Jennifer Lawrence's comments regarding nude photos

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

[Anonymous]

The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

[Anonymous]

FruminousBandersnatch wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

+1

The (big) difference is that there is no longer any way to avoid having financial information online; I'm not aware of any financial institution that forswears computers entirely. So if you want to use the banking system in any way, you will be vulnerable to online hacking. And it's very hard, if not impossible, to live in the modern American economy without any access to banking: no mortgage, credit/debit cards, checking account, etc. It would be about as common, and about as practical, as trying to live off the electrical grid.

Whereas with nude selfies, it's pretty easy and obvious to avoid having this material online. I'm middle aged but I can't imagine any reasonable argument in favor of having nudie pics uploaded to the cloud. Frankly I don't see why anyone, particularly not a much photographed actress, needs nude pictures at all, but maybe I'm just old. Either way, no need whatsoever to put them online. And therefore infinitely more complicit in their eventual hacking and dissemination.

Ok, so take her storage off the net and how you do feel? Let's say she and a lover had used the Polaroid camera posted above, and all the pictures were in a safe in her house when her house was robbed. The thieves found the hard copy photos and posted them on the internet for all to see. Do you think that's a different scenario? She believed they were in a safe location because she trusted the security of that location in the same way we trust companies to keep our financial and medical information safe. It's not like she posted them on her FB page and then got upset when people looked at them. We don't look at JP Morgan or any disclosure of personal medical information and say, "Meh, that's what they deserve for using a company that stores data electronically. My doctor is safely in the 1950s and still uses paper files!"

I'm a guy, and Jennifer Lawrence is a beautiful and sexy woman, and if she were to willingly do a nude scene in a movie or a spread in Playboy I would happily enjoy it because that would be her choice to share. I have not gone looking for and do not want to see pictures stolen from her because the display is not by her choice.

There's so much in the media today about how women deal with objectifying looks, catcalls and harassing behavior just for the crime of being female and being in public that I'm astounded at the victim blaming on a site that has a majority female membership. Even though she is a celebrity, she now has to walk around wondering if every person she meets, every guy she interacts with, has seen her private, nude photos.

*stands and applauds* EXACTLY

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

Yeah. Me and 99.99% of the iPhone-using population. That still doesn't make it ok to steal my stuff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

Right on. I think there are a few pervs on this thread who did indeed look at the stolen nudes and don't like being told they are gross human beings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

Yeah. Me and 99.99% of the iPhone-using population. That still doesn't make it ok to steal my stuff.

Heres what you agreed to :
"APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO."
If you don't like the terms don't use the service.
I use an iphone and dont use their cloud service. I have a private cloud in my home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

Right on. I think there are a few pervs on this thread who did indeed look at the stolen nudes and don't like being told they are gross human beings.

I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

[Anonymous]

Here is what the terms of service says:

APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO.

That does not mean it is okay to hack into an account. Of course it is not. But it does happen, and people break into homes and steal stuff also. There are laws to punish the person that does this but it does not always get your "stuff" back, which sucks.

What people also need to know is that the administrators of the system have access to those pictures and can look at them anytime. That is legal and if you don't want your naked body viewed by somebody you don't know the iCloud is not the place to put them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

Yeah. Me and 99.99% of the iPhone-using population. That still doesn't make it ok to steal my stuff.

Heres what you agreed to :
"APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO."
If you don't like the terms don't use the service.
I use an iphone and dont use their cloud service. I have a private cloud in my home.

And here are the terms and conditions for using Citibank's online site:

IN NO EVENT WILL CITIGROUP BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION DIRECT OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOSSES OR EXPENSES ARISING IN CONNECTION WITH THIS SITE OR ANY LINKED SITE OR USE THEREOF OR INABILITY TO USE BY ANY PARTY, OR IN CONNECTION WITH ANY FAILURE OF PERFORMANCE, ERROR, OMISSION, INTERRUPTION, DEFECT, DELAY IN OPERATION OR TRANSMISSION, COMPUTER VIRUS OR LINE OR SYSTEM FAILURE, EVEN IF CITIGROUP, OR REPRESENTATIVES THEREOF, ARE ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES, LOSSES OR EXPENSES.

No difference -- it's no more ok to steal someone's photos than to steal their money.

And you better hope noone hacks your "private cloud," because assholes like you will say it's your fault for not keeping your cloud sufficiently secure.

[FruminousBandersnatch]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

Yeah. Me and 99.99% of the iPhone-using population. That still doesn't make it ok to steal my stuff.

Heres what you agreed to :
"APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO."
If you don't like the terms don't use the service.
I use an iphone and dont use their cloud service. I have a private cloud in my home.

Your bank doesn't represent or guarantee that they won't get robbed, either. Guess if you don't want to take that risk you should keep your money under your mattress. Like Apple and every other online service, they agree to use reasonable efforts to perform the services you've purchased, and they agree that they are liable if they commit gross negligence or willful misconduct.

Your private cloud is less of a target than iCloud because it's a lower value target and the return for hacking it is lower. But odds are it's less secure than most online services that have teams of security experts and who conduct penetration tests, etc., etc., just like your house is less secure than your bank, but also a less rewarding target.

And if you feel that confident about your configuration of your private cloud, you might want to take a look at this - http://www.kaspersky.com/about/news/virus/2014/hacking-a-living-room

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

Right on. I think there are a few pervs on this thread who did indeed look at the stolen nudes and don't like being told they are gross human beings.

I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are not holding women responsible for their own decisions. You are holding them responsible for the illegal and immoral actions of other people. Without some nasty asshole douchebag deciding to steal those pics, those pics stay private, as they should've, regardless of where she kept them, as long as she didn't publicly display them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The victim blaming on here is astounding and disgusting, and yet one more example of a culture that seeks to shame women for being sexual beings, while at the same time feeling entitled to their bodies at all times.

- She doesn't need to apologize or explain why she took nude photos.
- The fact she took nudes for someone else doesn't entitle you to view them. Knowing that they were stolen, if you CHOOSE to seek them out, you are complicit.
- She doesn't need to justify not being super tech savvy or unable to keep them out of the cloud. Or perhaps they were hacked from her phone or computer. It doesn't matter. They were stolen.
- By the logic presented here, anyone who utilizes online banking or any form of online credit transaction deserves to have their account information stolen, disseminates, and repeatedly reposted. It is your fault if you are victimized and you should no better.

Women have a right to their own sexualiity. They have a right to choose when and with whom they want to share it.

Fuck all you shamers and apologists. Seriously. Fuck you.

Right on. I think there are a few pervs on this thread who did indeed look at the stolen nudes and don't like being told they are gross human beings.

I don't like women not being responsible for their own decisions. Im a woman and thats how I see it.
You are stupid if you don't know by now that material on phones and in clouds can be hacked. She has responsibility for her actions in this matter, the Apple service agreement even warns about it.

You are not holding women responsible for their own decisions. You are holding them responsible for the illegal and immoral actions of other people. Without some nasty asshole douchebag deciding to steal those pics, those pics stay private, as they should've, regardless of where she kept them, as long as she didn't publicly display them.

Thats right, I do not police others moral values. I do not see any expectation of privacy within the cloud service. Wanting privacy just doesn't make it so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder--JP Morgan just had a bunch of information hacked, including client account information. If Lawrence had her account hacked, would people be blaming her for having an online account? Do people really think that we shouldn't expect any level of privacy online? That we have no right to complain when personal information of whatever sort is stolen?

And I agree with Lawrence--the people looking at the nude pictures aren't physically assaulting her, but they are complicit in a crime.

Yes, you have no privacy online, don't upload your nudes. If you have a higher level of security like a bank maybe you will fair better. Have you noticed the ads on DCUM utilize tracking.

Yeah, you're not making any sense. There is no difference here between having a private online photo account and having an online bank account.

Storing pics in a private account isn't the same as saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and look at my naked body" any more than having a JP Morgan account is saying "sure, entire world, go ahead and have some of my money." It's a sex crime, and the people viewing those pics are gross, disgusting asshats.

Clearly you did not read the terms of service reguard a cloud account with Apple Inc.

Yeah. Me and 99.99% of the iPhone-using population. That still doesn't make it ok to steal my stuff.

Heres what you agreed to :
"APPLE DOES NOT REPRESENT OR GUARANTEE THAT THE SERVICE WILL BE FREE FROM LOSS, CORRUPTION, ATTACK, VIRUSES, INTERFERENCE, HACKING, OR OTHER SECURITY INTRUSION, AND APPLE DISCLAIMS ANY LIABILITY RELATING THERETO."
If you don't like the terms don't use the service.
I use an iphone and dont use their cloud service. I have a private cloud in my home.

And here are the terms and conditions for using Citibank's online site:

IN NO EVENT WILL CITIGROUP BE LIABLE FOR ANY DAMAGES, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION DIRECT OR INDIRECT, SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES, LOSSES OR EXPENSES ARISING IN CONNECTION WITH THIS SITE OR ANY LINKED SITE OR USE THEREOF OR INABILITY TO USE BY ANY PARTY, OR IN CONNECTION WITH ANY FAILURE OF PERFORMANCE, ERROR, OMISSION, INTERRUPTION, DEFECT, DELAY IN OPERATION OR TRANSMISSION, COMPUTER VIRUS OR LINE OR SYSTEM FAILURE, EVEN IF CITIGROUP, OR REPRESENTATIVES THEREOF, ARE ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES, LOSSES OR EXPENSES.

No difference -- it's no more ok to steal someone's photos than to steal their money.

And you better hope noone hacks your "private cloud," because assholes like you will say it's your fault for not keeping your cloud sufficiently secure.

Maybe we can get FDIC to protect nude pictures.