Trump - “Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look at Dominion Republic - same people, same nation, and they are thriving. Haiti on the other hand is a shithole, Trump is right. Unreal level of corruption and crime, poverty + earthquake that devastated already struggling country.

Who helped Haiti to remain a shithole after the earthquake? That's right, Hillary Clinton and her hubby. She collected $500 million dollars dedicated to Haiti disaster recovery through her phony foundation and what people of Haiti received? Next to zilch.
How many houses did she build? Where is the hospital that she promised to build? People of Haiti know very well that she stole from them.
And she has guts to Tweet about the earthquake. Better tell us where is the Haitian money, not-a-racist Hilly? Chelsea's $3 m wedding and XXXX m condo, what else did you buy?

Christian nation vs Voodoo nation who beheaded all the French & light-skinned mullatos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:>de facto open borders
>welfare state

Pick one - you can't have both. There was no welfare state when my Russian Jew ancestors came here. There was barely a k-12 public school system!

And we DEFINITELY want to go back to that period when kids went to work at age 14, the majority of Americans lived in poverty (look it up), average work week was 60 hours. MAGA!

DP. Way to miss the point by a mile.

The point is that when my ancestors (also Russian Jews) came here, when Ellis island welcomed the poor and hungry, they had to support themselves. THAT is why the borders were so open! If half of all immigrants quickly ended up on welfare, with American taxpayers supporting them, you would have seen the borders shut.

So, to reiterate the other PP's point, you can have either a) a wide open immigration policy or b) a generous welfare system in which all needy get food, housing, medical, and other benefits. You cannot have both.

We can debate immigration all day, but for me the point of this whole issue is this...

We have a president who has demeaned the role he occupies by inappropriate language (and most probably, sentiment) and when he’s called out on it, doesn’t even have the balls to own his mistake, never mind apologise for it.

Lol the reason is he does not think its a mistake and he does not care if you or others are butthurt by it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:>de facto open borders
>welfare state

Pick one - you can't have both. There was no welfare state when my Russian Jew ancestors came here. There was barely a k-12 public school system!

And we DEFINITELY want to go back to that period when kids went to work at age 14, the majority of Americans lived in poverty (look it up), average work week was 60 hours. MAGA!

DP. Way to miss the point by a mile.

The point is that when my ancestors (also Russian Jews) came here, when Ellis island welcomed the poor and hungry, they had to support themselves. THAT is why the borders were so open! If half of all immigrants quickly ended up on welfare, with American taxpayers supporting them, you would have seen the borders shut.

So, to reiterate the other PP's point, you can have either a) a wide open immigration policy or b) a generous welfare system in which all needy get food, housing, medical, and other benefits. You cannot have both.

We can debate immigration all day, but for me the point of this whole issue is this...

We have a president who has demeaned the role he occupies by inappropriate language (and most probably, sentiment) and when he’s called out on it, doesn’t even have the balls to own his mistake, never mind apologise for it.

DP. Interestingly I agree. I see nothing wrong with what he said and think it should be used as a springboard to decide what kind of people we want to see as the next generation of ummigrants. He shouldn’t be guilted into walking back the truth.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look at Dominion Republic - same people, same nation, and they are thriving. Haiti on the other hand is a shithole, Trump is right. Unreal level of corruption and crime, poverty + earthquake that devastated already struggling country.

Who helped Haiti to remain a shithole after the earthquake? That's right, Hillary Clinton and her hubby. She collected $500 million dollars dedicated to Haiti disaster recovery through her phony foundation and what people of Haiti received? Next to zilch.
How many houses did she build? Where is the hospital that she promised to build? People of Haiti know very well that she stole from them.
And she has guts to Tweet about the earthquake. Better tell us where is the Haitian money, not-a-racist Hilly? Chelsea's $3 m wedding and XXXX m condo, what else did you buy?

I know that you like to blame Hillary for everything, but Haiti’s history is so much more complicated than that. I think you’ll find this enlightening- please take a minute and give it a read.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2018/01/12/this-is-how-ignorant-you-have-to-be-to-call-haiti-a-shithole/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.7b3732f500a8

Ok so I am one of those ignorrant Americans who had no idea we invaded and occupied Haiti for almost 20 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look at Dominion Republic - same people, same nation, and they are thriving. Haiti on the other hand is a shithole, Trump is right. Unreal level of corruption and crime, poverty + earthquake that devastated already struggling country.

Who helped Haiti to remain a shithole after the earthquake? That's right, Hillary Clinton and her hubby. She collected $500 million dollars dedicated to Haiti disaster recovery through her phony foundation and what people of Haiti received? Next to zilch.
How many houses did she build? Where is the hospital that she promised to build? People of Haiti know very well that she stole from them.
And she has guts to Tweet about the earthquake. Better tell us where is the Haitian money, not-a-racist Hilly? Chelsea's $3 m wedding and XXXX m condo, what else did you buy?

Christian nation vs Voodoo nation who beheaded all the French & light-skinned mullatos.

Yep. there was a white genocide that liberals are too shy to mention ))))

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:^ I used the term “National Review type” because you did. I agree with the NR on a majority of issues. I also believe pockets of parts of the Rust Belt will have a resurgence.

I know that’s a bet JD Vance is making. Let the masses move to Cleveland.

the only bet jd vance is making is establishing residence to run for future office.

he's a charlatan

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:>de facto open borders
>welfare state

Pick one - you can't have both. There was no welfare state when my Russian Jew ancestors came here. There was barely a k-12 public school system!

And we DEFINITELY want to go back to that period when kids went to work at age 14, the majority of Americans lived in poverty (look it up), average work week was 60 hours. MAGA!

DP. Way to miss the point by a mile.

The point is that when my ancestors (also Russian Jews) came here, when Ellis island welcomed the poor and hungry, they had to support themselves. THAT is why the borders were so open! If half of all immigrants quickly ended up on welfare, with American taxpayers supporting them, you would have seen the borders shut.

So, to reiterate the other PP's point, you can have either a) a wide open immigration policy or b) a generous welfare system in which all needy get food, housing, medical, and other benefits. You cannot have both.

We can debate immigration all day, but for me the point of this whole issue is this...

We have a president who has demeaned the role he occupies by inappropriate language (and most probably, sentiment) and when he’s called out on it, doesn’t even have the balls to own his mistake, never mind apologise for it.

Lol the reason is he does not think its a mistake and he does not care if you or others are butthurt by it.

If he doesn’t think it’s a mistake, then he should have no problem confirming he did use that word. The fact that he won’t own those words confirms that our president is spineless.

[Anonymous]

What a horrible thing for the President of the United States to say about our friendly, foreign allied nations.

Makes me ashamed to be an American.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ I used the term “National Review type” because you did. I agree with the NR on a majority of issues. I also believe pockets of parts of the Rust Belt will have a resurgence.

I know that’s a bet JD Vance is making. Let the masses move to Cleveland.

the only bet jd vance is making is establishing residence to run for future office.

he's a charlatan

Does JD Vance’s wife work in Ohio? I think she’s a doctor.

[Anonymous]

His comments were vile, to be sure. But he does raise an uncomfortable question: We live in a city where the AA unemployment rate is approaching 14% and less than 10% of AA high school students are proficient in reading and math. Against that backdrop, do we have the resources To continue to take high numbers of unskilled and uneducated immigrants?

[Anonymous]

How could anyone defend Trump’s statements? He is disgusting. Any defenders are disgusting too!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His comments were vile, to be sure. But he does raise an uncomfortable question: We live in a city where the AA unemployment rate is approaching 14% and less than 10% of AA high school students are proficient in reading and math. Against that backdrop, do we have the resources To continue to take high numbers of unskilled and uneducated immigrants?

Immigration has nothing to do with the problems of AA/Black people. White people are the cause of AA and what will Trump possibly do about it?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How could anyone defend Trump’s statements? He is disgusting. Any defenders are disgusting too!

I agree. He is supposed to be the President of the United States and Leader of the Free World. You do NOT insult fellow trading countries like that. He is encouraging the growth of ISIS and killing American exports.

Further he is simply embarrassing our country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you don’t think of your own country as a “shithole” why would there even be all these discussions about potentially millions of parents ABANDONING their CHILDREN in the United States, because they simply cannot fathom taking them to said country?

You defend the indefensible. Shame on you.

Honestly he's right though. If you import the third world here the US is going to become more like the third world.

I agree with that. We just came from over 3 week trip and visited couple of countries but one of the 3rd world country did looked like a shithole. But the 2nd one wasn’t bad. I won’t name which countries but it is possible America could become like third world countries in some areas.

Americans need to wake up or could get it what they wish for . You might ask who’s they: the people who wants to keep/bring people from third world countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How could anyone defend Trump’s statements? He is disgusting. Any defenders are disgusting too!

I agree. He is supposed to be the President of the United States and Leader of the Free World. You do NOT insult fellow trading countries like that. He is encouraging the growth of ISIS and killing American exports.

Further he is simply embarrassing our country.

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