Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

I bet they admired the Christians who managed to wipe out whole tribes all over the Americas.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not anti-Islam.

I just want Muslims to stay in their own countries and not come here. Nothing good comes of it when they do.

Silly and misguided.

Most Muslims who live here were born here. So they likely will stay in their country. The US.

Up to a third of the slaves were Muslim. They built this country that you enjoy.

Do you have a site for this? I have never read that before. I have heard several hundred but not A third. Where did you read that statistic?

It's in multiple places. Some say 10-15%. Some say 25-30% of African slaves were Muslim.

http://www.tolerance.org/publication/american-muslims-united-states

http://www.pbs.org/opb/historydetectives/feature/islam-in-america/

http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/afammuslims.htm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/five-myths-about-muslims-in-america/2011/03/30/AFePWOIC_story.html

http://nyupress.org/books/book-details.aspx?bookId=11900#.U-F0r_ldWLE

Ok, let me clarify it a bit. Niqab(face cover) is not a requirement in Islam , hijab (headscarf) is a requirement. In the Qur’an, the direct commandment for post-pubescent women to cover their hair and neck is i:

"Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is Aware of what they do. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters sons, or their women..."

You can also read the other verse about the same point, which is verse number 59 in Surah 33. It may be translated as:
{O Prophet! Tell thy wives and thy daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks close round them [when they go abroad]. That will be better, that so they may be recognized and not annoyed. Allah is ever Forgiving, Merciful.}

This indicates that one of the reasons for hijab is to distinguish the believing woman from the non-believing. This relates to your second question concerning the logic behind hijab.

It is true that men don’t have to cover their heads, but there is a dress code for them, as well. Men must at least be covered from the navel to the knees with loose fitting clothing. The rules for men are different because women are less likely to ogle men than the other way around. Men also shouldn't cut their beards.

the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also said:"These two [gold and silk] are forbidden for the males of my ummah and permissible for the females.” so Muslim Men can't wear silk or gold. So yeh the freeing of the ego is both for men & women but of course men and women will have a different dress code, just like in any normal society, a man covering his head would not do anything as far as modesty is concerned. Throughout history, in every society, honorable women did cover their head, for ex in Arabia, before Islam women of high lineage covered their heads, only servants woke around with bare heads . Besides following modest dress codes appropriate to the different natures of a man and woman, both Muslim men and women should abide by a certain modest and respectful code of conduct.

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Didn't Christians mass murder heretics by burning them at the stake?

No.

The Spanish Inquisition executed fewer than 4,000 people in 350 years. Hardly mass murder. Stalin, Mao, and other atheistic liberal heroes would regard 4,000 deaths in one day as evidence of insufficient revolutionary zeal on the part of their executioners.

Yeah, except the only heretics murdered weren't just put to death by the spanish inquisition. It happened all over Europe. Edward the viii used it as a pretext to divorce his wife; by heheading her for heresy.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not Muslim, but I have two close friends who are Muslim so I cringe when I hear anti-Islam hate speech. I suspect that it is born of ignorance and fear. I didn't hear as much before Gulf War I.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

I'm not Muslim, but having traveled to a Muslim country where I dressed in hijab and abaya, I can say that I was actually cooler than I would have been with the sun on exposed skin.

Then why aren't the men dressed like that too, so that they too can be so comfortable?

Devout Muslim men typically are covered. I actually find it odd that the men in the family you saw were so exposed. My childhood Muslim guy friend and his Dad would never have been without a t-shirt on the beach.

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Anonymous wrote:I just hink of our trip to Hawaii, sitting on a beach next to a muslim family. The husband and sons were enjoying the beach in their biard shorts. The wife and daughters were covered nearly head to toe in heavy black, long sleeves, heavy head scarf, sweltering in the July sun.

Sitting on a beach in the middle of paradise, those poor ladies looked sweaty and miserable. The guys looked like they were having a blast.

Hmmmm. The veiled Muslims I see at Ocean City go swimming. Now, is wouldn't want to do that fully veiled, but they seemed just fine. Maybe the women you saw don't know how to swim?

I used to think these pictures were a joke.

apparently not?