Trump tariffs: ruin U.S. economy until 2040

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Okay, I realize I’m looking for logic where there is none. But even if we accept the idea that the goal of these tariffs is to re-industrialize the US…and even if we accept that tariffs on foreign manufacturing might make companies re-invest in U.S. factories…

Then why the heck are we putting tariffs on bananas and coffee? We are never going to be able to grow these things at any scale in the US. It’s GOOD to import these things — it means we have them, when we otherwise wouldn’t.

Can someone help me find even a crappy rationale that someone *might* believe where this made sense?

It is a negotiation to get the other country to reduce its tariffs. If you place tariffs on things they don't export, they have no incentive to reduce tariffs.

How is it both a negotiating tactic, and also the mechanism to bring in $600 billion to offset tax breaks for millionaires? It can't be both.

And also apparently a means to re-shore manufacturing, which can’t happen when you wipe out the stock market and won’t happen when the policy changes from one day to the next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I realize I’m looking for logic where there is none. But even if we accept the idea that the goal of these tariffs is to re-industrialize the US…and even if we accept that tariffs on foreign manufacturing might make companies re-invest in U.S. factories…

Then why the heck are we putting tariffs on bananas and coffee? We are never going to be able to grow these things at any scale in the US. It’s GOOD to import these things — it means we have them, when we otherwise wouldn’t.

Can someone help me find even a crappy rationale that someone *might* believe where this made sense?

It is a negotiation to get the other country to reduce its tariffs. If you place tariffs on things they don't export, they have no incentive to reduce tariffs.

What’s wrong with most-favored nation status?

Most favored nation status is just another reason why this is the absolutely worst way to do things.

We're supposedly trying to get other countries to lower their tariffs. Putting aside the fact that these "reciprocal" tariffs aren't reciprical and aren't based on tarrifs. If countries lower their tariffs in response to this they aren't lowering them just for American imports. Because of MFN they are also lowering them for everyone else. Congratulations, we've just become the bad guys in order to benefit China.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

[Anonymous]

First cracks in Trump billionaire support. Ackman warning of an “economic nuclear winter” and of course futures are signaling a massacre tomorrow.


The world faces an "economic nuclear winter" if President Trump doesn't immediately pause his sweeping reciprocal tariffs, hedge fund manager Bill Ackman said Sunday night

https://www.axios.com/2025/04/06/ackman-trump-tariffs-nuclear-winter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Okay, I realize I’m looking for logic where there is none. But even if we accept the idea that the goal of these tariffs is to re-industrialize the US…and even if we accept that tariffs on foreign manufacturing might make companies re-invest in U.S. factories…

Then why the heck are we putting tariffs on bananas and coffee? We are never going to be able to grow these things at any scale in the US. It’s GOOD to import these things — it means we have them, when we otherwise wouldn’t.

Can someone help me find even a crappy rationale that someone *might* believe where this made sense?

It is a negotiation to get the other country to reduce its tariffs. If you place tariffs on things they don't export, they have no incentive to reduce tariffs.

How is it both a negotiating tactic, and also the mechanism to bring in $600 billion to offset tax breaks for millionaires? It can't be both.

And also apparently a means to re-shore manufacturing, which can’t happen when you wipe out the stock market and won’t happen when the policy changes from one day to the next.

They want to be able to ppay people to tighten screws on iphones and make pencils...menial work that won't pay anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

Looks like a great future! 79% of the jobs in this country are white collar, 9.7% are manufacturing. I guess Trump and republicans want to reverse that? WTF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

Hope she and her family will be the first in line to take those jobs.

[Anonymous]

This is such an “emperor has no clothes” situation, except far, far more dire. It feels like an experiment to see how far Trump can go, how much he can destroy, how many laws he can break, before Congress does its job. It’s an embarrassment.

[Anonymous]

Trump was asked questions on AF-1 on the way back from his golf weekend and mostly talked about his golf handicap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, 900 being laid off at Stellantis (maker of Jeeps) as direct consequence of Tariffs.

https://www.cbsnews.com/detroit/news/stellantis-pause-production-windsor-plant-layoff-900-workers-midwest/

The Stellantis and Whirlpool layoffs should be in the FAFO thread. I’m sure the majority of those workers voted for the Orangeman and his tariffs.

Stellantis shut down factories in Canada and Mexico.

Stellantis also laid off over 900 hundred employees across Indiana and Michigan. They reported it’s temporary until they figure out the impact of the tariffs from products made in Canada.

One of MANY companies laying off.

I work in clean energy, one of the few industries that brought manufacturing back to the US, is laying people off - all in red states.

Under Trump everyone will be working in a factory!

Looks like a great future! 79% of the jobs in this country are white collar, 9.7% are manufacturing. I guess Trump and republicans want to reverse that? WTF

I mean yes? 60 hour work weeks in factories for you and your kids, and what remains of the nice white collar jobs that aren’t outsourced to a sketchy AI for them and their kids.

[Anonymous]

China's ACTUAL tariff rate on was only 7.5%

Trump's minions bungled it, used AI to claim it was 67%, and thus slapped a 34% tariff on them

China has now increased its tariff from 7.5% to 34%

Trump instantly made China's tariff 4.5x WORSE

He is an IDIOT - costing us TRILLIONS

[Anonymous]

Massive crashes in futures market already this evening and seeing it in other economies around the world. Prepare tomorrow 4/7 for a major market crash.

Aaron Parnas reporting better than any news network.