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Another UChicago student murdered. 20-yo undergraduate dies after being shot on subway.
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Anonymous
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My kid is going to be a first-year next year. We received emails on this. fyi the student was not targeted, it was a stray bullet. Independently, both my kid and I looked on google maps and it's ugh, so close to campus.
My kid is now a bit freaked. The other murder was off campus in an apartment building that is often rented by UChicago graduate students, so it was a little easier for my kid to psychologically distance. We are in Southern California and don't know Chicago well at all. I'm going to mention to my kid that the reason she's now aware of this stuff is because she's admitted. I've watched bad stuff go on around USC but she doesn't know about it because they don't send an email to her as she's not a student there. PP thanks for the info on the Metra vs. the El. |
Anonymous
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Metra is not on campus. And it’s basically commuter rail so it runs less frequently, especially on the weekends. Plus the school’s U-pass does not cover Metra — just CTA. So Metra isn’t really a substitute for buses or the L.
DD (Class of 2020) routinely took the L in and out of Hyde Park and used Uber or Lyft when they seemed like a better option. Never had any safety concerns (but grew up in DC so knows how to read/navigate urban environments). There’s also a UChicago shuttle that runs between campus and the south Loop on Friday and Saturday nights (and it stops at an L station that connects to 3 different subway lines and lots of bus routes). |
Anonymous
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This is very sad.
Reminds me of some murders of Penn students back when I was an undergrad. Also there was a Yale student murdered in New Haven this past January. And that awful stabbing of a Yale grad student in 2009 at a campus lab. Historically there are one to two dozen campus murders a year in the US. |
Anonymous
| Neither of these were campus murders. |
Anonymous
But very close to campus and where UChicago students frequent often. |
Anonymous
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I was reacting to the stat cited about frequency of campus murders. These deaths (and others like them) would not be included in that stat.
But both shootings were about a mile and a half from campus — one in an apartment building garage and the other while someone was sitting inside a CTA train. |
Anonymous
Broad daylight muggings on and around campus are not uncommon. When a perp mugs you, it's not like this is a huge scene, it happens quickly and quietly. Even if they don't harm you, they have your phone(s), so nobody is calling 911 right away. You'd have to run to an emergency phone. Perps know campus and city police, even if they happen to be nearby, can't engage in high speed pursuits. Many crime incidents are technically off campus and/or not in Hyde Park, so they are more easily brushed under the rug. Campus is a boring bubble about 10 miles south of downtown, so for kids to get anywhere exciting, they have to travel. When you leave the campus bubble, you leave that private police force's orbit. Every time you leave that bubble, especially if you take public transportation, you're putting yourself in harm's way. Ironically, the College gives kids U-Passes, encouraging them to put themselves in harm's way on public transportation. |
Anonymous
Bottom line two University of Chicago students were randomly murdered in south side Chicago in the last six months. |
Anonymous
| A lot of Chicago mugging and carjacking victims who comply are still being shot (at) by the criminals. They simply do not care. |
Anonymous
It's cultural. We have to understand. Lol. Prayers for this young man's family, I can't even imagine the senselessness of this crime. |
Anonymous
I don't know what it is. But I'm sure there will be apologists who post something like the city is so safe but if you do get stuck up by a poor kid with a gun, just comply. 
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Anonymous
In a nutshell, it's people having children that have no business having children. If you can't take the time to teach your children right from wrong and actually spend 18 years parenting them (that mean knowing where there are and who they are with) then you should not be allowed to have children. I grew up dirt poor, my parents sometimes worked three jobs just to keep the lights on (bless their hearts) and they never once abdicated their responsibilities as parents to others. They were educated, but highly responsible people, and I benefited from their parenting and went on to become a successful college professional. I cannot make any excuses for people being irresponsible in their parenting, just don't have children if you can't be an adult yourself first. Screw the culture crap. |
Anonymous
| Believe it or not many UChicago students and faculty wish for the college's massive private police force to be disbanded. |
Anonymous
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NP here. UChicago is kid's first choice for 2022
QUESTION for **those of you who know the area***** (there are a number of you who've posted so far) If you bring a car to UC, and you want to drive it from Hyde Park to, say, your internship downtown, or a restaurant etc ... are you at real risk for being carjacked in the neighborhood? or held up at gunpoint as you walk to car from your off campus apartment? will your car be stolen from private apartment garage? For context, kid lives in District of Columbia and has excellent street sense _for his age_. Knows a lot of street tricks to increase personal safety. But of course, nobody can overcome crossfire stray bullets and the like |
Anonymous
Chicago resident and my husband teaches at U of C and basically none of this this is true, FWIW. Violent crime *is* up in the city though. The off campus victim earlier this year was one of several people killed in a cross-city mass shooting spree; it wasn’t really typical Chicago crime. The more recent was a stray bullet, which is more common. |