The Pitt, Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Maybe she will do it in the supply closet or something. Who knows.

She's not an idiot. That would not be believable. She'd do it in a bathroom stall.

I mean she grabbed a scalpel and put it in her pocket at work in plain sight. That’s pretty idiotic to me.

We know the scalpel is likely for cutting because we've seen her scars. There are several plausible reasons a doctor might grab a scalpel at work, so even if someone saw and thought it was weird, they'd be unlikely to say anything and I don't think would jump to the conclusion that's what it's for -- even some viewers didn't get it. So really not a very risky behavior IMO.

She is planning on cutting into herself repeatedly with a razor sharp tool, in an environment were nasty stuff like MRSA can be airborne. Extremely high risk. Does she slap a band-aid on? What if those cuts open up while she's working with a patient? No too smart.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Maybe she will do it in the supply closet or something. Who knows.

She's not an idiot. That would not be believable. She'd do it in a bathroom stall.

I mean she grabbed a scalpel and put it in her pocket at work in plain sight. That’s pretty idiotic to me.

We know the scalpel is likely for cutting because we've seen her scars. There are several plausible reasons a doctor might grab a scalpel at work, so even if someone saw and thought it was weird, they'd be unlikely to say anything and I don't think would jump to the conclusion that's what it's for -- even some viewers didn't get it. So really not a very risky behavior IMO.

She is planning on cutting into herself repeatedly with a razor sharp tool, in an environment were nasty stuff like MRSA can be airborne. Extremely high risk. Does she slap a band-aid on? What if those cuts open up while she's working with a patient? No too smart.

+1 I would say pretty idiotic.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no way a cutter becomes a dr.

? Of course this happens.

No. Real doctors in real life are not cutters. Sorry.

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Y'all are being ridiculous. Something like 15% of teens have engaged in cutting or self injury at some point, and the rate is higher for teenage girls. Some of those people to on to become doctors. It's so weird that you would assume this could never happen.

A very good friend of mine from high school was a cutter (abusive family) and she's now a partner at a well know law firm in LA.

Is she a dr? And is she currently cutting?

The original comment was "no way a cutter becomes a dr." Given that more than 1 in 10 teens, and 1 in 5 teenage girls, has engaged in cutting or other self injury, this is a really ridiculous assertion.

I don't go around asking my friends if they are cutters because it's a private activity that is none of my business. But I also don't judge it as a behavior because I've known more than one person who does it or did it, and it's usually just a sign of overwhelm of poor mental health. Plenty of doctors have poor mental health whether they are cutters or not. It's just weird to assert that cutting is somehow incompatible with becoming a doctor, and you have yet to explain WHY you think this, especially when we all know that doctors can have a broad variety of mental health issue including addiction, depression, personality disorders, anxiety, PTSD, just to name a few (many of which are represented on this show).

I’ll amend it just for you.

I don’t believe a real doctor would be cutting while currently practicing. It feels a little too unrealistic to me.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Maybe she will do it in the supply closet or something. Who knows.

She's not an idiot. That would not be believable. She'd do it in a bathroom stall.

I mean she grabbed a scalpel and put it in her pocket at work in plain sight. That’s pretty idiotic to me.

We know the scalpel is likely for cutting because we've seen her scars. There are several plausible reasons a doctor might grab a scalpel at work, so even if someone saw and thought it was weird, they'd be unlikely to say anything and I don't think would jump to the conclusion that's what it's for -- even some viewers didn't get it. So really not a very risky behavior IMO.

She is planning on cutting into herself repeatedly with a razor sharp tool, in an environment were nasty stuff like MRSA can be airborne. Extremely high risk. Does she slap a band-aid on? What if those cuts open up while she's working with a patient? No too smart.

+1 I would say pretty idiotic.

Because self harm is so logical.

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no way a cutter becomes a dr.

? Of course this happens.

No. Real doctors in real life are not cutters. Sorry.

+1

Y'all are being ridiculous. Something like 15% of teens have engaged in cutting or self injury at some point, and the rate is higher for teenage girls. Some of those people to on to become doctors. It's so weird that you would assume this could never happen.

A very good friend of mine from high school was a cutter (abusive family) and she's now a partner at a well know law firm in LA.

Is she a dr? And is she currently cutting?

The original comment was "no way a cutter becomes a dr." Given that more than 1 in 10 teens, and 1 in 5 teenage girls, has engaged in cutting or other self injury, this is a really ridiculous assertion.

I don't go around asking my friends if they are cutters because it's a private activity that is none of my business. But I also don't judge it as a behavior because I've known more than one person who does it or did it, and it's usually just a sign of overwhelm of poor mental health. Plenty of doctors have poor mental health whether they are cutters or not. It's just weird to assert that cutting is somehow incompatible with becoming a doctor, and you have yet to explain WHY you think this, especially when we all know that doctors can have a broad variety of mental health issue including addiction, depression, personality disorders, anxiety, PTSD, just to name a few (many of which are represented on this show).

I’ll amend it just for you.

I don’t believe a real doctor would be cutting while currently practicing. It feels a little too unrealistic to me.

Well, I have news for you..

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Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no way a cutter becomes a dr.

? Of course this happens.

No. Real doctors in real life are not cutters. Sorry.

Um, riiigggghhhhtt…. Ok.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Maybe she will do it in the supply closet or something. Who knows.

She's not an idiot. That would not be believable. She'd do it in a bathroom stall.

I mean she grabbed a scalpel and put it in her pocket at work in plain sight. That’s pretty idiotic to me.

We know the scalpel is likely for cutting because we've seen her scars. There are several plausible reasons a doctor might grab a scalpel at work, so even if someone saw and thought it was weird, they'd be unlikely to say anything and I don't think would jump to the conclusion that's what it's for -- even some viewers didn't get it. So really not a very risky behavior IMO.

She is planning on cutting into herself repeatedly with a razor sharp tool, in an environment were nasty stuff like MRSA can be airborne. Extremely high risk. Does she slap a band-aid on? What if those cuts open up while she's working with a patient? No too smart.

I don't think you know much about cutting.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

I'm pro-Santos in the conflict with Langdon, but I think Langdon's kindness towards Mel last season was as good of an example of a character displaying kindness as Santos' efforts towards Whitaker. Langdon took the time to check on Mel and also to let her know that she has what it takes to be a doctor and that she had valuable qualities for the Pitt specifically. That was kind.

That's why the storyline is compelling to me. Neither of these people are terrible people. They both have struggles. We've seen them both go the extra mile for their patients and colleagues. We've also seen them both at their worst.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

I'm pro-Santos in the conflict with Langdon, but I think Langdon's kindness towards Mel last season was as good of an example of a character displaying kindness as Santos' efforts towards Whitaker. Langdon took the time to check on Mel and also to let her know that she has what it takes to be a doctor and that she had valuable qualities for the Pitt specifically. That was kind.

That's why the storyline is compelling to me. Neither of these people are terrible people. They both have struggles. We've seen them both go the extra mile for their patients and colleagues. We've also seen them both at their worst.

I did not like the way Santos treated the deaf patient. That was incredibly rude.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

I'm pro-Santos in the conflict with Langdon, but I think Langdon's kindness towards Mel last season was as good of an example of a character displaying kindness as Santos' efforts towards Whitaker. Langdon took the time to check on Mel and also to let her know that she has what it takes to be a doctor and that she had valuable qualities for the Pitt specifically. That was kind.

That's why the storyline is compelling to me. Neither of these people are terrible people. They both have struggles. We've seen them both go the extra mile for their patients and colleagues. We've also seen them both at their worst.

I did not like the way Santos treated the deaf patient. That was incredibly rude.

Like how ogilvie treated the obese patient? Those scenes aren't fun to watch, but they're accurate af. Doctors, being people, have their biases and character defects. Ableism and fatphobia are rampant in the medical industry, just like everywhere else.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

I'm pro-Santos in the conflict with Langdon, but I think Langdon's kindness towards Mel last season was as good of an example of a character displaying kindness as Santos' efforts towards Whitaker. Langdon took the time to check on Mel and also to let her know that she has what it takes to be a doctor and that she had valuable qualities for the Pitt specifically. That was kind.

That's why the storyline is compelling to me. Neither of these people are terrible people. They both have struggles. We've seen them both go the extra mile for their patients and colleagues. We've also seen them both at their worst.

I did not like the way Santos treated the deaf patient. That was incredibly rude.

Like how ogilvie treated the obese patient? Those scenes aren't fun to watch, but they're accurate af. Doctors, being people, have their biases and character defects. Ableism and fatphobia are rampant in the medical industry, just like everywhere else.

Remind me what Ogilvie did that was so rude? Was it a comment?

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He made several comments about the patient’s weight, asking if he was on a GLP-1, asked if he’d considered diet and exercise… McKay had to take him aside and tell him let’s focus on helping the patient, not on his weight.

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I think Ogilvie was much worse towards the obese patient than Santos was towards the deaf patient. I agree Santos was rude, but it wasn't because the patient was deaf. It was because she was pressed for time and the hospital's interpreter services were not enabling her to speak to the patient. Totally wrong for Santos to take that out on the patient, but nowhere near as bad as what Ogilivie said about his patient.

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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

1) This would be an awful thing to do to this character. Cutting is not like a drug addiction -- it doesn't impair her ability as a doctor and she's not committing a felony in taking that scalpel (it's not great, but it's not like stealing controlled substances). There's nothing for Langdon to catch, do it would just be a massive invasion of her privacy.

2) The only place she'd do this at work would be a stall in the women's bathroom. Why would Langdon be walking in on Santos in there?

Self destructive behavior in an environment that is extremely high risk for infection. She needs help. Only fitting that he's the one to save her from herself.

This is a stretch. She's literally stealing a sterile scalpel. If she gets caught trying to use that same scalpel on a patient, sure, that would be patient endangerment.

She does in fact need help but Langdon, who has zero trust with her and harmed her with no real accountability, would be the last person in a position to do so.

We basically already saw Whitaker noticing her pocketing the scalpel and coming over to check on her (with kindness) which is the actual help she needs.

Right, but this is fiction, Langdon catching her is the better story.

It's not a good story because it doesn't make sense. How would he catch her, unless he walks into her stall in the women's restroom? Why would Langdon doing that make a good story?

I get people think it's "good story" because it feels parallel to Santos "catching" Langdon stealing drugs (though she didn't actually catch him -- she reported her suspicions to Robby and Robby is the one who "caught" Langdon when he searched his locker, something Santos correctly did not do), but because cutting is very, very different behavior from a benzos addiction or stealing hospital meds, it doesn't actually work. Even if Langdon suspected Santos of cutting and reported it to Robby, what Robby would do (correctly) is tell him to mind is own goddamn business because cutting isn't illegal, isn't a violation of hospital policy, and doesn't directly concern Santos' job or patients.

I really cannot think of a scenario where Langdon "catches" Santos that wouldn't be either totally unbelievable or cruel, or both.

You’ve reading the idea all wrong. It wouldn’t be something that Langdon would be reporting to a supervisor. It would probably be a way for Langdon to help her and for them to bond. That’s how I see how it could play out.

When has Langdon helped someone outside the scope of his employment as a doctor?

We really haven’t seen any of the characters outside of the hosptial so not sure we can say.

When Santos learned that Whitaker was homeless, she invited him to move into her apartment. That was a compassionate act outside the scope of her work. Langdon presents as “nice,” but he is not doing anything for anyone.

I'm pro-Santos in the conflict with Langdon, but I think Langdon's kindness towards Mel last season was as good of an example of a character displaying kindness as Santos' efforts towards Whitaker. Langdon took the time to check on Mel and also to let her know that she has what it takes to be a doctor and that she had valuable qualities for the Pitt specifically. That was kind.

That's why the storyline is compelling to me. Neither of these people are terrible people. They both have struggles. We've seen them both go the extra mile for their patients and colleagues. We've also seen them both at their worst.

I did not like the way Santos treated the deaf patient. That was incredibly rude.

Agree it was rude. One issue Santos has as a doctor (and one reason emergency med might not be right for her) is that she gets impatient with patients who don't interest her, either because their medical issues are run of the mill or because she can't relate to them personally. She's like the flip of Mohan, who is very invested in her patients no matter how basic their concerns. But EDs get lots of repeat, boring cases where the treatment is something basic.

Santos would probably do better in surgery, where the focus is more on the procedure than the patient. And Mohan would do better in geriatrics or internal medicine, where there is less urgency but her patience and empathy can really pay off.