Hayfield Football Coach Fired

FrankWinston
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Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.
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Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


Nope, we only root for non-cheating teams here in FCPS
Also, what about the 2023 Hayfield players that were summarily booted (or chased) off the team when Overton showed w/his crew from PWC ? Do you care about those children ? And I am some of those had to be black, given the makeup of the school.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.

BS. My kid has friends at Langley and I’m familiar with the Langley football roster. All of those kids don’t live within the zoning boundaries and some left private school to play football at Langley.

Langley has even had far worse off field scandals due to the actions of the head football coach and a teacher this year.

Langley has white kids and white coaches so there is no outrage and not even much mention.


They don't have to live within the school zone if they have a valid transfer from FCPS (usually for academic reasons).
Kids are allowed to transfer from privates to their zoned publics for any reason other than sports. I guess these kids and parents were smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

There was no scrutiny or allegations for them to respond to either.


Likely because they didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, white coaches and white players and their families don’t cheat or do anything wrong.


Blah blah blah.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.

BS. My kid has friends at Langley and I’m familiar with the Langley football roster. All of those kids don’t live within the zoning boundaries and some left private school to play football at Langley.

Langley has even had far worse off field scandals due to the actions of the head football coach and a teacher this year.

Langley has white kids and white coaches so there is no outrage and not even much mention.


They don't have to live within the school zone if they have a valid transfer from FCPS (usually for academic reasons).
Kids are allowed to transfer from privates to their zoned publics for any reason other than sports. I guess these kids and parents were smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

There was no scrutiny or allegations for them to respond to either.


Likely because they didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, white coaches and white players and their families don’t cheat or do anything wrong.


Blah blah blah.
We are talking about 20+ players, Bozo. No one has ever done that before. It’s completely outlandish, which so many people are pissed about this.
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Anonymous wrote:Genuine question. How come schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley do not have this football cheating issue?


Good question. I think it starts with the adults. Parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley have different priorities, it appears, than their "peers" at Hayfield. For example, parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley seem to deprioritize things like illegal recruiting and winning at all costs and instead prioritize things like teaching the kids under their purview important life lessons. It also seems that parents, coaches, administrators at schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't feel the need to live vicariously through their children, whereas parents at Hayfield do. So, because of this, at the end of the day, schools like Oakton, McLean, and Langley don't end up cheating at football.

I am guessing that wasn't the answer you were looking for as you picked three very specific schools that might look demographically similar in nature and you were again trying to play the race card, but my answer is correct. Take the L.

BS. My kid has friends at Langley and I’m familiar with the Langley football roster. All of those kids don’t live within the zoning boundaries and some left private school to play football at Langley.

Langley has even had far worse off field scandals due to the actions of the head football coach and a teacher this year.

Langley has white kids and white coaches so there is no outrage and not even much mention.


They don't have to live within the school zone if they have a valid transfer from FCPS (usually for academic reasons).
Kids are allowed to transfer from privates to their zoned publics for any reason other than sports. I guess these kids and parents were smart enough to keep their mouths shut.

There was no scrutiny or allegations for them to respond to either.


Likely because they didn't do anything wrong.

Yeah, white coaches and white players and their families don’t cheat or do anything wrong.

Or is it that you only root for white teams?
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Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


Nope, we only root for non-cheating teams here in FCPS
Also, what about the 2023 Hayfield players that were summarily booted (or chased) off the team when Overton showed w/his crew from PWC ? Do you care about those children ? And I am some of those had to be black, given the makeup of the school.

None were booted. The kids that wanted to compete, stayed.
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FrankWinston wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Next to Madison, Hayfield has the best chance to win the championship of any FCPS this season. Can we get rid of the hate for the next month so the kids can focus on football. These are children we are talking about.


So to you, high school football is more important than finding out the truth, seeing if laws were broken etc. Yikes.

Also, these aren't children we are talking about, most are in their late teens. Don't try and make them more sympathetic figures by framing them in the same lens as a ten year old. Also, most of us are talking about the adults who got the "children" as you call them to lie and possibly break the law and not the "children" themselves, many of whom had to know they were violating rules at a minimum.

Anyone under 18 is still a child. These are kids persuing special interests, growing, and navigating through life.

There is a hot special place for every one of the white supremacists targeting this children and interfering with the Hayfield season because of the color of their skin and their coaches skin.
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No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.
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Anonymous wrote:No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.

How’d they cheat?
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There is more bickering on this forum than on the underground fairfax football thread that has become a civil discussion among football parents ever since the injunction.
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Anonymous wrote:No one is rooting for Hayfraud. They shouldn’t even be able to play because of their VHSL violations. No one likes a cheater.

How’d they cheat?

How you so lazy? (Read the thread).
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Anonymous wrote:That letter is wildly inaccurate. Did she post it online anywhere with open comments?

And why did she only talk to Hayfield stakeholders? ALL FCPS students, teachers, and parents have a stake in this cheating scandal.


it is also on her FB page: https://www.facebook.com/Marcia.FCPS.Franconia


This letter is nuts:

"We recognize that while FCPS has abided by current policies and practices, including those administered by the Virginia High School League (VHSL), these policies and practices must be reviewed and updated to reflect the current reality of high school athletics."

In other words, not only does FCPS see nothing wrong with its investigations, FCPS is actually seeking to change the VHSL rules to allow for what Overton and Hayfield did—"the current reality of high school athletics." I somehow doubt the average FCPS student, teacher, or parent wants to encourage transferring—including out-of-district (and probably nonresident) transferring—for high school sports.
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Whoever this lawyer was that did the residency investigation needs to be fired. There’s no way in hell that over 15 kids transferred from Prince William County to the same school and had no residency issues. There were also kids inside FCPS that were inbounds for non-Hayfield schools and told how to register so that they could attend Hayfield.

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Also why can’t the public see this report? Why does FCPS always tout its investigations but never release reports?
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Anonymous wrote:There is more bickering on this forum than on the underground fairfax football thread that has become a civil discussion among football parents ever since the injunction.


Because we are FCPS parents that care about integrity way more than football.
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