The Pitt, Season 2

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

This is the original idea. This poster thought Hashimi was having a dissociative episode due to PTSD when she was actually having an absence seizure due to epilepsy.

This poster also thought she sees a neurologist to mange her PTSD but that is also not correct. She’s sees one to manage her epilepsy. We really don’t know if she’s treating her PTSD.

I’m not disagreeing that Hashimi doesn’t have PTSD or that it can contribute to her seizures but this poster didn’t know about the epilepsy or the absence seizure.

Their ideas were good and based on the available knowledge at the time.

NOW we know:
Al-Hashimi contracted viral meningitis at age 5 leaving her with absence seizures, but she had been seizure free for a year UNTIL
Baby Jane Doe triggered her PTSD which triggered an absence seizure
Can we stop arguing about who pinpointed exactly what at what moment

WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF DETENTE WITH SANTOS AND LANGDON FANS

Let’s not throw that away

lol. Love this!

Ha ha, yes. I love both Santos AND Langdon ... it is possible!

For the first time, I am giving Langdon the benefit of the doubt and empathizing with what it would be like to return to your high pressure work environment with everyone knowing that you had an addiction issue (even though they don't know the worst of it). One of the scenes in the finale that bothered me most was giving his urine sample. I thought he was so rude to the nurse who had to observe him and that fit with my general assessment of Langdon being an arrogant jerk. Looking with empathy I am imagining his humiliation and stress level and snapping in the moment.

Are they any reforming Santos haters? Maybe you're not falling in love but can you see her differently than you did before?

Yes. The karaoke scene helped. Also, she didn’t snap at Langdon when he was near her. He laughed at one of her jokes. I see progress. I’ve been saying all along I want them to form a friendship.

Robby and Santos both got a lot less mean in the finale. I think for Robby it was him being called out by Duke asking him exactly what lesson he was leaving his staff with -- he realized he was going out on this angry, nasty note and dug deep to find more care for his team, even seeking out Langdon to try and find some resolution there. Langdon and Mohan were justifiably resistant to his efforts, IMO, but it helped to see him try and make those repairs because it indicated he still cared even though he's at the end of his rope mentally.

Santos got way nicer as her shift wrapped up. Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever. And maybe Whitaker will swing by with some ripe avocados while she's sleeping!

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

This is the original idea. This poster thought Hashimi was having a dissociative episode due to PTSD when she was actually having an absence seizure due to epilepsy.

This poster also thought she sees a neurologist to mange her PTSD but that is also not correct. She’s sees one to manage her epilepsy. We really don’t know if she’s treating her PTSD.

I’m not disagreeing that Hashimi doesn’t have PTSD or that it can contribute to her seizures but this poster didn’t know about the epilepsy or the absence seizure.

Their ideas were good and based on the available knowledge at the time.

NOW we know:
Al-Hashimi contracted viral meningitis at age 5 leaving her with absence seizures, but she had been seizure free for a year UNTIL
Baby Jane Doe triggered her PTSD which triggered an absence seizure
Can we stop arguing about who pinpointed exactly what at what moment

WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF DETENTE WITH SANTOS AND LANGDON FANS

Let’s not throw that away

lol. Love this!

Ha ha, yes. I love both Santos AND Langdon ... it is possible!

For the first time, I am giving Langdon the benefit of the doubt and empathizing with what it would be like to return to your high pressure work environment with everyone knowing that you had an addiction issue (even though they don't know the worst of it). One of the scenes in the finale that bothered me most was giving his urine sample. I thought he was so rude to the nurse who had to observe him and that fit with my general assessment of Langdon being an arrogant jerk. Looking with empathy I am imagining his humiliation and stress level and snapping in the moment.

Are they any reforming Santos haters? Maybe you're not falling in love but can you see her differently than you did before?

Yes. The karaoke scene helped. Also, she didn’t snap at Langdon when he was near her. He laughed at one of her jokes. I see progress. I’ve been saying all along I want them to form a friendship.

Robby and Santos both got a lot less mean in the finale. I think for Robby it was him being called out by Duke asking him exactly what lesson he was leaving his staff with -- he realized he was going out on this angry, nasty note and dug deep to find more care for his team, even seeking out Langdon to try and find some resolution there. Langdon and Mohan were justifiably resistant to his efforts, IMO, but it helped to see him try and make those repairs because it indicated he still cared even though he's at the end of his rope mentally.

Santos got way nicer as her shift wrapped up. Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever. And maybe Whitaker will swing by with some ripe avocados while she's sleeping!

+1 to all of this.

I love Duke!

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll go first. I have loathed the Langdon character and really invested in Santos. I’m willing to look at how they are alike and the possibility that he’s not simply a manipulative addict and that he and Santos have some things in common.

She is a cutter. OF COURSE they have things in common.

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Anonymous wrote:So what was up with Dr. Al-Hashimi’s private phone call? Was she doing that on behalf of the possibly schizophrenic patient to see if he had a brain tumor?

No. She said she was a patient of the neurologist and was making an appointment for herself. It's very clear in the conversation.

We've seen have Dr. Al-Hashimi have two, what appear to be dissociative episodes. One in that cliffhanger early in the season when she's looking down at Baby Jane Doe and Samira keeps saying her name and she can't hear it, and then another in this episode right before she makes the call to the neurologist.

We also learned in this episode that she has worked overseas with Doctors Without Borders (she uses the French name of the org), including at the hospital Dasht-E-Barchi hospital in Kabul. If you are unfamiliar with it, Dasht-E-Barchi was the site of a massacre by a military insurgency in 2020, where a maternity ward was targeted and many mothers and hospital workers were murdered.

It is likely that Dr. Al-Hashimi has PTSD from that experience, that was triggered by Baby Jane Doe's cries. She probably sees a neurologist to deal with neurological effects of her PTSD, including flashbacks and dissociative episodes. She is recognizing the signs of a triggering episode in herself and she's reaching out to her doctor in order to address them as quickly as possible.

This will be interesting to watch unfold because almost everyone in that ED is dealing with some level of PTSD, due to the mass shooting event and/or Covid, as well as other more discrete incidents (Dana's assault, Santos' childhood abuse, Langdon's addiction). We are also seeing the trauma experienced by both patients and their families this season. Ilana, the rape survivor, in the immediate aftermath of SA by a friend. We also see Jackson's (the law student patient who has been hearing voices) family discussing another family member who committed suicide, and also the choice to conceal that from Jackson's sister. And then there is Roxy, the cancer patient, whose entire family is experiencing the trauma of her physical decline and likely imminent death.

I think this season is about trauma, both in the acute sense of someone with a critical injury being rolled into a trauma room at the ER, and also in the broader sense of the events that mark us and follow us throughout our lives. How it manifests, how people deal. Everything from thrill seeking as a way to quiet traumatic episodes (Abbott, also Langdon), self-medicating (Langdon), seeking treatment (Al-Hashimi), denial and escapism (Rabi), humor and putting up defenses (Santos), self-harm (also Santos, also Langdon, also maybe Rabi), digging into your work (ALL OF THEM), and so on. What is healthy, what is not, what works anyway.

This is the original idea. This poster thought Hashimi was having a dissociative episode due to PTSD when she was actually having an absence seizure due to epilepsy.

This poster also thought she sees a neurologist to mange her PTSD but that is also not correct. She’s sees one to manage her epilepsy. We really don’t know if she’s treating her PTSD.

I’m not disagreeing that Hashimi doesn’t have PTSD or that it can contribute to her seizures but this poster didn’t know about the epilepsy or the absence seizure.

Their ideas were good and based on the available knowledge at the time.

NOW we know:
Al-Hashimi contracted viral meningitis at age 5 leaving her with absence seizures, but she had been seizure free for a year UNTIL
Baby Jane Doe triggered her PTSD which triggered an absence seizure
Can we stop arguing about who pinpointed exactly what at what moment

WE ARE ON THE VERGE OF DETENTE WITH SANTOS AND LANGDON FANS

Let’s not throw that away

lol. Love this!

Ha ha, yes. I love both Santos AND Langdon ... it is possible!

For the first time, I am giving Langdon the benefit of the doubt and empathizing with what it would be like to return to your high pressure work environment with everyone knowing that you had an addiction issue (even though they don't know the worst of it). One of the scenes in the finale that bothered me most was giving his urine sample. I thought he was so rude to the nurse who had to observe him and that fit with my general assessment of Langdon being an arrogant jerk. Looking with empathy I am imagining his humiliation and stress level and snapping in the moment.

Are they any reforming Santos haters? Maybe you're not falling in love but can you see her differently than you did before?

Yes. The karaoke scene helped. Also, she didn’t snap at Langdon when he was near her. He laughed at one of her jokes. I see progress. I’ve been saying all along I want them to form a friendship.

Robby and Santos both got a lot less mean in the finale. I think for Robby it was him being called out by Duke asking him exactly what lesson he was leaving his staff with -- he realized he was going out on this angry, nasty note and dug deep to find more care for his team, even seeking out Langdon to try and find some resolution there. Langdon and Mohan were justifiably resistant to his efforts, IMO, but it helped to see him try and make those repairs because it indicated he still cared even though he's at the end of his rope mentally.

Santos got way nicer as her shift wrapped up. Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever. And maybe Whitaker will swing by with some ripe avocados while she's sleeping!

I loved Santos in the last episode. Falling asleep. Karaoke with Mel.

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Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever.

Yes, she was working a double. I felt like her frustration was with the translation system not being available, but she was too exhausted to communicate that to the patient. I thought the moment with Mel was really sweet. We'd seen Santos actually nodding off and know she was both exhausted and stressed about Langdon. I felt like she saw Mel's anxiety and loneliness and while she made the most of going out, it was more for Mel than herself. Santos is not going to hug it out but she does show up (like giving Whitaker a home).

There was a really beautiful moment that I don't think we've discussed with Abbot. When he was talking Robby down and talking about all the trauma they'd experienced. When he spoke briefly about losing his wife and touched his ring, the way his voice wavered and the look in his eye. It was very brief but felt powerful.

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Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever.

Yes, she was working a double. I felt like her frustration was with the translation system not being available, but she was too exhausted to communicate that to the patient. I thought the moment with Mel was really sweet. We'd seen Santos actually nodding off and know she was both exhausted and stressed about Langdon. I felt like she saw Mel's anxiety and loneliness and while she made the most of going out, it was more for Mel than herself. Santos is not going to hug it out but she does show up (like giving Whitaker a home).

There was a really beautiful moment that I don't think we've discussed with Abbot. When he was talking Robby down and talking about all the trauma they'd experienced. When he spoke briefly about losing his wife and touched his ring, the way his voice wavered and the look in his eye. It was very brief but felt powerful.

The actress had an appendectomy during filming and she had to sit for the last few episodes.

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Didn't someone say she was working a double shift? So she's been on since last night? I feel like that would explain a lot about her behavior, especially stuff like her having no grace with the deaf patient because she was just beyond tired and had nothing left to give. Though it makes it improbably she would go out for karaoke afterwards? Hopefully she is getting like a 4 day weekend now and can sleep forever.

Yes, she was working a double. I felt like her frustration was with the translation system not being available, but she was too exhausted to communicate that to the patient. I thought the moment with Mel was really sweet. We'd seen Santos actually nodding off and know she was both exhausted and stressed about Langdon. I felt like she saw Mel's anxiety and loneliness and while she made the most of going out, it was more for Mel than herself. Santos is not going to hug it out but she does show up (like giving Whitaker a home).

There was a really beautiful moment that I don't think we've discussed with Abbot. When he was talking Robby down and talking about all the trauma they'd experienced. When he spoke briefly about losing his wife and touched his ring, the way his voice wavered and the look in his eye. It was very brief but felt powerful.

The actress had an appendectomy during filming and she had to sit for the last few episodes.

We know. The emergency appendectomy happened while they were filming episode 8. The exhaustion and double shift were not created because of the appendectomy.

[Anonymous]

Welp, as someone who had a 32 weeker because of severe pre-eclampsia, that was triggering.

[Anonymous]

This season felt like the Robbie show and everyone else was just there to further his story, especially the last few episodes. I know he's the star and writer, but I did see it as an ensemble show.

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Anonymous wrote:Welp, as someone who had a 32 weeker because of severe pre-eclampsia, that was triggering.

Same. I was thinking the entire time "She has HELLP and PE." Thankfully I made it to 38 weeks but the whole experience was a lot and even 21 years later, it scares me.

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I know everyone seems to adore Dana, but I think the actress cannot act. She's so mannered with that fake over-the-top tough gal diner accent. I want less of her.

I also want to slap that smug, arrogant nepo-doc Victoria.

Santos is in the wrong career. She's too nasty to be a physician.

I love Mohan and hope she gets the life she deserves. Same with Whitaker! They are both compassionate and kind! I'd want them as my doctors. Mel, too. Poor abandoned Mel. I hope she gets a life beyond her sister.

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Anonymous wrote:I know everyone seems to adore Dana, but I think the actress cannot act. She's so mannered with that fake over-the-top tough gal diner accent. I want less of her.

I also want to slap that smug, arrogant nepo-doc Victoria.

Santos is in the wrong career. She's too nasty to be a physician.

I love Mohan and hope she gets the life she deserves. Same with Whitaker! They are both compassionate and kind! I'd want them as my doctors. Mel, too. Poor abandoned Mel. I hope she gets a life beyond her sister.

I don’t see Victoria as smug and arrogant at all. That’s Santos!

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Anonymous wrote:I know everyone seems to adore Dana, but I think the actress cannot act. She's so mannered with that fake over-the-top tough gal diner accent. I want less of her.

I also want to slap that smug, arrogant nepo-doc Victoria.

Santos is in the wrong career. She's too nasty to be a physician.

I love Mohan and hope she gets the life she deserves. Same with Whitaker! They are both compassionate and kind! I'd want them as my doctors. Mel, too. Poor abandoned Mel. I hope she gets a life beyond her sister.

I don’t see Victoria as smug and arrogant at all. That’s Santos!

Oh I do. She thinks she's a genius and superior to the other docs, then seems bewildered, with that wide-eyed stunned expression, when anyone dares to critique her.

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Anonymous wrote:Welp, as someone who had a 32 weeker because of severe pre-eclampsia, that was triggering.

Same. I was thinking the entire time "She has HELLP and PE." Thankfully I made it to 38 weeks but the whole experience was a lot and even 21 years later, it scares me.

My mom was even seeing a high risk OB at the time and said it came on crazy fast. She said the magnesium was pretty terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:I know everyone seems to adore Dana, but I think the actress cannot act. She's so mannered with that fake over-the-top tough gal diner accent. I want less of her.

I also want to slap that smug, arrogant nepo-doc Victoria.

Santos is in the wrong career. She's too nasty to be a physician.

I love Mohan and hope she gets the life she deserves. Same with Whitaker! They are both compassionate and kind! I'd want them as my doctors. Mel, too. Poor abandoned Mel. I hope she gets a life beyond her sister.

I don’t see Victoria as smug and arrogant at all. That’s Santos!

Oh I do. She thinks she's a genius and superior to the other docs, then seems bewildered, with that wide-eyed stunned expression, when anyone dares to critique her.

She’s never once acted superior to other docs. If anything, she lacks confidence.