Anonymous wrote:Stone Bridge recruited. (But, but, no, the best players and their families are attracted to a top-notch winning program.)

Madison baseball recruits. (But, but, no, the best players and their families are attracted to a top-notch winning program. They pupil-place into Latin, rent homes for four years, participate in pay-to-play camps, practice in off-season not as a team but as a travel club.)

Who are we fooling?

Hayfield proselytizes. (May the mighty Lord inflict flames of vengeance upon Hayfield nation!)

Anonymous wrote:Defector article was a well written summary of the situation

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we do know is that this season’s results will have an “asterisk” by it. And the Hayfield name is “stained”, even outside sports b/c the team represents the school, and the admin is in full support.

Ok. *shrug*

And this is the real problem in all of this...the "adults" at Hayfield just don't care about what has gone down, they just care about living out their lives through their kids' performance on a field because they've never accomplished anything of consequence on their own. What terrible examples they are setting for the kids at the school. Clearly it is a generational issue...the adults were raised wrong and now they're raising their kids wrong, teaching them it is ok to cheat, break the rules etc. It is really sad.

Mr. Winston

Who are you to judge another person’s character. What vested interest do you have in all of this? Comes off very judgmental wouldn’t you say?

Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we do know is that this season’s results will have an “asterisk” by it. And the Hayfield name is “stained”, even outside sports b/c the team represents the school, and the admin is in full support.

Ok. *shrug*

And this is the real problem in all of this...the "adults" at Hayfield just don't care about what has gone down, they just care about living out their lives through their kids' performance on a field because they've never accomplished anything of consequence on their own. What terrible examples they are setting for the kids at the school. Clearly it is a generational issue...the adults were raised wrong and now they're raising their kids wrong, teaching them it is ok to cheat, break the rules etc. It is really sad.

Mr. Winston

Who are you to judge another person’s character. What vested interest do you have in all of this? Comes off very judgmental wouldn’t you say?

DP. The Defender article was pretty judgmental. Hayfield is indefensible.

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.

I would hope this was written by a child, but based on the other comments by the Hayfield boosters on this site, it most certainly is one of the adult parents/coaches/supporters of Overton. It really is sad but it proves my previous comment correct. The Hayfield parents will sidestep the credible accusations of cheating and breaking the law because to them, winning at high school football is more important than doing what is right. I really do feel for the kids on the team, it appears they have zero decent adult role models surrounding them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.

If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.

Massaponax is 1-9. They are in the playoffs. Depends on your division.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://defector.com/how-an-imported-state-champion-blew-up-virginia-high-school-football?giftLink=343031eee2f3a4b0fa7e9878b1f82811

Have had people from out of state asking about this now, based on this article.

If this ain’t the most biased article. Point blank Aziz sucked as a coach , his pass happy teams were mediocre at best, while at Falls Church yes he was able to beat some schools that were worse but never a good win vs ANY measurable other team.
If he was sooooo good he could be hired as an assistant somewhere, perhaps he forgot he’s a county employee who teaches kids first and coaches second. So him saying he fears for his job is asanine, and just because you coached at one school doesn’t mean your automatically gifted another job elsewhere.

I wish this man could sue for some of the slander he’s had to endure. But I’m also sure he feels grateful n has gratitude towards FCPS for having his back. Remember he’s a first year county employee from another county, they don’t owe that man nothing.

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.

I would hope this was written by a child, but based on the other comments by the Hayfield boosters on this site, it most certainly is one of the adult parents/coaches/supporters of Overton. It really is sad but it proves my previous comment correct. The Hayfield parents will sidestep the credible accusations of cheating and breaking the law because to them, winning at high school football is more important than doing what is right. I really do feel for the kids on the team, it appears they have zero decent adult role models surrounding them.

Your own words sir, accusations

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we do know is that this season’s results will have an “asterisk” by it. And the Hayfield name is “stained”, even outside sports b/c the team represents the school, and the admin is in full support.

Ok. *shrug*

And this is the real problem in all of this...the "adults" at Hayfield just don't care about what has gone down, they just care about living out their lives through their kids' performance on a field because they've never accomplished anything of consequence on their own. What terrible examples they are setting for the kids at the school. Clearly it is a generational issue...the adults were raised wrong and now they're raising their kids wrong, teaching them it is ok to cheat, break the rules etc. It is really sad.

Mr. Winston

Who are you to judge another person’s character. What vested interest do you have in all of this? Comes off very judgmental wouldn’t you say?

DP. The Defender article was pretty judgmental. Hayfield is indefensible.

I don't think it was judgmental. I think it laid out the facts of the case clearly, which, as you noted, makes Hayfield, their supporters, and the folks who let this all happen (including parents, adminsitrators and the school board) indefensible.

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What we do know is that this season’s results will have an “asterisk” by it. And the Hayfield name is “stained”, even outside sports b/c the team represents the school, and the admin is in full support.

Ok. *shrug*

And this is the real problem in all of this...the "adults" at Hayfield just don't care about what has gone down, they just care about living out their lives through their kids' performance on a field because they've never accomplished anything of consequence on their own. What terrible examples they are setting for the kids at the school. Clearly it is a generational issue...the adults were raised wrong and now they're raising their kids wrong, teaching them it is ok to cheat, break the rules etc. It is really sad.

Mr. Winston

Who are you to judge another person’s character. What vested interest do you have in all of this? Comes off very judgmental wouldn’t you say?

DP. The Defender article was pretty judgmental. Hayfield is indefensible.

I don't think it was judgmental. I think it laid out the facts of the case clearly, which, as you noted, makes Hayfield, their supporters, and the folks who let this all happen (including parents, adminsitrators and the school board) indefensible.

Of course you do Frank, of course you do. Isn’t it past your nap time or something. Does your son coach one of these teams? Your disdain for the program is evident, would you care to just keep mudslinging. Your views don’t make you nomore right than my views on the situation

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

FrankWinston wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. Narrow the number of playoff participants. A 3-7 team should not even sniff the playoffs.

2. If you're scared, forfeit.

3. Powerhouse teams come and go. Nobody wet their pants before.

4. Ballers ball. Whiners whine.

5. Winners win. Losers retreat.

I would hope this was written by a child, but based on the other comments by the Hayfield boosters on this site, it most certainly is one of the adult parents/coaches/supporters of Overton. It really is sad but it proves my previous comment correct. The Hayfield parents will sidestep the credible accusations of cheating and breaking the law because to them, winning at high school football is more important than doing what is right. I really do feel for the kids on the team, it appears they have zero decent adult role models surrounding them.

Your own words sir, accusations

That is one word, not "words." It is sad you need that explained to you. Sad, but unsurprising.

The actual words (as in more than one word) were "credible accusations."

Oh, and yet again, you prove my previous comment correct. These Hayfield kids have zero decent adult role models surrounding them. It really is a shame.