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John jr or John the second
What’s the point? Unless the first is a significant public figure why would you name your kid after a random person? |
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This was always my feeling too
And pretty much everyone who has ever used Junior that I have talked to regretted it |
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Agree.
When the father is a significant public figure, it’s even worse. Frank Sinatra Jr will always be “the copy” or “the other one”. John Kennedy Jr was an exception. |
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Wait. What am I missing here?
Junior is a suffix after a full name of the father like John Thomas Smith and John Thomas Smith Junior. The second is when you name your child after a paternal grandfather (skipping father’s generation) like John Thomas Smith II No one adds a suffix if it’s just some random person’s name!! |
How is your father or grandfather a random person? People love and want to honor their relatives even if they aren’t famous. |
| Some people value family names. Nbd. |
Shouldn’t the child have been named its own name? |
Yes |
In many cultures, it is an honor to be named for a loved one who has passed on. Judaism, for example. Also, a tradition in many AA families. |
| Naming a child after yourself has always felt so narcissistic to me. Naming it the exact same name as a relative feels like denying the child a chance to be their own person. I think middle names honoring a favorite relative or valued person are a nice compromise, but I can't imagine not giving them at least part of a name that is all their own. |
That’s your perspective, but I grew up in a family where names were recycled and personally honor three female relatives with my names. I never felt like I wasn’t my own person or that I was expected to be like those women in personality or accomplishments. This has been going on in my family for generations and it’s much stranger to us to have a name not previously used by anyone else. One of my kids has a singleton name and she mentions this periodically. |
Usually they have nicknames so they do get their own identity: Robert Rob Bob Robbie Bobbie Bo Thomas Tom Tommy James Jim Jimmy I like it, even though I didn’t have a Junior for myself |
What name does no one else have? |
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I don’t like it either. It’s even worse when you get down to the “third” and people call him Trip or Trey. Those names just sound silly, especially on an adult man.
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This is rich considering there is a raging debate on another thread justifying naming your child a super popular trendy name like Sophia or Charlotte!!! Chances are your kid is always going to have someone’s name. |