Another UChicago student murdered. 20-yo undergraduate dies after being shot on subway.

Anonymous
Terribly sad. What in the heck is going on in Chicago, the south side specifically? The city's mayor is a UChicago alumnus too, does she not know that side of town is war zone?

University of Chicago student dies days after being shot on CTA Green Line train in Washington Park

Max Solomon Lewis, 20, was picked up by paramedics at a Green Line station in the 300 block of East 51st Street around 6 p.m., police and the University of Chicago said.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2021/7/4/22563568/max-solomon-lewis-univeristy-chicago-train-cta-shot-gun-violence
Anonymous
Campus and the El are usually pretty safe, or as safe as any other big city. A lot of places are seeing a lot of violence this summer.
Anonymous
Hyde Park is not "safe". Lifers and woke professors put up with a lot of violent and especially property crimes, and pretend living in sketchy circumstances is normal. It's not. And the neighborhoods around Hyde Park are terrifying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hyde Park is not "safe". Lifers and woke professors put up with a lot of violent and especially property crimes, and pretend living in sketchy circumstances is normal. It's not. And the neighborhoods around Hyde Park are terrifying.


Stop with the "woke" you sound like an idiot.
Anonymous
That's so horrible. How incredibly sad. My condolences to his family and friends.
Anonymous
So is the area around the school unsafe? Your use of neighborhood names is not helpful to those of us unfamiliar with the city. My DC is thinking of applying to grad school, but would take safety into account.
Anonymous
Hyde Park is the neighborhood around campus. It is gorgeous and it is safe-ish. The problem is that the neighborhoods around Hyde Park and campus are poor and have a lot of crime.

Anonymous
South Side of Chicago has always been dangerous. Always will be, from the looks of it.

The rest of the city is just like any other city in America.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Hyde Park is the neighborhood around campus. It is gorgeous and it is safe-ish. The problem is that the neighborhoods around Hyde Park and campus are poor and have a lot of crime.



Campus is actually in two neighborhoods, both Hyde Park and Woodlawn, with Woodlawn being the furthest thing from safe. And yes, neighboring neighborhoods are even worse. And to get downtown you have to use public transport with and in direct proximity to criminals. And of course if you’re a criminal looking for easy convenient marks, are you going to go all the way downtown or target rich college kids a few blocks away?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Campus and the El are usually pretty safe, or as safe as any other big city. A lot of places are seeing a lot of violence this summer.


Nothing to do with summer. This is the second murder of UofC student so far in 2021. Back in January a doctoral student was murdered.
Anonymous
The subway line to UC has never been all that safe.
I went to Chicago in the mid-1980s and even then it was sketchy--not totally out of the question, but not great.

For those not familiar with Chicago:
The South Side is generally the poorer side, though there are some lovely neighborhoods too. Hyde Park is bordered on the east by Lake Michigan and on the west by Cottage Grove Ave. Then there's a park, and then the subway line is a few blocks more west. So the subway line is "close" to Hyde Park, but people who live in dense urban areas know that a mile can be a big difference.

Hyde Park itself has long been safe-ish...
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Hyde Park is the neighborhood around campus. It is gorgeous and it is safe-ish. The problem is that the neighborhoods around Hyde Park and campus are poor and have a lot of crime.



Campus is actually in two neighborhoods, both Hyde Park and Woodlawn, with Woodlawn being the furthest thing from safe. And yes, neighboring neighborhoods are even worse. And to get downtown you have to use public transport with and in direct proximity to criminals. And of course if you’re a criminal looking for easy convenient marks, are you going to go all the way downtown or target rich college kids a few blocks away?


I've never been nervous on the Metro from U of C. It's really safe. The bus lines can be a little scary, but no worse than a lot of cities.

If you're nervous about it, don't have your kid apply. Assuming that they can get it, there are plenty of other qualified kids who would love the chance to go.
Anonymous
What do you mean 'going on'? I went to UChicago ten years ago and the campus had its own SWAT police force and extreme security entrances to every dorm even then.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The subway line to UC has never been all that safe.
I went to Chicago in the mid-1980s and even then it was sketchy--not totally out of the question, but not great.

For those not familiar with Chicago:
The South Side is generally the poorer side, though there are some lovely neighborhoods too. Hyde Park is bordered on the east by Lake Michigan and on the west by Cottage Grove Ave. Then there's a park, and then the subway line is a few blocks more west. So the subway line is "close" to Hyde Park, but people who live in dense urban areas know that a mile can be a big difference.

Hyde Park itself has long been safe-ish...


There are two trains: the Metra and the CTA (the El). The Metra stops on campus and is safe. The El stop is Garfield, and you have to take a bus to get there. It's an El stop in a bad neighborhood. It's not very safe, unless you are using it during daylight commuting hours, and then it's safe-ish.
Anonymous
When my friends went to UChicago, they had a campus security service that would follow you in a car if you had to walk home after dark. I remember she was vaguely irritated because they wouldn't give you a ride -- just follow you, which meant you had to sometimes go out of your way to walk the right way on one-way streets, not cut through buildings, etc. Does anyone know if they still have this or something similar?

My school, is a ridiculously safe small town, actually had a campus security system that would just pick you up and drive you wherever on campus after dark. It was one of the work study jobs and it was a wildly popular service if it was cold out or if you were too drunk to safely make it across campus.
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