Official TJ Admissions Decisions Results for the Class of 2025

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

Only lame uses equity to get in. Money doesn’t get one to TJ, can you also list the ways one can foster educational success, doesn’t make any sense

That appears to be incorrect. By all accounts large numbers of accepted applicants attended a prep center where many reported having been given questions for the entrance exam. That sure sounds like purchasing admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

That’s where people disagree. In a public school sports, spelling bees, band, cheerleading, etc. usually have a try out and the top performers get selected. You just don’t want that to apply to TJ. I find your argument of striving for equity to be better placed by advocating shutting down TJ since there isn’t room for everyone. It’s not equitable if only a handful of the student body of Fairfax gets to go.

I see sports and bees as more trivial. Not everyone is even interested. And everyone knows the money, time, and effort goes into sports and other competitions. That amazing piano kid at your school? Tons of money, time, and effort poured into her. We know this. We also know that’s what’s happening with many of these super wonder TJ applicants. Where we fall off the rails is how this phenomenon is absolutely shutting poor and URM kids out of this amazing opportunity. They can not compete because those with money, time, and effort will continue to push the bar higher. Public education opportunities cannot favor the wealthy or disfavor certain minorities, which is exactly what is occurring.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

That’s where people disagree. In a public school sports, spelling bees, band, cheerleading, etc. usually have a try out and the top performers get selected. You just don’t want that to apply to TJ. I find your argument of striving for equity to be better placed by advocating shutting down TJ since there isn’t room for everyone. It’s not equitable if only a handful of the student body of Fairfax gets to go.

I see sports and bees as more trivial. Not everyone is even interested. And everyone knows the money, time, and effort goes into sports and other competitions. That amazing piano kid at your school? Tons of money, time, and effort poured into her. We know this. We also know that’s what’s happening with many of these super wonder TJ applicants. Where we fall off the rails is how this phenomenon is absolutely shutting poor and URM kids out of this amazing opportunity. They can not compete because those with money, time, and effort will continue to push the bar higher. Public education opportunities cannot favor the wealthy or disfavor certain minorities, which is exactly what is occurring.

This is where Asians tend to disagree. Despite being poor, you can study, work hard, and excel academically. If you are gifted, with that effort you rise to the top. Money doesn’t buy you a valedictorian. And stop saying “we know this” because it isn’t true. You are basically making a racial and financial quota argument. Fine - then embrace that with everything else including sports, band, cheerleading, …. If poor and URMs are being shut out of anything it is whatever is happening in K-8.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

That’s where people disagree. In a public school sports, spelling bees, band, cheerleading, etc. usually have a try out and the top performers get selected. You just don’t want that to apply to TJ. I find your argument of striving for equity to be better placed by advocating shutting down TJ since there isn’t room for everyone. It’s not equitable if only a handful of the student body of Fairfax gets to go.

I see sports and bees as more trivial. Not everyone is even interested. And everyone knows the money, time, and effort goes into sports and other competitions. That amazing piano kid at your school? Tons of money, time, and effort poured into her. We know this. We also know that’s what’s happening with many of these super wonder TJ applicants. Where we fall off the rails is how this phenomenon is absolutely shutting poor and URM kids out of this amazing opportunity. They can not compete because those with money, time, and effort will continue to push the bar higher. Public education opportunities cannot favor the wealthy or disfavor certain minorities, which is exactly what is occurring.

This is where Asians tend to disagree. Despite being poor, you can study, work hard, and excel academically. If you are gifted, with that effort you rise to the top. Money doesn’t buy you a valedictorian. And stop saying “we know this” because it isn’t true. You are basically making a racial and financial quota argument. Fine - then embrace that with everything else including sports, band, cheerleading, …. If poor and URMs are being shut out of anything it is whatever is happening in K-8.

If soccer were part of the public education system’s curriculum I absolutely would embrace a a system which didn’t see those with money and more time and support to shut out poor and URM kids.

[Anonymous]

Congrats to the Lottery Class of 2025 who got into the Karen Keys-Gamarra School of Diversity & Equity!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congrats to the Lottery Class of 2025 who got into the Karen Keys-Gamarra School of Diversity & Equity!

Sour grapes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

Only lame uses equity to get in. Money doesn’t get one to TJ, can you also list the ways one can foster educational success, doesn’t make any sense

That appears to be incorrect. By all accounts large numbers of accepted applicants attended a prep center where many reported having been given questions for the entrance exam. That sure sounds like purchasing admission.

Please use common sense, did everyone from that prep center got in, do you have the total number of students who went there, how many semi finalists. Based on your logic everyone who attended should have gotten in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Congrats to the Lottery Class of 2025 who got into the Karen Keys-Gamarra School of Diversity & Equity!

Remember, potential future applicants - we're serious about not letting people get away with buying admission anymore by spending thousands of dollars on prep. If you want to buy admission now, you'll have to donate your thousands directly to the school board members instead

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats to the Lottery Class of 2025 who got into the Karen Keys-Gamarra School of Diversity & Equity!

Remember, potential future applicants - we're serious about not letting people get away with buying admission anymore by spending thousands of dollars on prep. If you want to buy admission now, you'll have to donate your thousands directly to the school board members instead

Even if this were true and it isn't. A lottery would be a better way to dole out seats than using a fake merit system where only those who can afford to buy the test get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Congrats to the Lottery Class of 2025 who got into the Karen Keys-Gamarra School of Diversity & Equity!

Remember, potential future applicants - we're serious about not letting people get away with buying admission anymore by spending thousands of dollars on prep. If you want to buy admission now, you'll have to donate your thousands directly to the school board members instead

Even if this were true and it isn't. A lottery would be a better way to dole out seats than using a fake merit system where only those who can afford to buy the test get in.

My kids went there and we didn't "buy the test." The old system put together a student body that became the #1 ranked high school in America. Sorry you don't like their ethnicity and you want to lower the bar to meet your SJW goals, but performance is the best metric of merit when competing for any scare resource. Arguing for each middle school to get seats is fine as the entire county is the tax base, but then throwing on bonus points for "experience factors" to lower the number of Asians picked from the at large pool is not OK. Sad that you feel otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Curie apparently got at least 95 seats in the class of 2025. The “buying” of seats (whatever that is!) was not particularly impacted by the new policy.

Families can move. Families can self-classify as low income. Families can hire a nanny that speaks something other than English and classify their child as ESOL. It's still entirely gameable.

The only real answer is to either 1) go to a lottery or 2) change TJ to an academy model.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curie apparently got at least 95 seats in the class of 2025. The “buying” of seats (whatever that is!) was not particularly impacted by the new policy.

Families can move. Families can self-classify as low income. Families can hire a nanny that speaks something other than English and classify their child as ESOL. It's still entirely gameable.

The only real answer is to either 1) go to a lottery or 2) change TJ to an academy model.

X1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curie apparently got at least 95 seats in the class of 2025. The “buying” of seats (whatever that is!) was not particularly impacted by the new policy.

Families can move. Families can self-classify as low income. Families can hire a nanny that speaks something other than English and classify their child as ESOL. It's still entirely gameable.

The only real answer is to either 1) go to a lottery or 2) change TJ to an academy model.

True. Anything to kill the top ranked high school in the country out of sheer spite. Let's come up with lies, innuendo and forget actual performance of the school and the outstanding student body that the previous race blind process created.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Curie apparently got at least 95 seats in the class of 2025. The “buying” of seats (whatever that is!) was not particularly impacted by the new policy.

Families can move. Families can self-classify as low income. Families can hire a nanny that speaks something other than English and classify their child as ESOL. It's still entirely gameable.

The only real answer is to either 1) go to a lottery or 2) change TJ to an academy model.

True. Anything to kill the top ranked high school in the country out of sheer spite. Let's come up with lies, innuendo and forget actual performance of the school and the outstanding student body that the previous race blind process created.

If it ain’t woke, it’s broke!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Public education =/= sports.

In any way.

However there are many ways you can foster your child’s educational success with money. It’s just a public high school should at least strive for equity in admissions.

That’s where people disagree. In a public school sports, spelling bees, band, cheerleading, etc. usually have a try out and the top performers get selected. You just don’t want that to apply to TJ. I find your argument of striving for equity to be better placed by advocating shutting down TJ since there isn’t room for everyone. It’s not equitable if only a handful of the student body of Fairfax gets to go.

I see sports and bees as more trivial. Not everyone is even interested. And everyone knows the money, time, and effort goes into sports and other competitions. That amazing piano kid at your school? Tons of money, time, and effort poured into her. We know this. We also know that’s what’s happening with many of these super wonder TJ applicants. Where we fall off the rails is how this phenomenon is absolutely shutting poor and URM kids out of this amazing opportunity. They can not compete because those with money, time, and effort will continue to push the bar higher. Public education opportunities cannot favor the wealthy or disfavor certain minorities, which is exactly what is occurring.

This type of comment acts like the other FCPS high schools are garbage. They just aren't and everyone attending FCPS gets to take AP level classes whereas not everyone gets to participate on the baseball team even at all. Going to TJ requires a ton of work. And a specific interest which many people even upper income people don't have. If you don't get into TJ you can still take an AP course at your high school. The idea that everyone must be given rights to an elite stem school is wacked.

If they've been identified as gifted and interested in stem to the point of making it a focus of their life in middle, lets find a way to get them into TJ. Otherwise, I really don't care what your race or income is. You don't really need to go there.