The Starving of Gaza

[jsteele]

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:07, well put.

Why can't the Pals in Gaza grow their own food? Build a country? Invest in agriculture or any industry? Do anything other than blame Israel, build rockets and dig tunnels for the purpose of killing Jews? Ahh - its just easier to hate the damn Jews and try to kill them all by lobbing rockets. Every. Single. Day. for 7 years.

They are trying to kill Israelis, not "Jews". If we blamed the occupation on Jews, you would call us anti-Semetic.

Can't say anything of value here, so one must resort to twisting?

I'm not twisting. I'm pointing out the facts. You are choosing words for maximum emotional impact. But, that is a dangerous game to play. You can't have it both ways where Jews and Israel are concerned. If you won't want Israel's actions to spread anti-Semitism, then you should contribute to the perception that they are the same thing.

For the other PP who can mind-read Palestinians to determine who they target, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers. Druze serve in the Israeli military. Hamas doesn't check their religion before attacking them. One of the Israeli civilians killed by rockets was an Arab.

You obviously have no idea how Israel restricts agriculture among the Palestinians. Just look at the West Bank where there Hamas is not in control and there is no blockade Israel tightly controls the water, providing more to settlements then to Palestinians. It restricts imports and exports. Access to land is restricted, with fields being completely cut off from villages. So, yes, Palestinians blame Israel. Correctly.

Apparently, access to concrete wasn't restricted. That didn't work out too well for Israel. Or, ultimately, Gaza, I guess.

Typical. The discussion was about agriculture. When it doesn't go your way you simply change the subject. I've always said DCUM could field a world class goalpost moving team. But, if you want to talk about cement, Israel blockaded it for six years until slightly easing the restrictions last year. Note, they eased the restrictions. They didn't remove them. So, your post is factually wrong. Cement was restricted. Ironically, Hamas used tunnels to smuggle cement that were used for tunnels.

Edit: just in case you need a source to support this:

http://www.npr.org/2013/10/03/228550973/israel-eases-restriction-on-building-materials-to-gaza-strip

Must have hit a nerve . . . .

Very ironic. One of the previously quoted posts says, "Can't say anything of value here, so one must resort to twisting?" You couldn't even be bothered to twist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have the Pals built anything since Israel gave them Gaza and walked out in 2007? One thing other than a terrorist infrastructure, despite millions from their benefactors in the rest of the Middle East and Iran? Please Muslima (or Khaled Meeshal), explain, or send me one of famous links to a Arab media source.

It didn't "give" them Gaza. Gaza was illegally seized.

"Pal"? I'm sure you object to slurs about Jews.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Some of those pics are from Syria asshole

This is a google search for images under "Gaza deaths 2014." Is my motive to use misattribution by google to deceive you? Moron.

Both the PP, but you do realize that there have been a lot of photos of Gaza that aren't ?

Yes. Feel free to point out the ones that aren't. However you don't seem at all fazed by the horror unfolding in gaza. Look again.

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1Y1YYEK_enUS513US515&biw=640&bih=176&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=kvXfU5DXEKvmsAS69oHQBA&q=gaza+deaths+2014&oq=gaza+deaths+2014&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3..41j0.2226.2226.0.5355.1.1.0.0.0.0.621.621.5-1.1.0....0...1c.1.51.mobile-gws-serp..0.1.621.6IflpExOeEk

I'm too busy looking at the ones of murdered Israelis. The fact there are so many of Muslims murdering others elsewhere though is telling

Pull your head out of your ass and look at what the government you support is doing.

August 4, 2014 -day 27 of operation protective edge
Palestinians killed: 1,700+
Palestinian children killed: 400+
Palestinian wounded: 9,000+
Source: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/1.608548

Israeli deaths: 67 mostly soldiers
Source: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/israeli-airstrike-kills-militant-leader-before-unilateral-cease-fire/2014/08/04/7979b66d-e990-4009-8735-19c24e9538c0_story.html

How will you answer to your God for supporting these atrocities?

[Anonymous]

Jeff, seriously, Hamas targets Israeli soldiers? is that what they are doing with their indiscriminate lobbing of rockets? Is that what their suicide bombers within Israel are gunning for? That is a ridiculous assertion. That is like saying that the Taliban and Al Queda only target US soldiers.

[Anonymous]

Jeff, is an uncommented on picture the same as posting an uncommented on link? Citizen's arrest! Enough of the pictures with no context.

[Anonymous]

Muslima wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:18:07, well put.

Why can't the Pals in Gaza grow their own food? Build a country? Invest in agriculture or any industry? Do anything other than blame Israel, build rockets and dig tunnels for the purpose of killing Jews? Ahh - its just easier to hate the damn Jews and try to kill them all by lobbing rockets. Every. Single. Day. for 7 years.

18:07 here. Thank you

Apparently, we are too practical for DCUM. . Imagine that!

Seriously, this is a real question? You obviously have an Internet connection, please use it & research the words "Blockade" & "Occupation".

You consistently post incorrect information.

[Anonymous]

Is your conscience that defective?

[Anonymous]

Should I post photos of the decapitated Israeli 3 month old baby? His siblings and parents? How about the victims of suicide bombings? Or should we broaden out to some other terror groups and their victims, who also want to see All Jews killed? Maybe the British soldier hacked to death on the streets of London? I can go on and on. So many victims of Arab violence.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff, is an uncommented on picture the same as posting an uncommented on link? Citizen's arrest! Enough of the pictures with no context.

Fair enough. I removed that post. I also removed the picture from the other one. I think people should have the choice of viewing graphic pictures. It shouldn't be forced upon them. So, unless you start a thread that clearly announces that the post contains graphic pictures, please don't do it. However, I may end up removing such a thread in any case, so probably better to avoid it.

Edit: Also, I'm sure that you are proud of the thirty-year old picture you found of the Olympics. It is irrelevant to this thread. I can find old pictures of Zionist terrorists. Neither sort of picture has anything to do with starving the people of Gaza.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is your conscience that defective?

A defective conscience is the pure emotion being shown here, devoid of logic. Some of you need a cause to feel important; you need victims to validate your existence.

The fascinating part is when it goes bad (and it always does), there are outcries of 'wow, what did I miss?'

So much is missed when one goes on pure emotion

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Should I post photos of the decapitated Israeli 3 month old baby? His siblings and parents? How about the victims of suicide bombings? Or should we broaden out to some other terror groups and their victims, who also want to see All Jews killed? Maybe the British soldier hacked to death on the streets of London? I can go on and on. So many victims of Arab violence.

People who supported that violence and death will have to answer for their actions. Will you answer for the death and violence that you have supported?

[Anonymous]

By your logic Jeff, what does the post at 20:29 have to do with the starvation of the residents of Gaza?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Is your conscience that defective?

A defective conscience is the pure emotion being shown here, devoid of logic. Some of you need a cause to feel important; you need victims to validate your existence.

The fascinating part is when it goes bad (and it always does), there are outcries of 'wow, what did I miss?'

So much is missed when one goes on pure emotion

That is a novel justification for not having a conscience. People with no conscience are psychopaths. Israeli psychopaths are no less monstruous than Arab psychopaths.

[Anonymous]

And Jeff, I would like to hear your response to my post at 21:22.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:By your logic Jeff, what does the post at 20:29 have to do with the starvation of the residents of Gaza?

Gotta finish your whitewash. Do facts bother you?