Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that material stored in your home can be stolen. If you keep stuff in your home, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that your wallet can be stolen. If you keep money in your wallet, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that banks can be robbed. If you put money in a bank account, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that hackers can steal online information. If you have a bank account with online access or a credit card that you use for online purposes or an email account that you use to send personal mail to friends and family, you are responsible if someone hacks the account and steals your money or personal information.


Do you see how stupid this argument sounds in any other context?

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

Right on. I think there are a few pervs on this thread who did indeed look at the stolen nudes and don't like being told they are gross human beings.

I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

So by your logic a woman who wears some sexy underwear or goes commando because it turns her on or she's doing it for her lover who gets upskirted is guilty because there has been lots of publicity about creeps who take upskirt pictures and post them on the net.

And a woman who gets on a crowded subway and gets groped is responsible because we all know that happens on subways and she put herself in a position where it could happen.

And a woman who walks past a construction site is responsible for the catcalls she receives because we all know about the stereotype of construction workers who do that.

Etc., etc.

Where on that slippery slope would you propose that we stop and accept that the woman is not at fault?

Who said anything about fault. I believe it was about accepting responsibility for being careless.
Seeing a nude of a person is not the same as sexual assault. As I womn who has been rapped I find your assertion disturbing.

About what was she careless?

She did something private and put it in what is considered a reasonably secure place. She took reasonable precautions to protect herself.

Someone had to commit a crime to publish those pictures - it was not her choice and they were only published because of their sexual nature.

How is that situation different from an upskirt picture or catcalls?

Anonymous wrote:Stop sexting

Anonymous wrote:You do not that Ms Lawerence did not utilize any of the additional safety precautions apple has beyond a single password and that was where were you born....not really very safe

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

+1

The (big) difference is that there is no longer any way to avoid having financial information online; I'm not aware of any financial institution that forswears computers entirely. So if you want to use the banking system in any way, you will be vulnerable to online hacking. And it's very hard, if not impossible, to live in the modern American economy without any access to banking: no mortgage, credit/debit cards, checking account, etc. It would be about as common, and about as practical, as trying to live off the electrical grid.

Whereas with nude selfies, it's pretty easy and obvious to avoid having this material online. I'm middle aged but I can't imagine any reasonable argument in favor of having nudie pics uploaded to the cloud. Frankly I don't see why anyone, particularly not a much photographed actress, needs nude pictures at all, but maybe I'm just old. Either way, no need whatsoever to put them online. And therefore infinitely more complicit in their eventual hacking and dissemination.

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You have insurance that provides for monetary compensation for things you lose.

As anyone who has been robbed will tell you, the insurance money doesn't do anything for your peace of mind.

In this case, something personal was stolen and shared with the world. The money (if there were any to be had) doesn't change that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that material stored in your home can be stolen. If you keep stuff in your home, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that your wallet can be stolen. If you keep money in your wallet, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that banks can be robbed. If you put money in a bank account, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that hackers can steal online information. If you have a bank account with online access or a credit card that you use for online purposes or an email account that you use to send personal mail to friends and family, you are responsible if someone hacks the account and steals your money or personal information.


Do you see how stupid this argument sounds in any other context?

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You carry traveler's checks on a daily basis? Plus, no one takes them anymore. That actually is pretty stupid if that's your plan for money protection. The PP didn't say lots of cash. They said cash. Even a one dollar theft is your fault.

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You have insurance that provides for monetary compensation for things you lose.

As anyone who has been robbed will tell you, the insurance money doesn't do anything for your peace of mind.

In this case, something personal was stolen and shared with the world. The money (if there were any to be had) doesn't change that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that material stored in your home can be stolen. If you keep stuff in your home, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that your wallet can be stolen. If you keep money in your wallet, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that banks can be robbed. If you put money in a bank account, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that hackers can steal online information. If you have a bank account with online access or a credit card that you use for online purposes or an email account that you use to send personal mail to friends and family, you are responsible if someone hacks the account and steals your money or personal information.


Do you see how stupid this argument sounds in any other context?

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You carry traveler's checks on a daily basis? Plus, no one takes them anymore. That actually is pretty stupid if that's your plan for money protection. The PP didn't say lots of cash. They said cash. Even a one dollar theft is your fault.

No. That is why I said, remember traveler's checks. I don't carry any more money than I can handle being stolen.

Also, I don't carry naked pictures of myself around in my wallet, because they could be stolen.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that material stored in your home can be stolen. If you keep stuff in your home, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that your wallet can be stolen. If you keep money in your wallet, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that banks can be robbed. If you put money in a bank account, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that hackers can steal online information. If you have a bank account with online access or a credit card that you use for online purposes or an email account that you use to send personal mail to friends and family, you are responsible if someone hacks the account and steals your money or personal information.


Do you see how stupid this argument sounds in any other context?

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You carry traveler's checks on a daily basis? Plus, no one takes them anymore. That actually is pretty stupid if that's your plan for money protection. The PP didn't say lots of cash. They said cash. Even a one dollar theft is your fault.

No. That is why I said, remember traveler's checks. I don't carry any more money than I can handle being stolen.

Also, I don't carry naked pictures of myself around in my wallet, because they could be stolen.

Seems that you're just untouchable. Nothing could ever happen to you in your life that would upset you, huh? You've set your life up to be utterly immune from victimhood. Keep telling yourself that.....

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that material stored in your home can be stolen. If you keep stuff in your home, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that your wallet can be stolen. If you keep money in your wallet, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that banks can be robbed. If you put money in a bank account, you are responsible if someone steals it.

You are stupid if you don't know by now that hackers can steal online information. If you have a bank account with online access or a credit card that you use for online purposes or an email account that you use to send personal mail to friends and family, you are responsible if someone hacks the account and steals your money or personal information.


Do you see how stupid this argument sounds in any other context?

Important stuff in my home: I have insurance
Wallet: remember traveler's checks, yes you are stupid if you carry lots of cash
banks: FDIC
Online: Use a credit card, it is protected, Debit cards are not.

Be responsible people.

You carry traveler's checks on a daily basis? Plus, no one takes them anymore. That actually is pretty stupid if that's your plan for money protection. The PP didn't say lots of cash. They said cash. Even a one dollar theft is your fault.

No. That is why I said, remember traveler's checks. I don't carry any more money than I can handle being stolen.

Also, I don't carry naked pictures of myself around in my wallet, because they could be stolen.

Seems that you're just untouchable. Nothing could ever happen to you in your life that would upset you, huh? You've set your life up to be utterly immune from victimhood. Keep telling yourself that.....

Seems like you are a martyr. Life us full of disappointments and suffering. Maybe you should study Buddhism and learn to deal