The Starving of Gaza

Anonymous
PP, facts are great. Just don't like Jeff's selective deleting of posts here.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.


The washington post article specifically states that there have been 67 Israeli deaths. Most of them soldiers. No one said anything about targetting soldiers. Nice try though dirtbag.
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Anonymous wrote:Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.


Talk about missing the point. Unbelievable! Where do I start? First, I never said Hamas "only" targets soldiers. I said that Hamas targets Israelis, as opposed to targeting "Jews" as some would apparently have it. When Hamas shoots an Israeli soldier, it doesn't first determine whether the soldier is a Jew or a Druze (or possibly a Muslim Beduin). It has only killed two Israelis with its rockets. One was an Arab.
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Gaza’s bakers can barely function after Israeli strikes destroyed the sole power plant and made cooking gas supplies inaccessible. Yet thousands of hungry people are still queuing at their door in hope of bread :

Gaza’s bomb-hit bakers struggle to feed starving refugees -


Under an unbearable sun, with drones and F16s hovering menacingly overhead, young men, women and small boys wait in a seemingly never-ending line at the two Tal Al Hawa Bakeries, in West Gaza City. Some men use pizza cartons to protect their heads from the sun.

“I have been waiting here half a day to get just one sack of bread,” says 26-year-old Mohammed Abu Shammalah.

He doesn’t only have to worry about keeping his 11 siblings alive amid the relentless Israeli air, naval and artillery strikes, but also how to bring home one of the most basic foods for any family - bread.

It is 6:30 PM, but he can’t go home empty-handed. “There is no food to eat at home, nothing” he says. Even vegetables are becoming expensive as farming land has also become inaccessible to farmers due to the constant bombing for more than 3 weeks.

Shammalah says the biggest problem for many is how the bombing of the electricity plant has forced most of Gaza’s bakeries to shut down. No power equals no fresh bread.

The United Nations Office for Humanitarian Affairs notes in a report published Thursday on food security in Gaza said: “The ongoing reduction of electricity supply will heavily impact the commercial activities, the milling capacity and the bakeries performance.”

The situation in Gaza is one of no supply to meet a huge demand. The owner of the bakery - Mohammed al-Jarwsha- is well aware of this as hundreds of anxious, hungry and hot customers wait outside his shop door.

Shammalah says that his mother might have been able to bake some bread, except that she has no electricity or cooking gas, like so many others in Gaza. Several suppliers of gas cylinders, in Gaza City, are not able to distribute what small supplies they have because of Israel’s present bombing and shelling.

Another factor contributing to the lack of gas is that most distributors are located in parts of eastern Gaza City which are presently inaccessible, following this week’s heavy Israeli bombardment.

Even the dough in his fridge has spoiled as it has no power. There is no doubt in his mind that this is collective punishment.

This is meant to make us - the people - hate Hamas and turn against it. But the result is the opposite, the people have become closer to Hamas,” he said, as ambulances nearby try to rush through the crowds waiting for bread, shouting at people to let them through.

The lines continue to grow outside in the streets, as more people arrive wanting to buy bread. The process is slow, as all automatic machines are not in use due to the outages of power......



See more at: http://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-s-bomb-hit-bakers-struggle-feed-starving-refugees-214803539#sthash.wNEqsuXW.dpuf


What's it like being Muslim? Well, it's hard to find a decent halal pizza place and occasionally there is a hashtag calling for your genocide...
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.


Talk about missing the point. Unbelievable! Where do I start? First, I never said Hamas "only" targets soldiers. I said that Hamas targets Israelis, as opposed to targeting "Jews" as some would apparently have it. When Hamas shoots an Israeli soldier, it doesn't first determine whether the soldier is a Jew or a Druze (or possibly a Muslim Beduin). It has only killed two Israelis with its rockets. One was an Arab.


This person isn't missing any point. Just trying to remove posts that don't agree with a pov.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:By your logic Jeff, what does the post at 20:29 have to do with the starvation of the residents of Gaza?


You are correct, but you will notice that post was in response to another post that was also off-topic, was in response... And, so on. I should have caught that whole divergence earlier but I didn't. For that, I apologize. But, I suspect that it was not those trying to bring attention to the starving in Gaza who drove it off-topic. As these things generally go, it's like this:

1) Something in Gaza is tragic;
2) Palestinians are terrorists;
3) No they aren't. Israelis are Nazis.

It's pretty hard to keep threads focused on the original topic. It probably works in reverse as well.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.


Talk about missing the point. Unbelievable! Where do I start? First, I never said Hamas "only" targets soldiers. I said that Hamas targets Israelis, as opposed to targeting "Jews" as some would apparently have it. When Hamas shoots an Israeli soldier, it doesn't first determine whether the soldier is a Jew or a Druze (or possibly a Muslim Beduin). It has only killed two Israelis with its rockets. One was an Arab.


I used to think you had some logic. Now? Not so much
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.


Talk about missing the point. Unbelievable! Where do I start? First, I never said Hamas "only" targets soldiers. I said that Hamas targets Israelis, as opposed to targeting "Jews" as some would apparently have it. When Hamas shoots an Israeli soldier, it doesn't first determine whether the soldier is a Jew or a Druze (or possibly a Muslim Beduin). It has only killed two Israelis with its rockets. One was an Arab.


This person isn't missing any point. Just trying to remove posts that don't agree with a pov.


What? Are you literate? What do either of the two quoted posts have to do with removing posts. As for the Olympics guy, keep it up and you will be banned. I normally don't give that many chances.
Anonymous
But Jeff you do appear to remove the posts that don't agree with your pro Palestinian view point. I am seeing some bias on your part here. That is fine as it is your site but just own up to it.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:But Jeff you do appear to remove the posts that don't agree with your pro Palestinian view point. I am seeing some bias on your part here. That is fine as it is your site but just own up to it.


If people wonder why I lose it occasionally, this post explains it. I removed a pro-Palestinian post at your request! So, how can you write what you just wrote? This forum is filled with anti-Palestinian crap. There are posts that say things about Palestinians that I would delete if they said the same thing about Jews.
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Anonymous wrote:Should I post photos of the decapitated Israeli 3 month old baby? His siblings and parents? How about the victims of suicide bombings? Or should we broaden out to some other terror groups and their victims, who also want to see All Jews killed? Maybe the British soldier hacked to death on the streets of London? I can go on and on. So many victims of Arab violence.


People who supported that violence and death will have to answer for their actions. Will you answer for the death and violence that you have supported?


There is no 'support' or 'not support'. There is only murder, or no murder. Your definition is different from mine. I am not the ultimate judge and jury, nor am I the cause.

Hamas's little book the IDF has seems to state Hamas deliberately uses their own civilians to 'set up' Israel. I do know that I'm not surprised. Logic told me this was the case.

Look at things rationally. It does help
Anonymous
I guess Hamas thought that the "starving" [nobody is starving, let's get real] people could eat terror tunnels and rockets?
Anonymous
Last comment on this Jeff. The post you removed, if I recall correctly, was a link with no commentary, in violation of your stated terms. You removed it for that reason alone. Other posts which you did not agree with were removed because you did not like the point of view. I am just calling em as I see em.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Should I post photos of the decapitated Israeli 3 month old baby? His siblings and parents? How about the victims of suicide bombings? Or should we broaden out to some other terror groups and their victims, who also want to see All Jews killed? Maybe the British soldier hacked to death on the streets of London? I can go on and on. So many victims of Arab violence.


People who supported that violence and death will have to answer for their actions. Will you answer for the death and violence that you have supported?


There is no 'support' or 'not support'. There is only murder, or no murder. Your definition is different from mine. I am not the ultimate judge and jury, nor am I the cause.

Hamas's little book the IDF has seems to state Hamas deliberately uses their own civilians to 'set up' Israel. I do know that I'm not surprised. Logic told me this was the case.

Look at things rationally. It does help


I think i am looking at things rationally. Germans who supported the third reich weren't culpable for the holocaust?
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