Platonic texting and boundaries

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I feel like I have a poor gauge of what is normal in a marriage regarding friendships with the opposite sex, as DH had a brief emotional affair a few years ago when I was going through postpartum depression. It was a difficult time for us, but we recovered, and I feel like things have been pretty good. However, DH seems prone to conversations via text with other women that, in my opinion, become a little too frequent and slightly flirty. I don't read his texts or monitor his phone on a regular basis, but I did ask to see it after having several texts popped up over the course of a few days from a woman's name I didn't recognize. Turns out this is someone he knew during high school and they reconnected via Facebook. Nothing is subversive about the conversation - it's talk about kids, her new house, work, going to the gym... It's just a lot of conversation and what seems to me a lot of effort put into it (like pulling pictures from the internet and inserting to make a joke), just a level of attentiveness that makes me slightly uncomfortable. I am probably crazy, I don't want to micromanage his life or friendships, but what happened in the past has made me apprehensive.

I feel like there's something he's seeking in these texting relationships, whether it's validation, an ego boost, or just a little excitement. I don't think he intends to be inappropriate or start an affair, but as I've told him, it's the secretiveness of it that bothers me. If this were someone I knew or he mentioned her or talked about her in casual conversation, I would have no problem with it. It's not like I think he shouldn't talk to or be friends with other women. I just feel like he's keeping it private in a weird way. Is this normal?


OP - who reached out first? Your husband? Or this other woman? I'd be curious as to how this all started.

Also it sounds like you reach all of their conversations so far. As much as he is texting, at least he isn't deleting anything.

But you know, those who say it's a slippery slope? It is. You know that since he had an EA already. How'd he end the first one?



I'm not saying it is right - but there was an extenuating circumstance to his EA - his wife going through depression - and before all the crazies jump down my throat - I have seen plenty of DCUM posts about men with depression and all the DCUM harpies tell her to leave him because he can't get his shit together.

But that circumstance should be taken into account and if she has decided to forgive him and move on, then she NEEDS TO MOVE ON. These lingering doubts and insecurities are HER problem. If she can't move on, she SHOULD MOVE ON! But, she decided to stay and forgive him, and if she wants this marriage to work, then she needs to stop making all of her lingering insecurities and fears his problem. Otherwise, he WILL hide everything because he doesn't want to have to deal with his crazy wife.

And, it is NOT a secret and he is NOT hiding it.

Secrets and hiding would be him deleting the conversations and not leaving his phone in a place where his DW could even know that the texts were happening.

OP said she knew of the texts because his phone kept going off. Spouses who are hiding something do not leave their phone where others can see and they delete messages or tell their secret friends not to text at certain times, etc...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wife feels in her gut that something is wrong. Husband is being dismissive of her feelings.

That sort of settles it for me. Something is off, and they need to figure it out.

YOUR decision to trust or not trust or snoop or not snoop or not care about who your spouse is texting is irrelevant. What matters here is the fact that OP is uncomfortable, and asked her DH to talk about it, and he basically called her crazy because he's "private" and tried to shut it down.

Sounds like she has reason to be concerned.


Did you even read the OP??? DH didn't shut her down or tell her she is crazy...

He simply said he didn't tell her about the new friend because he is private. She asked to see his phone and he gave it to her... She looked through the texts, and there is nothing there...

Learn how to read and comprehend.
Anonymous
I had a work guy friend and we would often text regular dumb stuff and then his texts became flirty and quite personal. At work he would be professional but then I would receive these late nights texts that clearly were meant to turn a friendship into something more. It took a couple of weeks to cut him off but I learned a big lesson.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I had a work guy friend and we would often text regular dumb stuff and then his texts became flirty and quite personal. At work he would be professional but then I would receive these late nights texts that clearly were meant to turn a friendship into something more. It took a couple of weeks to cut him off but I learned a big lesson.


+1 This is exactly what happens.
Bella_lee
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Hi @OP, I think as women we have an instinct when things are out of sync. Normal for someone else's marriage might not necessarily be healthy for your marriage and communicating your feelings to your husband and vice versa is part of a good marriage in my opinion. My husband and I decided we needed healthy safeguards and boundaries to protect our marriage and this included not having private conversations with the opposite sex especially someone that was unknown to the other person. This was a decision we made together after going for marriage counselling and dealing with some issues we had gone through in our marriage. I hope with time, you will feel more reassured of your husband's fidelity and he more understanding of any concerns you may have.
Anonymous
He already had a inappropriate relationship once. Why is he texting befriending other women you don't know? Especially single ones.

OP he has a problem, it's not you.



Anonymous
Bella_lee wrote:Hi @OP, I think as women we have an instinct when things are out of sync. Normal for someone else's marriage might not necessarily be healthy for your marriage and communicating your feelings to your husband and vice versa is part of a good marriage in my opinion. My husband and I decided we needed healthy safeguards and boundaries to protect our marriage and this included not having private conversations with the opposite sex especially someone that was unknown to the other person. This was a decision we made together after going for marriage counselling and dealing with some issues we had gone through in our marriage. I hope with time, you will feel more reassured of your husband's fidelity and he more understanding of any concerns you may have.


This is really awesome you guys came to that agreement.
Anonymous
This is so bizarre. Do you both work? I mean how is this even possible if so. Do you never travel? Have work dinners? Need a mentor?
As a woman in a male dominated industry I’d never get anywhere if I had to agree to rules like this to be in a marriage.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre. Do you both work? I mean how is this even possible if so. Do you never travel? Have work dinners? Need a mentor?
As a woman in a male dominated industry I’d never get anywhere if I had to agree to rules like this to be in a marriage.


What are you talking about?? This has nothing to do with work. It's a high school classmate that he reconnected with via social media. He is building a relationship with her because he wants to, or gets a thrill out of it, not for work. Did you even read?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre. Do you both work? I mean how is this even possible if so. Do you never travel? Have work dinners? Need a mentor?
As a woman in a male dominated industry I’d never get anywhere if I had to agree to rules like this to be in a marriage.


What are you talking about?? This has nothing to do with work. It's a high school classmate that he reconnected with via social media. He is building a relationship with her because he wants to, or gets a thrill out of it, not for work. Did you even read?

Did YOU even read the PP??
They said they’d decided in THEIR marriage they wouldn’t talk to someone of the opposite sex their spouse didn’t know. How do you make it through life like that- and yes work too.
Anonymous
Literally the title is “platonic texting”.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He already had a inappropriate relationship once. Why is he texting befriending other women you don't know? Especially single ones.

OP he has a problem, it's not you.





Agree. That fact that you don't know he is befriending this lady is the problem. Why is hiding it? This guy doesn't have good boundaries. There is a pattern emerging.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre. Do you both work? I mean how is this even possible if so. Do you never travel? Have work dinners? Need a mentor?
As a woman in a male dominated industry I’d never get anywhere if I had to agree to rules like this to be in a marriage.


What are you talking about?? This has nothing to do with work. It's a high school classmate that he reconnected with via social media. He is building a relationship with her because he wants to, or gets a thrill out of it, not for work. Did you even read?

Did YOU even read the PP??
They said they’d decided in THEIR marriage they wouldn’t talk to someone of the opposite sex their spouse didn’t know. How do you make it through life like that- and yes work too.


I mean, you didn't quote the post or give any indication you were referring to it. The assumption would be that you were addressing the OP.

Anyway, I think the PP was saying that they don't just "chat" with people of the opposite sex and form friendships their spouse doesn't know about. Most people can differentiate networking/ exchanging information for work from forming personal relationships.
Anonymous
He already had an EA and he won’t respect you enough to not engage in flirty texts and other behaviors with other women? Writing is on the wall. I’m sorry OP. He’s still having EAs. Flirting and constantly communicating is pretty much the definition of an EA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is so bizarre. Do you both work? I mean how is this even possible if so. Do you never travel? Have work dinners? Need a mentor?
As a woman in a male dominated industry I’d never get anywhere if I had to agree to rules like this to be in a marriage.


What are you talking about?? This has nothing to do with work. It's a high school classmate that he reconnected with via social media. He is building a relationship with her because he wants to, or gets a thrill out of it, not for work. Did you even read?


Exactly. He has no business contacting these women, somewhat predatory.

He's looking for an affair and OP needs to shut it down. A heart to heart talk that it either stops, or these consequences will follow.

Pretty obvious especially with his past.
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