| I took issue with Ng book “everything I never told you”. As a college professor it’s NEVER ok to have sex with a student. But it’s ok if you are POC? |
| Also life must have been very hard for Ng is Shaker Heights Ohio. Yes very rich area. Like mclean. Cry me a River. |
And yet every writing conference and seminar you go to has 15 speakers telling you the opposite. |
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Yaa Gyasi is not only not on social media, but does not even have a website.
Karin Tanabe, a local writer of historical fiction, has fewer than 4K followers on Twitter and fewer than 2K on IG. Her book is being adapted by Reese Witherspoon and Zendaya. I'm not published, but would like to be and follow the industry. What I've heard is that if you write an amazing fiction book you don't need a following, though the publishing house will still want you to help with promoting it. In general, recommendations are for at least 1K followers for fiction and 10K for NF. The latter requires more because people really buy if they are already following the expert. Don't get discouraged! |
I enjoyed the book and the TV series, but now they are tainted to me. Just as an aside - I recall that a difference between the book and the series was that Ng did not make the artist character a Black woman, but the series did. In stories I read, Ng said that she was thinking about having the character be a Black woman, but she was uncertain about her ability to write a Black woman's perspective. I thought that was interesting. But forget all that, because I'm never reading Ng again. |
| I'm pp and should mention that if you haven't yet read Gyasi and Tanabe what are you waiting for!! |
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I'm sure Tanabe didn't benefit from the fact that her father was Book World editor at Washington Post. |
You are mistaken. I am with a big five publisher, enjoying commercial success, and I just sold the TV rights to my book. One of my author friends, also with this big publisher, has even less social media presence than I do. A huge best-selling author that I met with last week to do an even with has a bare-bones presence, and definitely did not have one before she was published. I get that you know one friend who quit publishing. But I know many authors, most of whom are with big five publishers. And your narrative does not hold true. Sorry. Now it is a different story for non-fiction. |
It is easier to amass a small Twitter or Instagram following than it is to do the one thing that you really should be doing: working on your craft, writing. Publishing is tough and everyone wants a ticket to what "works". Nothing works. You write, you edit, you submit, you persist. If you keep at it, you will get things published. But there is absolutely no guarantee that you will ever make a living as a writer and that's just the economics of publishing. If you like social media and get something out of it (community, ideas, even validation) there's nothing wrong with it. But if it distracts you from the one thing you need to be doing -- writing -- it's not worth anything at all to you. There are lots of "writers" who Tweet a lot when they should be writing. Is that the kind of writer you want to be? Not me. One of my favorite writers is Ted Chiang. He writes short stories, mostly in the science fiction arena. He wrote an absolute masterpiece of a short story called Story of Your Life (seriously, find it and read it, it's gorgeous and a billion times better than anything produced by a Chunky Monkey). It was adapted into the movie Arrival with Amy Adams (even if you have seen that movie you should read the story, which is much, much more even thought the movie is good -- much of it is not adaptable to the screen because it's is conceptual but Chiang makes it feel real and immediate on the page, I cannot recommend it enough). Anyway, Chiange is an amazing writer who largely works in a form -- short fiction -- that is not very lucrative. I'm sure he got a decent paycheck for the film adaptation of his story, but he didn't write the screenplay so less than you think. He has made a living as a technical writer for many years, which supports his fiction. He is not, to my knowledge, on social media at all. His writing has changed my life and lives in my head and I recommend it to people all the time. You do not need to be on social media to be a successful writer. All you need to be a successful writer is to write something really good and then find someone to read it. That's it. Don't write to get rich -- there are much easier and more direct ways to do that! Write to write, and to be read. The end. |
I doubt that. I doubt agents and editors are telling fiction writers to beef up their social media. Please show me the agents and editors saying this. Look, I know a lot of published authors. I am in private FB groups for published authors. I have friends who are authors, and mentors. Not self-published but commercially successful. I've discussed this issue with my agent. If you have a huge SM following it can help you publicize your book, but it will not GET you an agent, and it will not GET your book published. It's a nice thing to have when it comes time to promote your book, but that's it. This narrative of needing to be all over SM does a disservice to writers who tend tone shy and introverted. Yes, you will be asked to promote your book, but plenty of writers don't. |
Ok, sure she writes really good books, but you want to cross off her off the list. How about local writer Kathleen Barber, who has fewer followers than Tanabe and has a book of her adapted for Apple TV. How about local writer Dolen Perkins-Valdez? Or, Saumya Dave, Kathleen Grissom, Jhumpa Lahiri, Jennifer McVeigh, or Finola Austin? What about Sarah Penner, who is now shortlisted as the BOTM award finalist for her debut novel, who says that she had zero following when she got the book deal? |
I think there is an issue here in the fact that there are writers and there is the business of publishing and they aren't always in step. Sure you can be a great writer and produce fantastic work and practically be as reclusive as Emily Dickinson. Then you have the publishing world-specifically the big firms. They are businesses out to make a profit and the art and quality of writing is in a sense a secondary concern. There is a reason why they would at least would prefer to work with an author who has a strong social media presence. It gives them some assurance that your book will be read and that your ideas have active and engaged readers out there while they spend money editing, printing and promoting your book. |
I am the PP with the two-book deal. I agree with you (and I know Sarah Penner!) There are so, so many authors one can list who had/have minimal SM but some people really need to believe it is necessary in order to justify not trying to get their own writing out there. Is it hard? Yes. It took me years to get published. I had a lot of learning to do -- both about craft and about business -- like how to write the kind of novel people will actually pay money for. I had years of rejection and then boom, success. And absolutely none of it had anything to do with SM, or "knowing" people. I had no connections. I wasn't on social media at all. As they say at the end of every #amwriting podcast (which I really recommend) keep your head in the game and your butt in the chair. Meaning, there is no subsistute for the work. Keep writing. |
What PP is telling you is that a large social media following can help but it isn't essential. She gave you the best advice you are ever going to get: if you want to be a writer, go write. Go hone your craft. Produce. Get better. Get good. Don't let yourself get distracted by things like not being on twitter enough. |