Jen Hatmaker

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Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

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Worse. Golf cart accident. A real tragedy.

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Anonymous wrote:Worse. Golf cart accident. A real tragedy.

That's very sad but hate to hear of lingering guilt when it is, after all, an accident. Not negligence.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

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No. Here was present but certainly not responsible. It was a close friend, sadly.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

Yes, he was driving the golf cart. Guy was on the back. Brandon took off before he was fully seated & he fell & hit his head. Lingered for several weeks with a brain injury then died.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

Yes, he was driving the golf cart. Guy was on the back. Brandon took off before he was fully seated & he fell & hit his head. Lingered for several weeks with a brain injury then died.

Thanks for the clarification. I had heard motorcycle, but this does cause more guilt than just an accident. Still you'd think that JH would respond to an addiction and guilt from a place of love/we will get through this/attitude, and not just clam up and file for divorce.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

Yes, he was driving the golf cart. Guy was on the back. Brandon took off before he was fully seated & he fell & hit his head. Lingered for several weeks with a brain injury then died.

Thanks for the clarification. I had heard motorcycle, but this does cause more guilt than just an accident. Still you'd think that JH would respond to an addiction and guilt from a place of love/we will get through this/attitude, and not just clam up and file for divorce.

Divorce wasn’t immediate. Funeral was September 2017.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

Yes, he was driving the golf cart. Guy was on the back. Brandon took off before he was fully seated & he fell & hit his head. Lingered for several weeks with a brain injury then died.

Thanks for the clarification. I had heard motorcycle, but this does cause more guilt than just an accident. Still you'd think that JH would respond to an addiction and guilt from a place of love/we will get through this/attitude, and not just clam up and file for divorce.

Divorce wasn’t immediate. Funeral was September 2017.

Right, divorce was immediate after the addiction was revealed, so it seems. She said it was life altering, which made it seem like a love child/long term affair. Addictions are life altering, but also recovery is something that can really bond a couple.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what happened to Brandon’s friend who died? I’ve seen it mentioned a few times but don’t know or remember what happened.

Motorcycle accident

Was Brandon responsible for the crash in some way?

Yes, he was driving the golf cart. Guy was on the back. Brandon took off before he was fully seated & he fell & hit his head. Lingered for several weeks with a brain injury then died.

Thanks for the clarification. I had heard motorcycle, but this does cause more guilt than just an accident. Still you'd think that JH would respond to an addiction and guilt from a place of love/we will get through this/attitude, and not just clam up and file for divorce.

I really don't think she wanted a divorce at all...I think he did. She just filed because he was lazy, as most men are about filing.

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I don't know what the addiction was about, assuming there was an addiction. There was quite a bit of drinking around ANC but nothing beyond normal social drinking. But Brandon became more and more a biker guy. Might have been something else. Those circles party pretty hard. Lots of opioids.

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A story I heard from a reliable source:
Once someone sent Jen a heartfelt email about how one of her books had influenced her.
Tray said, regarding the emailer, “she’s just another corn-eater.”
Corneater: someone who would be happy eat the corn kernels out of Jen’s shit.

This seems like a fitting description for most of her followers. Current and past. I don’t have a problem with that description.

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A story I heard from a reliable source:
Once someone sent Jen a heartfelt email about how one of her books had influenced her.
Tray said, regarding the emailer, “she’s just another corn-eater.”
Corneater: someone who would be happy eat the corn kernels out of Jen’s shit.

This seems like a fitting description for most of her followers. Current and past. I don’t have a problem with that description.

Sure, some of the fans are like that. However, if Tray said that, what an A-Hole. It just goes to show further that it’s all a farce; they’re just carnival barkers looking for the next sucker. Where is the humility they espouse? Nowhere in sight, that’s for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I was fairly good friends with JH for several years.
Can’t promise I’ll answer, but feel free to AMA.

Tell us what you know about the divorce and the events leading up to it.

This!

I do not know the exact reasons. Their inner circle is very, very tight. The sheltons, the Pruitt’s, a few others. It should be noted that Tray and Brandon used to be BFFs and it appears they no longer speak.

Jen - who was a Jennifer to everyone pre-fame - didn’t really mingle with those outside the inner circle. Even before she was “famous”. She was known for being pretty unreliable. Like if one of us had a baby & she signed up to bring a meal, probably be ready to order pizza. She just wasn’t a very good friend, tbh. She was barely involved in church - that was all Brandon’s gig. She showed up on Sunday, not much else. Definitely not the normal preachers wife. That was handled by another couple of church members, one in particular, and when that lady moved away, all the organizing & fellowship etc ended. There was the inner circle but Jen treated even her dear old friends like she was too busy to be bothered most of the time. You know that friend where you do most of yhe “work”, then you realize it’s pretty one sided, you start to see that they only seem to call you if they need something … that’s Jen. Once she began adding “famous” people to her friend list, that only deepened. You can’t return your friend’s call but you can go on a girls weekend with bloggers you’ve seen in the flesh like twice? Oh, okay. Lots of hurt feelings. Lots.

This is no surprise.- I do know a woman who felt very taken advantage of and hurt because Jenn literally pawned Remy off on her quite often. The woman had a daughter who was Remy’s age and they became fast friends at church. Remy was all of a sudden spending the night all the time with this girl. The mom felt however that it quickly became a baby sitting service and the friendship was never reciprocated. It was very one sided. Kinda like-, “Hey we have better things to do like hang out with our real friends whose kids are all much older. Can Remy stay the night with y’all?” “Can Remy come over to play for the afternoon, so I can do some stuff?” I mean once in a while is fine, but it never seemed that Jen invited the other girl over. And this woman played a big role in the church at one point. I know she felt very used after some time.