University of California looking to reduce out of state students (LA Times today front page story)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Limited choices in nj

Not Virginia’s problem.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Seriously. I firmly believe the vast majority of seats at any state university should be reserved for in-state applicants.

State universities use full pay OOS students to help subsidize in-state students and overall operations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Seriously. I firmly believe the vast majority of seats at any state university should be reserved for in-state applicants.

State universities use full pay OOS students to help subsidize in-state students and overall operations.

Correct, but the article says the plan contains measures to “compensate” UC for that loss of revenue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.

People care more about options being available for their kids than rankings.

Not really, those same exact parents will stop sending their kids to the public flagship once the rankings start sliding down.

Same case with increased enrollment. Everyone wants increased enrollment to get their kid into college, but no one wants to send their kid to Penn State or Ohio State with 45,000+ enrollment and the expected decrease in selectivity and prestige.

Um, *plenty* of parents want to send their kids to those schools.

Kind of like the Yogi Berra saying "no one goes to that restaurant any more because it is too crowded".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Seriously. I firmly believe the vast majority of seats at any state university should be reserved for in-state applicants.

and the rest of the seats going to citizens and legal residents

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Great idea! I live in Pennsylvania. Hoping University of Pittsburgh does this too.

Pitt won’t do that - the reason is related to their “state-related charter”, they are not state owned.

This year’s freshman class is 44% OOS students.

https://www.pitt.edu/chancellor-search/state-related

Pitt and PSU aren’t actual state schools (and they’re not affordable).

[Anonymous]

I think state school seats should be 100% reserved for our in state kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think state school seats should be 100% reserved for our in state kids.

good thing nobody cares what you think

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There’s a state college option in Virginia that’s readily accessible to every in state student. You don’t have to dilute the University of Virginia. It’s in a league of its own, a highly prestigious and selective national university, and it should stay that way. For that, you need a geographically diverse student body. Not just a NOVA student body.

- parent of NOVA students attending UVA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.

That’s ridiculous. These schools could fill entire classes with qualified VA students. Standards would still remain high.

+ 1, these idiots are delusional.

[Anonymous]

UC schools need to address the impacted majors issue. It’s bad and affecting their on-time graduation rates.

I hope this doesn’t start happening at UVA.

[Anonymous]

California is large enough with 55 million people that Berkeley and UCLA could be 90% in-state and keep the top stats. Their population skews Asian as well, who tend to get rejected from top privates due to racial quotas.

Plenty of top STEM students in California go to other UC's - Santa Barbara, San Diego, etc. - and U. Washington, UT Austin, USC b/c they didn't get into Berkeley/UCLA.

It might hurt the less known UC's though since their top students would be going to Berkeley/UCLA.

And having 90% of the student population from one state, mostly from San Francisco Bay and Los Angelos metros, does not provide as good of a student experience as students from all over the world, IMO.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Seriously. I firmly believe the vast majority of seats at any state university should be reserved for in-state applicants.

and the rest of the seats going to citizens and legal residents

Thanks Drumph!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Seriously. I firmly believe the vast majority of seats at any state university should be reserved for in-state applicants.

and the rest of the seats going to citizens and legal residents

Thanks Drumph!

As an immigrant with kids born in the US, I agree with the PP. Foreigners can always join at the grad level. It's stupid policy to compromise on the education opportunities of our residents/citizens in exchange for revenue dollars from other countries..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:California is large enough with 55 million people that Berkeley and UCLA could be 90% in-state and keep the top stats. Their population skews Asian as well, who tend to get rejected from top privates due to racial quotas.

Plenty of top STEM students in California go to other UC's - Santa Barbara, San Diego, etc. - and U. Washington, UT Austin, USC b/c they didn't get into Berkeley/UCLA.

It might hurt the less known UC's though since their top students would be going to Berkeley/UCLA.

And having 90% of the student population from one state, mostly from San Francisco Bay and Los Angelos metros, does not provide as good of a student experience as students from all over the world, IMO.

It is about 40M.