DC CAS scores to be released 7/31/14

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Anonymous wrote:The ten public charter schools whose students scored highest on DC CAS were (in order of overall proficiency):
1. St. Coletta Special Education PCS (87.9 percent)
2. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Middle (86.3 percent)
3. KIPP DC – College Preparatory PCS (83.2 percent)
4. BASIS DC PCS (82.9 percent)
5. DC Prep PCS – Benning Middle (81.1 percent)
6. KIPP DC – KEY Academy PCS (80.0 percent)
7. Washington Latin PCS – Middle School (77.9 percent)
8. Thurgood Marshall Academy PCS (77.1 percent)
9. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Elementary (75.4 percent)
10. Washington Yu Ying PCS (74.9 percent)



"Other" charter schools continue to trounce DCUM's HRCSs.



Latin, Basis and YY always get lots of DCUM love. And even DCUM acknowledges that KIPP and DC Prep do a great job.


Other charter schools that get "lots of DCUM love" are: LAMB, Stokes, Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Creative Minds, Two Rivers, E.L. Haynes and Cap City. Where are the high scores to back up the love?


Mundo Verde's students haven't reached testing age yet.


Thanks. What excuse do the other charters have? Especially LAMB and Stokes--they have been around for at least a decade. And LAMB was even illegally cherry-picking its waitlist--I guess that still didn't' help.


You do realize that LAMB has it written in to their charter that they will balance classes with certain percentage Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking children. Thus, they can leapfrog over numbers on the waitlist to reach the next Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking child as necessary.

Why so bitter? Did widdums not get a good lottery number? DCUM may love LAMB, MV, etc. but its not like the schools themselves don't have big egos.
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Anonymous wrote:The ten public charter schools whose students scored highest on DC CAS were (in order of overall proficiency):
1. St. Coletta Special Education PCS (87.9 percent)
2. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Middle (86.3 percent)
3. KIPP DC – College Preparatory PCS (83.2 percent)
4. BASIS DC PCS (82.9 percent)
5. DC Prep PCS – Benning Middle (81.1 percent)
6. KIPP DC – KEY Academy PCS (80.0 percent)
7. Washington Latin PCS – Middle School (77.9 percent)
8. Thurgood Marshall Academy PCS (77.1 percent)
9. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Elementary (75.4 percent)
10. Washington Yu Ying PCS (74.9 percent)



"Other" charter schools continue to trounce DCUM's HRCSs.


Latin, Basis and YY always get lots of DCUM love. And even DCUM acknowledges that KIPP and DC Prep do a great job.


Other charter schools that get "lots of DCUM love" are: LAMB, Stokes, Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Creative Minds, Two Rivers, E.L. Haynes and Cap City. Where are the high scores to back up the love?


You of course are aware that some of these schools don't yet have the date to provide. CM is only in year two - so only had one year of scores to provide. IT will only have the their second year of scores this year.

Perhaps before you insult a school - you get someone educated on how testing and charters work.


Thanks for the advice So now we're up to two schools that don't have testing data (MV and CM). Can you answer my question now regarding the others? Or do you have more excuses (i.e., someone was mean to the proctor, it rained on test day, the dog ate the test sheets, etc)?
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Anonymous wrote:Reading scores from black children went from 38.8 proficient in 2008 to 38.6 proficient in 2014.

Even with erase-to-the top that's shameful.

Kaya should be fired and Rhee indicted.


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Anonymous wrote:The ten public charter schools whose students scored highest on DC CAS were (in order of overall proficiency):
1. St. Coletta Special Education PCS (87.9 percent)
2. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Middle (86.3 percent)
3. KIPP DC – College Preparatory PCS (83.2 percent)
4. BASIS DC PCS (82.9 percent)
5. DC Prep PCS – Benning Middle (81.1 percent)
6. KIPP DC – KEY Academy PCS (80.0 percent)
7. Washington Latin PCS – Middle School (77.9 percent)
8. Thurgood Marshall Academy PCS (77.1 percent)
9. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Elementary (75.4 percent)
10. Washington Yu Ying PCS (74.9 percent)



"Other" charter schools continue to trounce DCUM's HRCSs.



Latin, Basis and YY always get lots of DCUM love. And even DCUM acknowledges that KIPP and DC Prep do a great job.


Other charter schools that get "lots of DCUM love" are: LAMB, Stokes, Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Creative Minds, Two Rivers, E.L. Haynes and Cap City. Where are the high scores to back up the love?


Mundo Verde's students haven't reached testing age yet.


Thanks. What excuse do the other charters have? Especially LAMB and Stokes--they have been around for at least a decade. And LAMB was even illegally cherry-picking its waitlist--I guess that still didn't' help.


You do realize that LAMB has it written in to their charter that they will balance classes with certain percentage Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking children. Thus, they can leapfrog over numbers on the waitlist to reach the next Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking child as necessary.

Why so bitter? Did widdums not get a good lottery number? DCUM may love LAMB, MV, etc. but its not like the schools themselves don't have big egos.


No, they can't. It doesn't matter what they have written into their charter, when the law is clear on this. That is illegal. That is why LAMB stopped having two lotteries and doesn't bother asking about Spanish dominance in the application.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ten public charter schools whose students scored highest on DC CAS were (in order of overall proficiency):
1. St. Coletta Special Education PCS (87.9 percent)
2. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Middle (86.3 percent)
3. KIPP DC – College Preparatory PCS (83.2 percent)
4. BASIS DC PCS (82.9 percent)
5. DC Prep PCS – Benning Middle (81.1 percent)
6. KIPP DC – KEY Academy PCS (80.0 percent)
7. Washington Latin PCS – Middle School (77.9 percent)
8. Thurgood Marshall Academy PCS (77.1 percent)
9. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Elementary (75.4 percent)
10. Washington Yu Ying PCS (74.9 percent)



"Other" charter schools continue to trounce DCUM's HRCSs.



Latin, Basis and YY always get lots of DCUM love. And even DCUM acknowledges that KIPP and DC Prep do a great job.


Other charter schools that get "lots of DCUM love" are: LAMB, Stokes, Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Creative Minds, Two Rivers, E.L. Haynes and Cap City. Where are the high scores to back up the love?


Mundo Verde's students haven't reached testing age yet.


Thanks. What excuse do the other charters have? Especially LAMB and Stokes--they have been around for at least a decade. And LAMB was even illegally cherry-picking its waitlist--I guess that still didn't' help.


You do realize that LAMB has it written in to their charter that they will balance classes with certain percentage Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking children. Thus, they can leapfrog over numbers on the waitlist to reach the next Spanish speaking and non-Spanish speaking child as necessary.

Why so bitter? Did widdums not get a good lottery number? DCUM may love LAMB, MV, etc. but its not like the schools themselves don't have big egos.


No, try again sunshine. No charter school in DC is allowed to pick students from its waitlist based on language. The school can write anything they want in its charter...the law is the law.

Not bitter at all. My child attends a JKLM school IB...so no worries about the lottery at all.
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Why don't you wait to see the actual data from the schools before getting all bent out of shape? Also, consider that LAMB and Stokes are also teaching their children in other languages, which might impact the time spent on English and math.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you wait to see the actual data from the schools before getting all bent out of shape? Also, consider that LAMB and Stokes are also teaching their children in other languages, which might impact the time spent on English and math.


Explain Yu Ying's scores.
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Anonymous wrote:Why don't you wait to see the actual data from the schools before getting all bent out of shape? Also, consider that LAMB and Stokes are also teaching their children in other languages, which might impact the time spent on English and math.


That's a poor excuse. What college is going to care that you are bilingual but functionally illiterate and innumerate?
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Anonymous wrote:It's important to note that the scores are spun from 2007 because the DC-CAS was relatively new (second year I think) and the scores had dipped.

While Rhee joined DCPS in 2007, students had already taken the 2007 test.

This is spin from DCPS and OSSE. The scores across time should be judged from 2008, the first year of "Rhee-form."

In other words, reading scores have remain largely stagnant for most of DCPS and math scores went up. However, when you think about the money, time, drama and cheating that's gone into the whole endeavor, it's pretty depressing.


However you wish to slice it, the scores have gone up. We all would have liked to have seen greater gains, but the movement is upward. I honestly don't understand why some people on this board are so intent on finding the negative. That too is spin.

Signed,
A DC Parent of three whose kids are getting a good education and who hopes that the upward trajectory continues.

PS- What happened to all the people who don't care about the testing and the numbers?


If you take a look at the demographic breakdown data for reading on slide 4 (http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/DC%20CAS%202014%20-%20DCPS%20Press%20Deck.pdf) you can see that for Male / Female scores there is almost no change from last year to this year. (Female scores went from 53.4 to 53.8; Males stayed the same at 41.7).

We can reasonably assume that no new gender composition changes have taken place in the last year in DCPS enrollment and that gender is the same across racial and economic dimensions (Blacks aren't having more or fewer males; high-SES families have boys and girls in the same proportion as low-SES families, etc.).

This makes it easy to identify that the touted reading score movement has come from changes in the demographics of the population with more higher scoring subgroups in the tested population than were there previously rather than improved teaching and learning across all students. The Math scores do show improvement for both male and female subgroups (much less than the 4 point increase, though) so there may be some improved math teaching/learning. Or it might just be more adjusting of the "cut scores" for proficiency.

Either way, there is lots of spin surrounding the scores.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why don't you wait to see the actual data from the schools before getting all bent out of shape? Also, consider that LAMB and Stokes are also teaching their children in other languages, which might impact the time spent on English and math.


That's a poor excuse. What college is going to care that you are bilingual but functionally illiterate and innumerate?


What's your point? Sounds like your point is, "Stop liking LAMB and Stokes, DCUM."

We got it.
Anonymous
^^ the point is that DCI will have a lot to manage.
Anonymous
Happy to hear about BASIS; my son still too young to attend but I'm glad there appears to be another strong middle school alternative.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ the point is that DCI will have a lot to manage.


I still refuse to make assumptions about implications for DCI until we see the actual numbers for feeder schools and the breakdown by years. All we know now is that only YY is in the top 10 for all charter schools.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It's important to note that the scores are spun from 2007 because the DC-CAS was relatively new (second year I think) and the scores had dipped.

While Rhee joined DCPS in 2007, students had already taken the 2007 test.

This is spin from DCPS and OSSE. The scores across time should be judged from 2008, the first year of "Rhee-form."

In other words, reading scores have remain largely stagnant for most of DCPS and math scores went up. However, when you think about the money, time, drama and cheating that's gone into the whole endeavor, it's pretty depressing.


However you wish to slice it, the scores have gone up. We all would have liked to have seen greater gains, but the movement is upward. I honestly don't understand why some people on this board are so intent on finding the negative. That too is spin.

Signed,
A DC Parent of three whose kids are getting a good education and who hopes that the upward trajectory continues.

PS- What happened to all the people who don't care about the testing and the numbers?


If you take a look at the demographic breakdown data for reading on slide 4 (http://dcps.dc.gov/DCPS/Files/DC%20CAS%202014%20-%20DCPS%20Press%20Deck.pdf) you can see that for Male / Female scores there is almost no change from last year to this year. (Female scores went from 53.4 to 53.8; Males stayed the same at 41.7).

We can reasonably assume that no new gender composition changes have taken place in the last year in DCPS enrollment and that gender is the same across racial and economic dimensions (Blacks aren't having more or fewer males; high-SES families have boys and girls in the same proportion as low-SES families, etc.).

This makes it easy to identify that the touted reading score movement has come from changes in the demographics of the population with more higher scoring subgroups in the tested population than were there previously rather than improved teaching and learning across all students. The Math scores do show improvement for both male and female subgroups (much less than the 4 point increase, though) so there may be some improved math teaching/learning. Or it might just be more adjusting of the "cut scores" for proficiency.

Either way, there is lots of spin surrounding the scores.


This. Basically, since 2007, none of of "output" has changed, only the inputs (an uptick in higher ses kids/decrease in lower ses kids). Depressing.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The ten public charter schools whose students scored highest on DC CAS were (in order of overall proficiency):
1. St. Coletta Special Education PCS (87.9 percent)
2. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Middle (86.3 percent)
3. KIPP DC – College Preparatory PCS (83.2 percent)
4. BASIS DC PCS (82.9 percent)
5. DC Prep PCS – Benning Middle (81.1 percent)
6. KIPP DC – KEY Academy PCS (80.0 percent)
7. Washington Latin PCS – Middle School (77.9 percent)
8. Thurgood Marshall Academy PCS (77.1 percent)
9. DC Prep PCS – Edgewood Elementary (75.4 percent)
10. Washington Yu Ying PCS (74.9 percent)



"Other" charter schools continue to trounce DCUM's HRCSs.


Latin, Basis and YY always get lots of DCUM love. And even DCUM acknowledges that KIPP and DC Prep do a great job.


Other charter schools that get "lots of DCUM love" are: LAMB, Stokes, Mundo Verde, Inspired Teaching, Creative Minds, Two Rivers, E.L. Haynes and Cap City. Where are the high scores to back up the love?


You of course are aware that some of these schools don't yet have the date to provide. CM is only in year two - so only had one year of scores to provide. IT will only have the their second year of scores this year.

Perhaps before you insult a school - you get someone educated on how testing and charters work.


Thanks for the advice So now we're up to two schools that don't have testing data (MV and CM). Can you answer my question now regarding the others? Or do you have more excuses (i.e., someone was mean to the proctor, it rained on test day, the dog ate the test sheets, etc)?


All we know at this point is that their scores were not in the top 10. Big whoop. Nothing much to say until the actual data is released. Who knows when that will be? Anyone?
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