, wait staff, animals, children, and of course YOU. There is no one place you can be sure of meeting "good" guys, and there is no checklist of attributes that will assure you that you have met a kind, trustworthy, honest, dependable person. The only way to know if a person who is all those things is to invest time in getting to know them. When you experience things that show you the person is not kind, trustworthy, honest, dependable, caring, then you stop investing time in them. This can work for friends just as well as for potential romantic partners. And you can get to know people first before entering into a romantic relationship. But if you want to know someone well before dating then you need to cultivate friendships and activities where you meet and get to know new people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the input and advice.

Yes, I know divorced men as a category are not bad. I just also know that I don't want to invest in someone I met online if I don't know who they are as a person first. My ex presented as a solid man, with a value set, family, etc. Turns out all was a lie. He's easily bored. He needed the world to worship him. Every act I committed was a sin against him. My hair wasn't shiny today? I insulted him. I didn't sweep before he came home? I'm a bad wife. What I now realize is that there was quite a bit of mental abuse in his background. His whole family lives a lie, not uncommon for people like them without saying more. But, he presents so well. No one would know.

I understand the value of working on myself, I've never stopped.

As for my friend, she's a great person. I'm glad she's happy. I don't think it's a facade. I think for those posters trying to compare us, or telling me to be like her, or the one who told me her husband is my "sole" mate, I don't think like you do. I have no desire to steal someone else's husband, even if he was my soul-mate. I have no desire to compete with people like my friend or be more like someone else. There's always room for improvement, I'm a good person. I volunteer, I donate my time and money, I'm kind, I'm a good friend, I'm intelligent, I could have a better career, be richer, etc. But so can anyone. I was a good wife. I was available to him emotionally, physically and sexually. But none of it mattered when the next shiny thing came along.

I get many men aren't like that, but I also have friends, and know many men are. Anyway, I think I got what I could from this. Thanks for all the input.


The soul mate thing is a running joke on this board. The misspelling of soul as "sole" is a nice touch.
Anonymous
This is why I don’t tell my friends about my great relationship. You shouldn’t be looking for a man like your friend’s husband. You should be looking for a good man for you. You should already know what traits you’d like. If not, then work on yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:OP here. Thanks for all the input and advice.

Yes, I know divorced men as a category are not bad. I just also know that I don't want to invest in someone I met online if I don't know who they are as a person first. My ex presented as a solid man, with a value set, family, etc. Turns out all was a lie. He's easily bored. He needed the world to worship him. Every act I committed was a sin against him. My hair wasn't shiny today? I insulted him. I didn't sweep before he came home? I'm a bad wife. What I now realize is that there was quite a bit of mental abuse in his background. His whole family lives a lie, not uncommon for people like them without saying more. But, he presents so well. No one would know.

I understand the value of working on myself, I've never stopped.

As for my friend, she's a great person. I'm glad she's happy. I don't think it's a facade. I think for those posters trying to compare us, or telling me to be like her, or the one who told me her husband is my "sole" mate, I don't think like you do. I have no desire to steal someone else's husband, even if he was my soul-mate. I have no desire to compete with people like my friend or be more like someone else. There's always room for improvement, I'm a good person. I volunteer, I donate my time and money, I'm kind, I'm a good friend, I'm intelligent, I could have a better career, be richer, etc. But so can anyone. I was a good wife. I was available to him emotionally, physically and sexually. But none of it mattered when the next shiny thing came along.

I get many men aren't like that, but I also have friends, and know many men are. Anyway, I think I got what I could from this. Thanks for all the input.


When you date, don’t invest too much too fast. Read the book I recommended upthread - Why’ve does He Do That by Lundy Bancroft - because it’s REALLY important that you learn what to look for and take things slowly so that you can build a solid relationship. It takes TIME to learn about a persons habits and values.

How long were you with your husband before you got married? One sign of an abusive relationship is that they move really fast and are a whirlwind. It’s because the faster you fall, the more willing you are to keep them around after the bad times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:There’s no formula, but embodying the traits you’re looking for in a spouse is what you do have control over. Water finds its own level.


are you advocating flat earth?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old are you? I feel like there are a lot of men like this out there. However, most are probably married if you are above the age of first marriage. If so, I'd look for widowers. Divorced guys often have a lot of baggage.


I'm in my early thirties. Divorced, and agree that divorced guys have baggage. Besides, due to my own divorce, I'd never be able to fully trust a divorced guy. My ex was abusive and awful and still is but would come across as an angel. Ruined my ability to trust in my own judgement.



+1 Widower here...

Lonely_Sojourner
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How old are you? I feel like there are a lot of men like this out there. However, most are probably married if you are above the age of first marriage. If so, I'd look for widowers. Divorced guys often have a lot of baggage.


I'm in my early thirties. Divorced, and agree that divorced guys have baggage. Besides, due to my own divorce, I'd never be able to fully trust a divorced guy. My ex was abusive and awful and still is but would come across as an angel. Ruined my ability to trust in my own judgement.



+1 Widower here...



+1 Widower here as well, originally from the South...
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