University of California looking to reduce out of state students (LA Times today front page story)

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Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Noooo, people forget that schools like UVA are valued commodities because of selectivity. Don’t bring down the schools admission standards for instate kids with lower stats. This the reason that Michigan has increased in rankings while UNC has moved down. Michigan increased the number of oos students.

People care more about options being available for their kids than rankings.

Not really, those same exact parents will stop sending their kids to the public flagship once the rankings start sliding down.

Same case with increased enrollment. Everyone wants increased enrollment to get their kid into college, but no one wants to send their kid to Penn State or Ohio State with 45,000+ enrollment and the expected decrease in selectivity and prestige.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey California rising seniors, Alabama is always looking for OOS. (I'm NOT 'Roll Tide' poster)

But are you Roy Moore trolling for “chicks”?

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?

Out of state demand would be far lower for most Cal States than for UCs.

NO Cal States are reserved for Californians. Same with commmunity colleges. Very strict one year residency rules.

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Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?

Out of state demand would be far lower for most Cal States than for UCs.

NO Cal States are reserved for Californians. Same with commmunity colleges. Very strict one year residency rules.

This is a moot point. Other than maybe Cal Poly, OOS demand for Cal States (particularly with OOS tuition) is low.

[Anonymous]

San Diego State says hello.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Great idea! I live in Pennsylvania. Hoping University of Pittsburgh does this too.

Pitt won’t do that - the reason is related to their “state-related charter”, they are not state owned.

This year’s freshman class is 44% OOS students.

https://www.pitt.edu/chancellor-search/state-related

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Limited choices in nj

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well as a Californian, I hope this goes through.

Are you also willing to pay higher in state tuition?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?

Out of state demand would be far lower for most Cal States than for UCs.

NO Cal States are reserved for Californians. Same with commmunity colleges. Very strict one year residency rules.

This is a moot point. Other than maybe Cal Poly, OOS demand for Cal States (particularly with OOS tuition) is low.

+1. As I posted somewhere earlier, Cal Poly SBO is something like 16% OOS. But, Cal Poly Pomona is only 3% OOS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.

the state could mandate it without increasing funding.

That would result in lower cashflow.

and?

NP. Point would be that the university may not be able to afford the lower cashflow.

it's not like they'd have a choice

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the Cal State system being addressed as well?

Out of state demand would be far lower for most Cal States than for UCs.

NO Cal States are reserved for Californians. Same with commmunity colleges. Very strict one year residency rules.

This is a moot point. Other than maybe Cal Poly, OOS demand for Cal States (particularly with OOS tuition) is low.

+1. As I posted somewhere earlier, Cal Poly SBO is something like 16% OOS. But, Cal Poly Pomona is only 3% OOS.

SLO is a really, really nice place to live - hippy'ish college town surrounded by vineyards and a short drive to the central CA coastline.

Pomona is a smoggy, hot pit surrounded by concrete.

Hence the difference in OOS demand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

We need this. UVA, WM, VT, and JMU are admitting a ton of kids from NJ lately.

Limited choices in nj

That is a problem for NJ to solve. Not a problem for students in every other state to deal with. No one should have to send their kid to Rutgers because they didn’t get a spot at JMU.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.

the state could mandate it without increasing funding.

That would result in lower cashflow.

and?

NP. Point would be that the university may not be able to afford the lower cashflow.

it's not like they'd have a choice

They don’t have a choice, but the UV system and student organizations are opposing the legislation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:hopefully Virginia has to do the same

Our state legislature won't pay for it. Out of state tuition is needed because Virginia doesn't fund it's colleges the way California does.

the state could mandate it without increasing funding.

That would result in lower cashflow.

and?

NP. Point would be that the university may not be able to afford the lower cashflow.

it's not like they'd have a choice

They don’t have a choice, but the UV system and student organizations are opposing the legislation.

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