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Anonymous wrote:This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Pope Leo is not going to be as "liberal" as Francis, and most importantly, he's not going to be as intentionally divisive.

Not sure how or why anyone things Francis was divisive. You have to be a pretty rigid conservative to think that.

Pope Francis established many impediments to celebrating the traditional Latin mass. If Pope Leo removes those, he will be good with the vast majority of the more religiously conservative wing of Catholics who simply want the liturgy they prefer back.

IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS - what are you even talking about? The only people that could truly prefer that liturgy are in their 70's and 80's, and 90's. The rest have been brought along by these sticks in the mud.

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's the boomers brought up post-Vatican II who tend to be anti-traditional liturgy.

It's the younger people who are attracted to it. Pope Benedict XVI (pope from 2005 to 2013) loosened the strictures put in earlier on the Tridentine mass, exposing it to newer generations, who have become attached. Pope Francis re-instated the strictures and more, alienating this group.

Pope Leo will have the support of this group if the only thing he does is dial back the policy on the traditional mass to the days of Benedict.

I just looked up stats on this - about 4% of US Catholic churches offer the Tridentine mass. I get that you have found this thread and are now going to present a decidedly minoritarian practice that most US Catholics have never been exposed to or participated in as some kind of movement, but it's simply not true and is blatant propaganda.

I'm sure the white Christian nationalists will make great bedfellows until they aren't.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Pope Leo is not going to be as "liberal" as Francis, and most importantly, he's not going to be as intentionally divisive.

Not sure how or why anyone things Francis was divisive. You have to be a pretty rigid conservative to think that.

Pope Francis established many impediments to celebrating the traditional Latin mass. If Pope Leo removes those, he will be good with the vast majority of the more religiously conservative wing of Catholics who simply want the liturgy they prefer back.

IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS - what are you even talking about? The only people that could truly prefer that liturgy are in their 70's and 80's, and 90's. The rest have been brought along by these sticks in the mud.

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's the boomers brought up post-Vatican II who tend to be anti-traditional liturgy.

It's the younger people who are attracted to it. Pope Benedict XVI (pope from 2005 to 2013) loosened the strictures put in earlier on the Tridentine mass, exposing it to newer generations, who have become attached. Pope Francis re-instated the strictures and more, alienating this group.

Pope Leo will have the support of this group if the only thing he does is dial back the policy on the traditional mass to the days of Benedict.

I just looked up stats on this - about 4% of US Catholic churches offer the Tridentine mass. I get that you have found this thread and are now going to present a decidedly minoritarian practice that most US Catholics have never been exposed to or participated in as some kind of movement, but it's simply not true and is blatant propaganda.

I'm sure the white Christian nationalists will make great bedfellows until they aren't.

No one wants Mass in Latin. Please stop with this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Pope Leo is not going to be as "liberal" as Francis, and most importantly, he's not going to be as intentionally divisive.

Not sure how or why anyone things Francis was divisive. You have to be a pretty rigid conservative to think that.

Pope Francis established many impediments to celebrating the traditional Latin mass. If Pope Leo removes those, he will be good with the vast majority of the more religiously conservative wing of Catholics who simply want the liturgy they prefer back.

IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS - what are you even talking about? The only people that could truly prefer that liturgy are in their 70's and 80's, and 90's. The rest have been brought along by these sticks in the mud.

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's the boomers brought up post-Vatican II who tend to be anti-traditional liturgy.

It's the younger people who are attracted to it. Pope Benedict XVI (pope from 2005 to 2013) loosened the strictures put in earlier on the Tridentine mass, exposing it to newer generations, who have become attached. Pope Francis re-instated the strictures and more, alienating this group.

Pope Leo will have the support of this group if the only thing he does is dial back the policy on the traditional mass to the days of Benedict.

I just looked up stats on this - about 4% of US Catholic churches offer the Tridentine mass. I get that you have found this thread and are now going to present a decidedly minoritarian practice that most US Catholics have never been exposed to or participated in as some kind of movement, but it's simply not true and is blatant propaganda.

I'm sure the white Christian nationalists will make great bedfellows until they aren't.

No one wants Mass in Latin. Please stop with this.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. Pope Leo is not going to be as "liberal" as Francis, and most importantly, he's not going to be as intentionally divisive.

Not sure how or why anyone things Francis was divisive. You have to be a pretty rigid conservative to think that.

Pope Francis established many impediments to celebrating the traditional Latin mass. If Pope Leo removes those, he will be good with the vast majority of the more religiously conservative wing of Catholics who simply want the liturgy they prefer back.

IT'S BEEN 60 YEARS - what are you even talking about? The only people that could truly prefer that liturgy are in their 70's and 80's, and 90's. The rest have been brought along by these sticks in the mud.

Unbelievable.

Actually, it's the boomers brought up post-Vatican II who tend to be anti-traditional liturgy.

It's the younger people who are attracted to it. Pope Benedict XVI (pope from 2005 to 2013) loosened the strictures put in earlier on the Tridentine mass, exposing it to newer generations, who have become attached. Pope Francis re-instated the strictures and more, alienating this group.

Pope Leo will have the support of this group if the only thing he does is dial back the policy on the traditional mass to the days of Benedict.

I just looked up stats on this - about 4% of US Catholic churches offer the Tridentine mass. I get that you have found this thread and are now going to present a decidedly minoritarian practice that most US Catholics have never been exposed to or participated in as some kind of movement, but it's simply not true and is blatant propaganda.

I'm sure the white Christian nationalists will make great bedfellows until they aren't.

No one wants Mass in Latin. Please stop with this.

Why do you care if some Catholics want mass in Latin? (And yes, there are many all over the world who would rather have a Latin mass.)

The Syriac Catholic Church uses Syriac, a dialect of Aramaic Jesus spoke, in their liturgies even though the vernacular of the congregations is Arabic and Syriac has not been spoken for hundreds of years in most of the locations where the Syriac liturgy is used.

Should the Vatican force them to switch their liturgy to Arabic?