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[Post New]04/04/2017 08:39
Anonymous
Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.
[Post New]04/04/2017 08:44
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best tips for upcoming U9 tryouts? What worked, what didn't for your son? So many parents telling their boys to score more, but I think the evaluaters could care less, and would rather see a roulette - no?




At U9 the kid should have:
Comfort with the ball
Athleticism
Intensity
And above all else, a great attitude.


Our CCL club:

Soccer skill 5%
Size/physical attributes 95%

More points if your child fouls or hurts someone.

If the kid knows to move to space and pass--they will not get noticed. They look for spastic kids that are ball chasers like golden retrievers.

Many parents tell their kids to forget the way they were taught and just be a ball hog and now everyone over.


This is a little over the top but not all that off base.

For larger clubs size, speed and aggression will be rewarded with a A team spot.
[Post New]04/04/2017 08:45
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


Went to both clubs and didn't make either did ya.
[Post New]04/04/2017 09:37
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.
[Post New]04/04/2017 09:54
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.



In others words, a rising U14 parent.

If you don't want the slot, give it up and go play somewhere else. You are just hurting the age group by acting like a pre- Madonna. Rosters cant be finalized because of people like you. To be honest, you sound like you are worried about your kid being on the best team vs the best training. I've seen teams put together that I thought were going to stink that ended up being really good AND teams put together that i thought were going to be good that ended up under performing.

You dont have a crystal ball. Get your foot in the door of the program you want. IMO, the training at Spirit will be good. The same if not better then the other DAs
[Post New]04/04/2017 10:27
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best tips for upcoming U9 tryouts? What worked, what didn't for your son? So many parents telling their boys to score more, but I think the evaluaters could care less, and would rather see a roulette - no?




At U9 the kid should have:
Comfort with the ball
Athleticism
Intensity
And above all else, a great attitude.


Our CCL club:

Soccer skill 5%
Size/physical attributes 95%

More points if your child fouls or hurts someone.

If the kid knows to move to space and pass--they will not get noticed. They look for spastic kids that are ball chasers like golden retrievers.

Many parents tell their kids to forget the way they were taught and just be a ball hog and now everyone over.


This is a little over the top but not all that off base.

For larger clubs size, speed and aggression will be rewarded with a A team spot.


I always wondered why this would be the case. Do coaches feel they could build the soccer skills on someone with natural athleticism? And this also give them the best opportunity to win?
[Post New]04/04/2017 10:29
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.



In others words, a rising U14 parent.

If you don't want the slot, give it up and go play somewhere else. You are just hurting the age group by acting like a pre- Madonna. Rosters cant be finalized because of people like you. To be honest, you sound like you are worried about your kid being on the best team vs the best training. I've seen teams put together that I thought were going to stink that ended up being really good AND teams put together that i thought were going to be good that ended up under performing.

You dont have a crystal ball. Get your foot in the door of the program you want. IMO, the training at Spirit will be good. The same if not better then the other DAs


You can't blame anyone for having hesitation about joining the spirit. I'm sure they will hire competent coaches - but if the player pool is weak the training will not be as good or better then the other DAs.

Long term, I believe that the spirit will be good - next year, who knows. The number of open slots per age group (a few posts above) would suggest that they have been happier with the U14 turnout than the other age groups- but is this poster suggesting that the slots per age group is assuming that all offers will be accepted (but haven't already)?
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:12
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Best tips for upcoming U9 tryouts? What worked, what didn't for your son? So many parents telling their boys to score more, but I think the evaluaters could care less, and would rather see a roulette - no?




At U9 the kid should have:
Comfort with the ball
Athleticism
Intensity
And above all else, a great attitude.


Our CCL club:

Soccer skill 5%
Size/physical attributes 95%

More points if your child fouls or hurts someone.

If the kid knows to move to space and pass--they will not get noticed. They look for spastic kids that are ball chasers like golden retrievers.

Many parents tell their kids to forget the way they were taught and just be a ball hog and now everyone over.


This is a little over the top but not all that off base.

For larger clubs size, speed and aggression will be rewarded with a A team spot.


I always wondered why this would be the case. Do coaches feel they could build the soccer skills on someone with natural athleticism? And this also give them the best opportunity to win?


With young kids coaches always believe that they can teach skills and soccer so they will error on the side of athleticism and favor the things that they cant coach, like size and speed.

The problem is, other than speed, size is difficult to project out, especially with boys. Even the birth-date can be misleading in regards to potential since a younger kid simply looks smaller. Several months difference at 8 years old looks very dramatic side by side in many cases and this is why the relative age affect is so important to understand and far to many coaches throw that out the window.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:27
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.



In others words, a rising U14 parent.

If you don't want the slot, give it up and go play somewhere else. You are just hurting the age group by acting like a pre- Madonna. Rosters cant be finalized because of people like you. To be honest, you sound like you are worried about your kid being on the best team vs the best training. I've seen teams put together that I thought were going to stink that ended up being really good AND teams put together that i thought were going to be good that ended up under performing.

You dont have a crystal ball. Get your foot in the door of the program you want. IMO, the training at Spirit will be good. The same if not better then the other DAs


You can't blame anyone for having hesitation about joining the spirit. I'm sure they will hire competent coaches - but if the player pool is weak the training will not be as good or better then the other DAs.

Long term, I believe that the spirit will be good - next year, who knows. The number of open slots per age group (a few posts above) would suggest that they have been happier with the U14 turnout than the other age groups- but is this poster suggesting that the slots per age group is assuming that all offers will be accepted (but haven't already)?


I believe that assessing or projecting how strong or weak the player pool may be is a difficult thing to ascertain if you are not a coach who has seen all of the players who have come to the tryouts. In many ways the way the Spirit have gone about the tryouts is actually better than how traditional tryouts are usually done. The assessment of the players is based on their scale and not relative to a baseline of "known" players. You can learn more about kids in seeing how they play with mostly strangers versus how teammates play together. Teammates have learned to trust one another and this can cover up flaws and can help kids look better because they are playing in a "system" that they are comfortable with versus being in an unknown environment and playing more naturally.

Talent will always shine through but it is exposed one way or the other when a kid is taken out of their comfort zone.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:30
Anonymous
^^ Thanks for feedback on U9 tryouts. Assuming I can't change size, speed, or strength, what message do I emphasize technically and tactically? Be selfish and show skilled possession and dribbling moves over passing and 1-2 play? Encourage aggressive tackling over moving to space for counter or cover (and letting closer defender pressure and tackle)? Shooting with power on an open goal from distance, or retaining possession longer to try to demonstrate skills and simply dribble through the cone goals?

I know it is only U9 and maybe nothing really matters, as what little I have seen is simply the same thing on top fields vs. bottom fields, except at the top fields everyone is bigger, older, faster. But if there was some advice to a player to stand out in some way based on what decisions they make with the ball, it would be helpful to know. I have heard parents say shoot and pass more, but wouldn't juking a bigger, stronger, defender with a piece of skill have more impact? TIA.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:30
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.



In others words, a rising U14 parent.

If you don't want the slot, give it up and go play somewhere else. You are just hurting the age group by acting like a pre- Madonna. Rosters cant be finalized because of people like you. To be honest, you sound like you are worried about your kid being on the best team vs the best training. I've seen teams put together that I thought were going to stink that ended up being really good AND teams put together that i thought were going to be good that ended up under performing.

You dont have a crystal ball. Get your foot in the door of the program you want. IMO, the training at Spirit will be good. The same if not better then the other DAs


There are so many things wrong with your post, and not just your spelling.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:36
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:^^ Thanks for feedback on U9 tryouts. Assuming I can't change size, speed, or strength, what message do I emphasize technically and tactically? Be selfish and show skilled possession and dribbling moves over passing and 1-2 play? Encourage aggressive tackling over moving to space for counter or cover (and letting closer defender pressure and tackle)? Shooting with power on an open goal from distance, or retaining possession longer to try to demonstrate skills and simply dribble through the cone goals?

I know it is only U9 and maybe nothing really matters, as what little I have seen is simply the same thing on top fields vs. bottom fields, except at the top fields everyone is bigger, older, faster. But if there was some advice to a player to stand out in some way based on what decisions they make with the ball, it would be helpful to know. I have heard parents say shoot and pass more, but wouldn't juking a bigger, stronger, defender with a piece of skill have more impact? TIA.


In all honesty, most of the advice is really for you to keep in perspective. What I would tell your kid is to simply go out and have fun. You might look into getting a little extra help before tryouts on some technical areas for nothing more than to build confidence in your child, but that is the key, confidence. If your kid is having fun and playing hard that is all that matters at this age so just have him/her go in with confidence. Just let your kid know that it is ok to show off some and to have fun.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:41
asksoccernova
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When new teams are being formed for U9:


For a boy: Needs a certain level of foot skills and 1v1 ability (relative to other players trying out of course) plus speed of some type (physical speed, speed of play, speed of decisions with the ball, or something). Having 1 other good skill (passing or shooting) is a bonus.

For a girl: Needs some level of foot skills and certain level of attention span, can tolerate physical play, speed is a bonus.

You don't need to over analyze this. At U10 it is much different, though when players have been put through a training curriculum for an entire year.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:42
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Spirit DA and VDA are going to be weak. The players they are bringing in are simply not at that level.


It's still too early to tell. My daughter has an open DA offer as does several other players we know. If they all accept, the DA team in her age group would have a solid core just with them. But the question is how many will accept.

I hope the DA will extend the deadline for accepting until they named the team coaches. It would make us a lot more comfortable about joining a new program if we knew who the coach is going to be.


Once one accepts then the rest fall in line. Presuming this is a Spirit offer it is more a decision now of whether or not your daughter wants to play in DA or not as all other teams are filled. There are no other DA options at this point. To me, that is your decision matrix at this point.
[Post New]04/04/2017 11:42
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

If you don't want the slot, give it up and go play somewhere else. You are just hurting the age group by acting like a pre- Madonna. Rosters cant be finalized because of ...


There are so many things wrong with your post, and not just your spelling.



Haha, yes, but you must agree that the use of pre-Madonna is a classic. I am still chuckling over that one.
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