Hayfield Football Coach Fired

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.


Technically speaking, the group of young adult cheaters that are being lead by actual adult cheaters (coaches, parents and administrators), are adolescents. This is the age group between 12-18 years old. Medically, it’s also based on height, weight and the presence of body hair. Those in this age bracket can be held accountable as adults from a legal perspective.

So, there is an especially hot place for all those that continue to use the race card in a situation that does not warrant it. This is not a race issue. It is a right/wrong, ethical, moral and legal issue. Legal because they all committed fraud. When this deflection tactic is used, you are likely a narcissist. Any rational, healthy, honestly adult, regardless of color of skin can see this. Please step aside.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.

How’d they cheat?


If you have to ask that question, you've likely had your head in the sand for the past six months OR wouldn't understand the answer.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


Nope, we only root for non-cheating teams here in FCPS
Also, what about the 2023 Hayfield players that were summarily booted (or chased) off the team when Overton showed w/his crew from PWC ? Do you care about those children ? And I am some of those had to be black, given the makeup of the school.

None were booted. The kids that wanted to compete, stayed.


No, they were pretty much chased off. No intelligent person believes your lies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.


Technically speaking, the group of young adult cheaters that are being lead by actual adult cheaters (coaches, parents and administrators), are adolescents. This is the age group between 12-18 years old. Medically, it’s also based on height, weight and the presence of body hair. Those in this age bracket can be held accountable as adults from a legal perspective.

So, there is an especially hot place for all those that continue to use the race card in a situation that does not warrant it. This is not a race issue. It is a right/wrong, ethical, moral and legal issue. Legal because they all committed fraud. When this deflection tactic is used, you are likely a narcissist. Any rational, healthy, honestly adult, regardless of color of skin can see this. Please step aside.


They are too dense to even comprehend that they are the racist.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.


Yet again, all you can clutch to is false claims of racism because you don't have facts, logic or anything else to cling to. Also, medically speaking, almost none, if any, of those you are pretending to defend are children. The term "child" medically speaking is typically defined a person between birth and the start of puberty. Again, sit this one out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.

How’d they cheat?

How you so lazy? (Read the thread).

I see nothing but lies and rumors in the thread. Nothing concrete.

Just as the VHSL had nothing concrete. They probably expected to get a white supremacist judge in court that wasn’t going to look at real facts and conclusions of law. They wanted one of those judges that was just going to rule against the Blacks no matter what.

Anonymous
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.


Yet again, all you can clutch to is false claims of racism because you don't have facts, logic or anything else to cling to. Also, medically speaking, almost none, if any, of those you are pretending to defend are children. The term "child" medically speaking is typically defined a person between birth and the start of puberty. Again, sit this one out.

Black's Law Dictionary defines a child as a person under 18 years of age, but your probably right though since your probably white.
Anonymous
Reid and school boards mishandling of this from the beginning is reason this thread going to where it is now. They should be ashamed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.


OMG, you can't be serious. Shaking my head.
-signed a McLean parent
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.


OMG, you can't be serious. Shaking my head.
-signed a McLean parent

Right! Don’t know about Oakton, but McLean most certainly has that element, and Langley too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.

How’d they cheat?

How you so lazy? (Read the thread).

I see nothing but lies and rumors in the thread. Nothing concrete.

Just as the VHSL had nothing concrete. They probably expected to get a white supremacist judge in court that wasn’t going to look at real facts and conclusions of law. They wanted one of those judges that was just going to rule against the Blacks no matter what.



That you only looked at this thread, and not the solid investigative reporting done by the likes of Fairfax Times speaks volumes. Go home.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.


Yet again, all you can clutch to is false claims of racism because you don't have facts, logic or anything else to cling to. Also, medically speaking, almost none, if any, of those you are pretending to defend are children. The term "child" medically speaking is typically defined a person between birth and the start of puberty. Again, sit this one out.

Black's Law Dictionary defines a child as a person under 18 years of age, but your probably right though since your probably white.


Hey look, Hayfraud parents suddenly think they have their JD's.

Cite where Black's writes explicitly that a child is "a person under 18 years of age."

And if you were smart you would know why I asked the question.
FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.


OMG, you can't be serious. Shaking my head.
-signed a McLean parent


Nah, the OP's response seems pretty spot-on. Then again, McLean families who have kids who aren't bright enough to get into the likes of Visi, Madeira, Gonzaga etc. tend to respond in this manner.
Anonymous
FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.


A teenager is a child. Are you insane? And if an adult tells a child this is where you are going to school, what do you expect a child to do? I don't like this whole thing but blaming kids is where you lost me. Are you sick?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


Nope, we only root for non-cheating teams here in FCPS
Also, what about the 2023 Hayfield players that were summarily booted (or chased) off the team when Overton showed w/his crew from PWC ? Do you care about those children ? And I am some of those had to be black, given the makeup of the school.


Wait? The booted ones are children but not the same age existing ones?
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