University of California looking to reduce out of state students (LA Times today front page story)

Anonymous
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-05-25/bold-plan-for-uc-admissions-reduce-out-of-state-students

We are in-state, but I thought DCUM should know this. Here is the first part of it:

A bold plan for UC: Cut share of out-of-state students by half amid huge California demand

As the University of California faces huge demand for seats — and public outcry over massive rejections by top campuses in a record application year — state lawmakers are considering a plan to slash the share of out-of-state and international students to make room for more local residents.

The state Senate has unveiled a proposal to reduce the proportion of nonresident incoming freshmen to 10% from the current systemwide average of 19% over the next decade beginning in 2022 and compensate UC for the lost income from higher out-of-state tuition.

This would ultimately allow nearly 4,600 more California students to secure freshmen seats each year, with the biggest gains expected at UCLA, UC Berkeley and UC San Diego. The share of nonresidents at those campuses surpasses the systemwide average, amounting to a quarter of incoming freshmen. UC, however is pushing back, saying the plan would limit its financial flexibility to raise needed revenue and weaken the benefits of a geographically broad student body.

“It’s not about ending out-of-state students — they really add to the mix and the educational experience,” said Sen. John Laird (D-Santa Cruz), whose Senate budget subcommittee on education discussed the plan this month. “We just have to make sure there’s enough spaces for in-state students.”

The question of who should get a coveted seat in the nation’s premier public research university system has raged for years, as legislators are perennially pummeled by constituent complaints about UC access. The issue has ignited political fireworks, a scathing state audit, UC admission reforms and extensive policy work into how to accommodate the growing number of qualified California applicants amid limited funding and space.

Although the UC system is constitutionally autonomous and controls its own enrollment decisions, state lawmakers have used their power over purse strings to compel UC to adopt their directives.

Under political pressure, the UC regents in 2017 capped nonresident enrollment at 18% systemwide, with a higher share grandfathered in for UCLA, Berkeley, San Diego and Irvine.

But some legislators are saying that cap is still too high — and that this is an opportune year to begin driving it down because Gov. Gavin Newsom has proposed using some of the state’s record $75 billion surplus to give UC $805 million, which university leaders have applauded as the largest investment in the university system’s 153-year history.. . . .
Anonymous
hopefully Virginia has to do the same
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.
Anonymous
Lately?

There are a ton of NJ kids at every school. Have been for decades.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.


Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.


Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.


People care more about options being available for their kids than rankings.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.


Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.


People care more about options being available for their kids than rankings.


That’s why I only mentioned uva and not the other Virginia state schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.


Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.


Sadly, Michigan increased the number of oos students to net more money, not because Michigan seniors are dumber than the rest of the country. The state coffers have largely dried up and they need to get money from somewhere. I've been guessing that also happened to UVA. Wonder what will be the economic hit for CA systems.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.


the state could mandate it without increasing funding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.


the state could mandate it without increasing funding.


That would result in lower cashflow.
Anonymous
Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?

Out of state demand would be far lower for most Cal States than for UCs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same


Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.


the state could mandate it without increasing funding.


That would result in lower cashflow.


and?
Anonymous
UVA and U of M have monster endowments. I don’t know about the Cal schools.

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