Donnie Dumptruck says Mar-A-Lago's been searched by the FBI

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The National Security Division/Counterintelligence Section requested that the basement storage locker be secured. This is unprecedented in US history. And in a written response Trump — through his lawyers — gave what was tantamount to the double bird, even though they put on a bigger lock. Trumpworld was itching for a fight.

The lock they installed was so good they had to break the doorframe itself to gain entry.

Many people are saying that this was the biggest, strongest lock in history, anywhere in the world by far.

It was the perfect lock. A bugle lock. One big, strong FBI agent, with tears in his eyes, said if was the most perfect lock he’d ever seen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The National Security Division/Counterintelligence Section requested that the basement storage locker be secured. This is unprecedented in US history. And in a written response Trump — through his lawyers — gave what was tantamount to the double bird, even though they put on a bigger lock. Trumpworld was itching for a fight.

The lock they installed was so good they had to break the doorframe itself to gain entry.

Many people are saying that this was the biggest, strongest lock in history, anywhere in the world by far.

It was the perfect lock. A bugle lock. One big, strong FBI agent, with tears in his eyes, said if was the most perfect lock he’d ever seen.

^*^ bigly lock

[Anonymous]

These documents must be pretty important

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid. I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

The bolded is false. There were several meetings between the DOJ and Trump's attorneys about this.

Trump can go ahead and waive his attorney client privilege on this and show that the negotiations were going nowhere. FBI and DOJ and press all fell for russia collusion and ignored H Biden laptop so for now, I will go ahead and believe Trump and his team because time and again, they are the ones who have been telling the truth.

you can't be for real. is there a hole in the alternate universe? this is just crazy town.

About 30% of our country has fallen prey to deep propaganda at the hands of "newsmax" OAB, Fox, Breitbart, InfoWars, etc.

Totally it’s insane.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid.I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

He was subpoenaed first!!!!
Subpoena Preceded Search Warrant in Push to Retrieve Material From Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html

Uhh. You are so thick. They asked him to put a lock on it. And he did and showed confirmation of the lock. That implies they will tell him what to do with the documents next. And they didn't. And they didn't come back until the raid. I mean, let's assume all the material is classified. If so, H=he SHOULD keep them safe and they should only be transferred to those with an appropriate clearance with appropriate chain of custody. He can't just put the documents in the mail or send them with UPS. SO if it is true that DOJ said "put a lock on them" and he did that, then if they didn't follow up with more instruction and jumped to a raid, this is crazy.

Hey s for brains. Did it occur to you that no one was actually allowed in most federal buildings during COVID. I haven't gone back to my federal office but once since March of 2020. No one was at NARA waiting for his docs. His basement under lock and key was about as good as it gets and DOJ knew it.

This is daft. The documents were required to be returned pursuant to a valid subpoena, notwithstanding the fact it was illegal to remove them in the first instance. Trump opted to keep classified materials in a non secured faculty for months thereafter. His lawyers could have notified NARA, or better yet NSD, at any time to come collect the documents. They chose not to take steps necessary to protect a national security risk. This comes in the wake of a spate of stories of unauthorized copies of NSA materials being sent to the WH in the last days of the administration by hacks Patel and Cohen-Watnick.

DOJ/NARA/FBI requested the documents on numerous occasions. The Trump attorneys admitted they were still at Mar A Lago despite the former President and others denying the same.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is a difference between being deferential to the decisions of your subordinates and being unaware. Biden is Garland's boss and anyone with half a brain knew this would be a big deal and Biden should at least know about it.

Biden was also unaware that Garland was about to make a statement today.

Garland was unaware that the raid would happen when it did and how it did. He should have. It is his agency.

You can absolutely dislike Trump but also appreciate the optics and historical precedent set by one president investigating the home of a former president that is also likely to run again. Just think back what a firestorm it was when Comey kept saying things about H. Clinton. This is a big deal and Biden and Garland should be on it.

No. It was a firestorm because it was unprecedented to do so close to an election and Comey made deeply personal comments about HRC.

Trump politicized DOJ. They are not the president's lawyers, but the nation's. Biden doesn't - and shouldn't - know these details. For Garland, he signed the warrant. He doesn't need to get the tick tock unless something goes wrong.

Yes, it's a big deal, but they are not real estate agents who need their hands on the sale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, here is the thing. IF this is a big deal and shows Trump was colluding with Russia (which is what all you LWNJ are saying), then why has it been all nicey nicey for weeks between Trump and DOJ until now. If, on the other hand, this is about returning documents to the national archives, then this is so much overreach that it is in fact the bullying of a potential political rival. Garland said the warrant was necessary because it wasn't possible to any other route. He is saying that this was the ONLY way to move ahead. Garland just put himself into a tiny box.

The only way to move ahead after months of negotiations going nowhere. How is this so hard to understand?

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Judge demonstrates minor annoyance DOJ failed to meet and confer with opposing counsel prior to filing its motion. But had it done so it would have ceded the benefit of filing the motion and today’s announcement while Trump dragged his feet. Well played. Trump now has to sh+t or get off the pot by tomorrow.

Key phrase is that DOJ failed to meet with Trump's counsel before seeking the warrant. This was a huge mistake.

No, the huge mistake was Trump trying to steal highly classified documents.

Let's cast blame where it exists.

Right??? There's never accountability for GOP actions - it's always the Dems' responsibility to clean up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid.I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

He was subpoenaed first!!!!
Subpoena Preceded Search Warrant in Push to Retrieve Material From Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html

Uhh. You are so thick. They asked him to put a lock on it. And he did and showed confirmation of the lock. That implies they will tell him what to do with the documents next. And they didn't. And they didn't come back until the raid. I mean, let's assume all the material is classified. If so, H=he SHOULD keep them safe and they should only be transferred to those with an appropriate clearance with appropriate chain of custody. He can't just put the documents in the mail or send them with UPS. SO if it is true that DOJ said "put a lock on them" and he did that, then if they didn't follow up with more instruction and jumped to a raid, this is crazy.

This is daft. The documents were required to be returned pursuant to a valid subpoena, notwithstanding the fact it was illegal to remove them in the first instance. Trump opted to keep classified materials in a non secured faculty for months thereafter. His lawyers could have notified NARA, or better yet NSD, at any time to come collect the documents. They chose not to take steps necessary to protect a national security risk. This comes in the wake of a spate of stories of unauthorized copies of NSA materials being sent to the WH in the last days of the administration by hacks Patel and Cohen-Watnick.

Years ago I worked at a defense contractor. One of our employees took a bunch of classified documents home. When we found out, we immediately reported it to DoD as we were required to do. The FBI was at her house within 24 hours with a warrant. No negotiations, no subpoenas. They just kicked in her door and took the documents back. She also lost her clearance and we fired her. Don't know if she was prosecuted. That's what happens to normal people who do this stuff. Trump got velvet glove treatment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid. I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

The bolded is false. There were several meetings between the DOJ and Trump's attorneys about this.

Trump can go ahead and waive his attorney client privilege on this and show that the negotiations were going nowhere. FBI and DOJ and press all fell for russia collusion and ignored H Biden laptop so for now, I will go ahead and believe Trump and his team because time and again, they are the ones who have been telling the truth.

you can't be for real. is there a hole in the alternate universe? this is just crazy town.

About 30% of our country has fallen prey to deep propaganda at the hands of "newsmax" OAB, Fox, Breitbart, InfoWars, etc.

Including the Trumpy House Rs. This is deeply stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid.I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

He was subpoenaed first!!!!
Subpoena Preceded Search Warrant in Push to Retrieve Material From Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html

Uhh. You are so thick. They asked him to put a lock on it. And he did and showed confirmation of the lock. That implies they will tell him what to do with the documents next. And they didn't. And they didn't come back until the raid. I mean, let's assume all the material is classified. If so, H=he SHOULD keep them safe and they should only be transferred to those with an appropriate clearance with appropriate chain of custody. He can't just put the documents in the mail or send them with UPS. SO if it is true that DOJ said "put a lock on them" and he did that, then if they didn't follow up with more instruction and jumped to a raid, this is crazy.

This is daft. The documents were required to be returned pursuant to a valid subpoena, notwithstanding the fact it was illegal to remove them in the first instance. Trump opted to keep classified materials in a non secured faculty for months thereafter. His lawyers could have notified NARA, or better yet NSD, at any time to come collect the documents. They chose not to take steps necessary to protect a national security risk. This comes in the wake of a spate of stories of unauthorized copies of NSA materials being sent to the WH in the last days of the administration by hacks Patel and Cohen-Watnick.

Years ago I worked at a defense contractor. One of our employees took a bunch of classified documents home. When we found out, we immediately reported it to DoD as we were required to do. The FBI was at her house within 24 hours with a warrant. No negotiations, no subpoenas. They just kicked in her door and took the documents back. She also lost her clearance and we fired her. Don't know if she was prosecuted. That's what happens to normal people who do this stuff. Trump got velvet glove treatment.

+1 Does no one remember what happened to Reality Winner?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid. I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

The bolded is false. There were several meetings between the DOJ and Trump's attorneys about this.

Trump can go ahead and waive his attorney client privilege on this and show that the negotiations were going nowhere. FBI and DOJ and press all fell for russia collusion and ignored H Biden laptop so for now, I will go ahead and believe Trump and his team because time and again, they are the ones who have been telling the truth.

you can't be for real. is there a hole in the alternate universe? this is just crazy town.

About 30% of our country has fallen prey to deep propaganda at the hands of "newsmax" OAB, Fox, Breitbart, InfoWars, etc.

+1 This is what some of the posters here are reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid. I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

The bolded is false. There were several meetings between the DOJ and Trump's attorneys about this.

Trump can go ahead and waive his attorney client privilege on this and show that the negotiations were going nowhere. FBI and DOJ and press all fell for russia collusion and ignored H Biden laptop so for now, I will go ahead and believe Trump and his team because time and again, they are the ones who have been telling the truth.

you can't be for real. is there a hole in the alternate universe? this is just crazy town.

About 30% of our country has fallen prey to deep propaganda at the hands of "newsmax" OAB, Fox, Breitbart, InfoWars, etc.

Including the Trumpy House Rs. This is deeply stupid.

House oversight Trumkins have zero interest in exercising oversight over the Tangerine Mussolini but god forbid the National Archivist simply attempt to do his job abu holding the prior administration accountable to preserving presidential records. Never go full banana republic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In early June he was asked to padlock the room. He heard nothing else and then the raid.I find it VERY hard to see how this shows that the DOJ had no other way to enforce the subpoena. This is a political witch hunt and it is going to be very hard for Garland to ever be viewed as a-political again. This is banana republic communist type stuff and if you can't see it, you are the people who were fine with things like Chernobyl and pograms and death camps. You are the ones who are so allegiant to your party and not to principles of freedom and democracy.

He was subpoenaed first!!!!
Subpoena Preceded Search Warrant in Push to Retrieve Material From Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/11/us/politics/trump-fbi-subpoena.html

Uhh. You are so thick. They asked him to put a lock on it. And he did and showed confirmation of the lock. That implies they will tell him what to do with the documents next. And they didn't. And they didn't come back until the raid. I mean, let's assume all the material is classified. If so, H=he SHOULD keep them safe and they should only be transferred to those with an appropriate clearance with appropriate chain of custody. He can't just put the documents in the mail or send them with UPS. SO if it is true that DOJ said "put a lock on them" and he did that, then if they didn't follow up with more instruction and jumped to a raid, this is crazy.

This is daft. The documents were required to be returned pursuant to a valid subpoena, notwithstanding the fact it was illegal to remove them in the first instance. Trump opted to keep classified materials in a non secured faculty for months thereafter. His lawyers could have notified NARA, or better yet NSD, at any time to come collect the documents. They chose not to take steps necessary to protect a national security risk. This comes in the wake of a spate of stories of unauthorized copies of NSA materials being sent to the WH in the last days of the administration by hacks Patel and Cohen-Watnick.

Years ago I worked at a defense contractor. One of our employees took a bunch of classified documents home. When we found out, we immediately reported it to DoD as we were required to do. The FBI was at her house within 24 hours with a warrant. No negotiations, no subpoenas. They just kicked in her door and took the documents back. She also lost her clearance and we fired her. Don't know if she was prosecuted. That's what happens to normal people who do this stuff. Trump got velvet glove treatment.

+1 Does no one remember what happened to Reality Winner?

5 years and 3 months jail time for 1 document.

[Anonymous]