Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Jen got PLAYED.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's the comment from Larry King, just in case it gets scrubbed from fb.

Looking pretty hot there oldest daughter of mine. I’ll be right along to give Dad’s final “check of worthiness and final approval” for whoever comes calling. Oh, wait! You’re not in high school anymore and way through with the college days, too.

Well here’s the long and short of it. Dad’s everywhere are a united front when it comes to protecting their daughters. None of those would be suitors measure up in a father’s eyes. Mom and I are ready for you to come home so we can watch over you, as we always do and is our way for your two sisters, too. The Drew Boy fends well for himself.

Wtf is her dad mentally unwell? Isn’t her sister Courtney married for a long time? Guess Zac or whatever his name is isn’t good enough. So misogynistic and disrespectful. Girls need protecting and the boy is fine. Gross.

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Facebook  status update, LindaAndDennisSchmitz

Had a blast with Freida and Jim on our Babylon River Cruise. I'll share more pictures once we get back home to Snerkenburg but there's a reason people our age love these river cruises - they are the best. (This is Linda by the way but I'm sure you already knew since everyone we know knows Dennis doesn't know how to use the smartphone   and only logs into the Facebook from the desktop machine - ha!)

For those of you asking about who the blonde gal in so many of our pictures is, she's a writer named Jane from Texas, although I'm pretty sure she's a Democrat, which is surprising because everyone we know from Texas swings in the other direction.   We don't judge, you know me and Dennis just love meeting all kinds of people. 

She's a "featured storyteller" on our cruise. I'm not sure what exactly that means but I think she writes some kind of self-help books for divorcees. Every time we turned around, these little gals in flowered dresses were pulling us into these storyteller events in the lounge with Jane or waving us over to line up for pictures with a bunch of folks wearing matching t-shirts. Not really sure what all the fuss was about but the drinks were flowing so it was A-OK with us.  You know Dennis - ha!

We're following her now on the Facebook and on the Instagrams - one of her sweet little friends helped me put that on my phone, it's the pink square one with the pictures that all the kids use. Look at us!  If you follow Jane on Facebook you can see Dennis in the background in one of her pictures- he's never shy about a free cocktail - ha! It's that picture with her in the dress with the feathers - Lordamercy what these girls in public wear nowadays. Mama would have said that outfit was only appropriate for a lady of the night but times have sure changed!

Also, I am also following a tee-shirt business guy - and can I just say hoo boy some of the things people are wearing nowadays I just do not get that whole bandana on the head style unless you're riding a Harley - if any of you like those word shirts with catchy sayings. There's a whole line about shirts for cat owners that seem real cute if you like that sort of thing.

Pretty girl but that bleach blonde look doesn't do her any favors - remember when all of us gals used Sun In that summer up at Lake Flippensramble? Reminds me of that - ha! 

Shirleen, I told Jane about your Airbnb up in Drooble Harbor and she seemed real interested and said she was going to have her team call you. I'm not sure exactly what that means - maybe she's talking about a church league softball team or something like that, so I'm not sure if your place is big enough. Nice enough girls but they sure take a lot of those selfies. If they come up to Drooble Harbor, we can have them over to the Lutheran Church, wouldn't that be something? Pretty sure she's not Lutheran but you know us, everyone is always welcome when we break out the coffeecake. 

LOL (Lots of Love) 
xo Linda

Comments:

ShirleenAndFredLivergood - TY friend! The Drooble Harbor house might be too small but tell her we have a bigger place over on the other side of Lake Flippensramble that would be great for a women's softball team. 

Karen McBiskie - A women's softball team @ShirleenAndFredLivergood ? You realize what that means, right?

Natalie Livergood Wilson LMAO Mom I love you           

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice her dad's post on the black feather dress picture? What is that about? It sounds like a breakup to me.

Yes that was a strange comment.

What was it?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice her dad's post on the black feather dress picture? What is that about? It sounds like a breakup to me.

Yes that was a strange comment.

What was it?

It's two comments above yours. Sounds like a "we're sorry you're going through a breakup" comment and is basically an insult to any guy Jen and her sisters have ever taken up with. If I was Zac, Courtney's husband, I'd be really hurt by that comment.

[Anonymous]

I want to order a Drooble Harbor sweatshirt.

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Anonymous wrote:THOUGHTS FROM ANOTHER ADOPTIVE MOM re Jen & Remy:

I have gone back and forth on whether or not Jen is a narcissist or just has narcissistic traits and I am leaning more towards the full on NPD camp solely because of how she treats Remy and this is why:

I also adopted a kid from Ethiopia so I know a ton of other adoptive parents both online and IRL, most great/normal, but a couple awful, so I have a bit of insight into adoptive parenting.

1. It’s obvious that Jen never attached to Remy, which was exacerbated by the possibility that Remy is on the ASD. Therefore she truly does see Remy as just a roommate, not her child. If attachment is not natural then achieving it in an older child is a MAJOR time commitment which probably requires professional help. If the child is struggling to attach, you need to literally rewire their brain. If the parent is struggling to attach, they may need intervention or not (there are lots of resources available) but you have to be 100% committed.

For instance, when my kid came home, she was with me 24/7. If not me, then my husband. I would NEVER go out of town for several days. Literally unthinkable. Would you leave your 3 day old baby for a week? Same thing. All adopted kids will have abandonment issues plus coming to an entirely different culture is so confusing and overwhelming and overstimulating. Adoptive parents are even told to avoid loud noises or bright lights (some families who adopt around the holidays forgo Christmas trees - I think that’s a bit much but I appreciate the intention) because their little brains are on such total overload when they get home. You “cocoon”: don’t leave the house for at least a couple of weeks, and no one outside family is allowed in. You’re literally teaching the child what a family IS. Homeschooling is an option and may be a necessity, but regardless, you definitely delay school for days or weeks. In a nutshell, you seek to recreate the womb/newborn days of protection from the outside world as much as humanly possible. It’s very intense but no different than taking maternity leave for a newborn. Do we do that for the mom or for the baby? For the BABY. New babies need their mommies. New adopted kids, whether 2 or 5 or 15 need their mommies too.

I know for a fact that Jen did none of this. She traveled for speaking gigs and she had those kids in school, like, immediately. I remember that because I was shocked. Imo she did not attach to Remy, and she has only herself to blame. And she knew she was supposed to do all these things. ANC had lots of families who had adopted who did it right. Plus the adoption agency tells you all this. Our agency required us to go to a 2-day seminar just on attachment because the knowledge is SO vital for successful adoptions. She knew. She could have done it. She blew it off. She chose to ignore the experts. She knew better.

2. There is a problem with some people adopting because my gosh, I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told “wow you guys are so amazing” for adopting our kid. It makes me SQUIRM. I hate it! ugh! I’m not amazing, this is just a choice we made on how to grow our family. I just hate the thought of kids in orphanages and this is how we responded. That’s it. But, I remember after we brought her home thinking, after being told how awesome I was for the umpteenth time, that wow, I could *really* let this go to my head. Like, this is exactly how it happens. Or if I had seen other moms get that praise after adopting, I could go “wow if I adopt everyone will tell me what an amazing mom I am! And whoa!! Bonus points for a black kid!!!” Like people who fake cancer for attention, kwim? So so gross. But … it happens. I’ve only seen it very rarely. The adoption process is such a long, expensive, paperwork pain in the ass that it naturally weeds out most of those people. You have to really want a child to stick it out. But I have seen it happen. Just like it happens with narcissistic women who keep having children for attention that pregnancy and babies bring, but on steroids.

3. And to me, this is the clincher: the problem with narcissistic mothers is that once their babies get past the mommy-is-perfect stage and start asserting their own independence and have their own opinions, the narcissistic mother is infuriated. How dare they defy me? How UNGRATEFUL for all my SACRIFICES! Okay - so now imagine the narcissistic mom if the kid is adopted? I can see it so easily- “I spent THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS for you! I went to AFRICA to get you! And this is the thanks I get??”

I knew a mom on Facebook who had adopted lots of kids (child hoarding) who also had a rebellious teenage daughter from Ethiopia. Every time she would post one of this poor girl’s acting-out in detail in a Facebook it would make my blood boil. But then the comments she would get - “oh you’re so wonderful! You don’t deserve this!” “You’re an amazing mom! Keep up the good work!” Like, lots of them. Which is why exactly why she did it!! And I think this is exactly why Jen does it too.
And I think it’s freaking unforgivable.

Just found this thread and I know these people IRL. Jen pawned Remy off to other ANC families and people in her circle when she was way too vulnerable to be able to process it. It's so sad. Remy is a lovely girl. I don't think she's on the spectrum, as others have said. She's scrappy and has definitely had to fend for herself but her dad does a pretty good job and she's got a good relationship with most of her sibs. What a sad farce of a family to have to grow up in.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone notice her dad's post on the black feather dress picture? What is that about? It sounds like a breakup to me.

Yes that was a strange comment.

The wording is awkward and weird, even apart from the content.

[Anonymous]

The whole tshirt knotted to show a sliver of mid drift is so try hard for a 50yo. The graphic tees. All while discussing “chic” shoes that are orthopedic foam. This woman is such an American cliche

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I thought the ugly old lady shoes reel wasn't terrible until she did those "modely" pivots at the end. At least take your phone out of your back pocket, beloved.

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Do you guys remember that old SNL skit with Molly Shannon, where she kept kicking her leg up and yelling, “I’M FIFTY! FIFTY YEARS OLD!”?
That’s Jen now. Only unironically, and not funny.

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The way she seems to not want to dress nicely and look stylish seems almost immature to me (and no, Jen - the st. Pauli girl outfit you wore on your bday is not stylish. On anyone). She should literally look to Joanna Gaines for inspiration as she is always well put together. Jen looks like a 50 year old trying to dress like a 20 year old which makes her appear way older than she is. Jen could look great if she’d stop with the tacky graphic tees and Amazon fast fashion.

[Anonymous]

Jen, if you're listening, hon. That birthday dress is a big no. You can show off your figure and hotness in a way that doesn't scream $39.99 Amazon next-day delivery.

You're a pretty lady with a good figure but you look cheap. Please please please get some hair and fashion advice from someone who isn't afraid to be honest with you. Invest in a neutral beige matte lipstick. Ease up on the concealer or find a shade that matches your skin or buy a blending sponge and use it.

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I think Jen doesn’t have that much money compared to her output over the years. I don’t think Brandon has that much money either.

I think Jen wants the bold looks but can’t afford stylists that can create a degree of refinement to those looks.

I’m not saying she’s poor or not well off. It’s just incredibly incredibly expensive to maintain photo-ready looks consistently. If you add up, hairstylist, makeup artist, clothes stylist, tailor, the clothes, makeup, shoes and accessories for a couple shoots a month, it’s probably more than her travels combined.

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I didn’t even include skin care, which is a whole other massive expense.