Penn State Scandal parallel to Beauvoir Pedophile

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Much of what has been said here is complete nonsense. My daughter had him, although not that year. He was a terrific teacher. It isn't always clear what demons lurk beneath the surface. But he did a great job in the classroom, inspiring kids to learn and to think. You cannot delude yourself that you would have seen the signs. Evil doesn't come in neat packages, or wear identifying placards. Beyond the very real effects on the few boys involved, perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.



You are off your rocker.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.


WTF??


Someone should alert INTERPOL that we have found Eric Toth's current location (probably in Thailand). Only he could write such a thing. INTERPOL should pull this IP address, stat, and trace it.



Yes. Yes. Yes. How do we alert Jeff and Maria?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.


WTF??


Someone should alert INTERPOL that we have found Eric Toth's current location (probably in Thailand). Only he could write such a thing. INTERPOL should pull this IP address, stat, and trace it.



Yes. Yes. Yes. How do we alert Jeff and Maria?


I already saw the post. The IP address is local. INTERPOL wouldn't be interested.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Much of what has been said here is complete nonsense. My daughter had him, although not that year. He was a terrific teacher. It isn't always clear what demons lurk beneath the surface. But he did a great job in the classroom, inspiring kids to learn and to think. You cannot delude yourself that you would have seen the signs. Evil doesn't come in neat packages, or wear identifying placards. Beyond the very real effects on the few boys involved, perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.

:shock:
WTF??


Eric Toth sock pupetting, perhaps. Maybe the FBI should supoena DCUM IP addresses.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.


WTF??


Someone should alert INTERPOL that we have found Eric Toth's current location (probably in Thailand). Only he could write such a thing. INTERPOL should pull this IP address, stat, and trace it.



Yes. Yes. Yes. How do we alert Jeff and Maria?


I already saw the post. The IP address is local. INTERPOL wouldn't be interested.


I guess I'm not the only one thinking this. But, Jeff, isn't an IP address simply tied to a computer? Can't you take your lap top anywhere?
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
perhaps the biggest tragedy here is that he'll never teach another child.


WTF??


Someone should alert INTERPOL that we have found Eric Toth's current location (probably in Thailand). Only he could write such a thing. INTERPOL should pull this IP address, stat, and trace it.



Yes. Yes. Yes. How do we alert Jeff and Maria?


I already saw the post. The IP address is local. INTERPOL wouldn't be interested.


I guess I'm not the only one thinking this. But, Jeff, isn't an IP address simply tied to a computer? Can't you take your lap top anywhere?


No. IP addresses are not connected to a computer. IP addresses are assigned to networks. If you connect to Comcast, you get an address that is assigned to Comcast. If you disconnect your computer from Comcast and connect via wifi at Starbucks, you get an address that has been assigned to the Starbucks network (I believe Starbucks is actually using AT&T's network, but I could be wrong about that). The address in this thread that everyone is excited about is tied to a network in the DC area. The address has a posting history would not be expected of Eric Toth.

Anonymous
Please, people. Toth is not reading DCUM.
Anonymous
I would like to go back to the Beauvoir accountability subject. The head of school should have been fired after the investigation took place. But all that the school and its Board were worried about was how to protect themselves legally. The parents received several letters that were carefully crafted by lawyers, which never took into account the feelings of the families involved in this drama and showed no compassion. It was a very sad affair and the fact that so many families are desperate to get their kids into that school shows the country club mentality that is pervasive in the DC area. The Beauvoir Board failed miserably at making the school authorities accountable for this absolute failure to screen teachers and react to red flags. Fortunately, this will stay in their conscience and they will have to respond to God when their time comes. He will make justice to the victims and their families.
Anonymous
You are kidding yourself if you think Toth doesn't read DCurbanmoms. He was a well known poster back in the day and corresponded frequently with moms here.

His family even posted here before.

Of course wherever he is, he reads this, he reads America's Most Wanted (how he knew to leave Phoenix right before they knew he was there probably) and he is thinking he is so damn clever, faking his suicide and avoiding authorities.

Supposedly there were billboards advertising his picture in Spokane Wa and around there last spring.

So, Mr. Toth, if you are indeed reading this, hope you spend every second wondering who you can trust, who knows of your past, when authorities will find you...because you will be brought to justice.
Anonymous
The reason why we even know about the Eric Toth is because of Beauvoir's accountability. As soon as the camera was found he was escorted off campus by the Cathedral police. Then the police were called. No parents had made allegations over Mr. Toth. The school is the one who came forward - immediately.

It was a huge tragedy and hopefully Mr. Toth will be caught and tried in a court of law. The only difference in the way his case was handled vs. the Sidwell perv was that Toth didn't flee... Sidwell in fact didn't even in form the student body when the allegations were made - they waited several months. At the end of the day, both schools did the best they could. I hope these men burn in hell.
Anonymous
13:13. It's not just in athletics. Priests and teachers, too. My son had a teacher who asked for two years to go alone to the movies with him and invited him alone to his home on weekend. Fourth and fifth grade. DC public school. Shudder, shudder.
Anonymous
P.S. This teacher is no longer living in the DC area.
Anonymous
Fwiw, the division director to whom Toth reported directly was removed from that post (reassigned to a low-responsibility admin job) and then quietly disappeared. Also, Toth's contract had not be renewed for the next year, so he WAS being let go based on his weird behavior, before anyone knew what was really going on.
To the pp who thinks the co-teacher should have been fired, she was a just-out-of-college assistant, cut her some slack. Kind of akin to the graduate assistant who reported the assault at Penn State to Paterno (but not the police) and still has his job.
Anonymous
No you Beauvoir supporter that is NOT what happened. That is what the admin at Beauvoir wants you to believe. Or you may be the admin.

The cathedral police escorted him off the grounds on Monday (day before graduation). Unclear when he fled town but police were NOT called immediately and by the way Cathedral police are not the same thing.

Toth went to a house of a Beauvoir family where he often stayed and was able to pack his things. He was able to drive in his own car. No one was looking for him at this point. There was no APB and he was free to move around DC. He was able to contact a mother of a kid in the current class (at least one parent as he likely contacted others) and she met with him for 5-6 hours in a local coffee shop, until midnight or even later. He had been able to go to the bank and also run other errands. The mother who met him supposedly knew he was driving home to Indiana. Tuesday was graduation and kids and families were in the classroom (technically a crime scene!!) and messing it up etc. The school also cleaned the room. The admin had made up a story that he had a medical emergency in his family and that's why he was missing graduation -- very important to his current students as they were leaving Beauvoir and it is a big deal for the 3rd grade. The mother never told anyone anything differently.

On Wednesday other families received emails and phone calls. Still no story and no police questioning.

The mother who had spent time with him Monday believed he did nothing wrong at this point. On Wednesday several mothers believed, based on emails and phone calls, that he was suicidal, and tracked him down (he had that mothers cell phone as she had given it to him Monday night) to urge him not to kill himself. No one knew anything at this point, there were no police involved.

On Thursday night, the house of cards came down and by Friday (my timing may not be exactly right) a statement was issued by Beauvoir. One mother even tracked down his mother (who admitted he was a pedophile by the way and she was a shrink, another bizarre fact). That may have happened Friday or even on the weekend though I'm not sure. The press only picked it up then, but the Post was pretty slow to cover (they had a conflict of interest given they had someone who was on the Beauvoir board)

On Friday, the head of school contacted some of the families more directly connected. The head was reassuring and promised help. Nothing -- except that the school would pick up the tab for an initial visit to a shrink -- was ever really offered or ever materialized. FBI and police investigation of these directly affected families occurred later. There was a meeting of the class with the head the following week where they explained what they knew, and at that point some parents were still in denial.

I don't consider the school coming forward FIVE days later immediately. Not when it gave Toth more contact with students, their duty is to protect their students and by waiting until they could lawyer it up and have their pR firm and lawyers craft a statement for them was absolutely what happened.

Later that summer, many kids and parents were called to testify in front of a grand jury. Most kids went through a "safe harbor" organization which provides help for this and were questioned by an FBI expert who had experience questioning children. Parents were not present (nor could a lawyer be there). Toth was indicted based on the evidence presented in the grand jury, and he remains at large despite several sightings including living in a homeless shelter for a year in Arizona helping them to write grants.

Now that is not exactly true that no one made allegations. There was at least one parent who approached the school (about the summer camping trip) and they were told not to worry the school was addressing it. Also why was Toth told not to have his door closed. Not to have kids in his lap. There were suspicions IMHO. Yes this is a tricky area as you cannot accuse someone and ruin their life, but the school had a duty to protect the kids. They failed in that duty. Toth was at peoples houses, babysitting, tutoring all the time. The school had no policy about that and it gave him plenty of opportunity to be one on one with kids. Would you let a known alcoholic tend bar?

They had video of him coming and going from the school at odd hours. They should have known he was living at the school, that he compromised their records, that he even took phone records from the heads office.

Oh and Potomac School had hired him for the following year too.





Anonymous
PP, could you please tell us when exactly DC police were called, and by whom? Do you know the answer to that specific question? Was it the school administration who called? The cathedral police? Did Beauvoir at any time tell the police not to enter the classroom, or in any way make it difficult for them to do so? Was there no APB because the police had not yet been called, or because they had not yet acted in response to being informed of the incident. I think each of these pieces of information is critically important, and I would not attribute blame to anyone regarding response time without knowing the answers.
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