So what happens when the Federal government can’t issue Nov Food Stamps?

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I don’t think non citizens are SNAP eligible, actually. Troll fail
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Everyone who is so concerned about this spending must be furious about the fact that even in a shutdown we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel and Argentina. Right?
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is so concerned about this spending must be furious about the fact that even in a shutdown we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel and Argentina. Right?
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And the farmer bailouts. Sure they are super angry about those.
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15.7 million Americans who are working, receive SNAP, and that does not include military families.

But sure, lazy Americans, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is so concerned about this spending must be furious about the fact that even in a shutdown we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel and Argentina. Right?
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And the farmer bailouts. Sure they are super angry about those.


Oh yes, they’re definitely angry about all of it. They’re absolutely taking to the streets over it /s

This country has a big problem. It’s lost its heart.



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Anonymous wrote:A federal judge is going to order the administration to use the emergency funds that Congress already appropriated for this:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/10/30/snap-funds-government-shutdown/

Just another example of lawless behavior by this administration, and absolutely dereliction of duty in the House of Representatives.

If they won’t distribute the funds, I think all of the red state voters who rely on SNAP need to get up close and personal with their reps while they’re vacationing at home.


Judge needs to be told publicly and in no uncertain terms that they have no power and are inserting themselves where the executive and legislative branches are in control.

Remove her from the bench if need be. The judicial branch cannot impinge on the other branches.


Nope. Trump is illegally withholding the funds. Congress provided these dollars and as recently as September Trump admin said they would use them during shutdown.


What exactly does the PP think the judiciary is for???
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Is no one worried about the major spigot that’s about to get turned off to our food production system?
SNAP was just a middle man to funnel money to grocery stores/food manufacturers/producers.
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Anonymous wrote:7 of those are crap. Candy? JFC, I never got candy as a kid and my parents were loaded.


And 13 things are regular staples. I’d be fine blocking candy and soft drinks from purchases. I don’t have a problem with frozen novelties or snacks or cookies.


You should care. 24% of low income kids are obese, not just overweight, but obese. Compared to 10% obesity rate of kids not low income. It’s because they are and they are over consuming junk food, by a lot. Snap is given specifically to buy heathy foods and it’s being used to purchase junk.

This is an old article. Obesity rate has increased from 20% to 24% since 2015

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2015/december/gap-in-obesity-rates-between-low-and-high-income-children-widens-with-age



This thread is about SNAP being cut off. Can you stop? Do you think people should starve because they aren't buying food you approve?


You think people consuming 200% of the calories their body needs are at risk for starving?


Fat people still have to eat, and yes they can starve. What is wrong with you?


Of course, but less food. You think people receiving snap can buy zero food at all without snap?


And they be even more likely to buy crap food because it is cheap! They’re not going to buy ground beef or milk like they do now.

They’re going to buy ramen packs and other cheap crap.


There are many, many heathy options that are cheap, if not cheaper than junk. People buy the junk because of convenience and preference, not price.

Yep, this. We’ve gone over and over this. A 10 pound bag of potatoes is $5 at Aldi. Loaded Baked potatoes make a great meal, and you can make a ton of other sides. Or potato soup. These are all things I eat btw. Dry beans and rice are cheap. You can make all kind of meals with that and various fixing. A family pack of chicken thighs is $6 at Aldi. A pork roast is around 12 and makes a ton of meat.


And how should a family living out of their car prepare those things? Or maybe in a motel room with just a microwave? Do you have any idea how many thousands of people are in exactly those circumstance or that car living is on the rise in America?


It's willful ignorance. They want to believe people on SNAP don't work, sit around in their free apartments, playing on their Obama phones, popping out kids, paying for manicures and tattoos, and eating junk food all day living it up on government assistance.

Idk how many times it has to be said that this welfare queen image you have is not real. It was made up to manipulate you. The Nixon and Reagan administration's are on record admitting they made it up.


There are no people on SNAP who don’t want to work, buy or rent a stable home, better themselves, etc. They are desperate for it in fact.

They have all, along with their kids, simply fallen on hard times or there are no suitable jobs available to them in their area. That’s all.


So, NBC4 DC just did a story on people on SNAP considering giving up their pets. One woman interviewed estimated she spends nearly $400 on her dog. Seriously?

I feel sorry for those who really need these benefits but something is terribly wrong when people on SNAP can afford to take on the expense of pets when you consider food, worming, flea meds, yearly vaccinations & care in case something goes wrong.


People have physical and emotional needs. Being poor sucks and it's lonely and isolating. Many poor people have pets for various reasons, including for their emotional health. Why do you begrudge these people any speck of happiness they may have?

No sodas, no candy, no chips, no TV, no cell phones, no car, no self care, no kids, no pets. They should just work, eat rice and beans in the dark, and die.


I am not rich, but I am I guess middle class and a pet is really not in my budget right now. So we don’t have one. I would also love a weekly massage for self care, but I can’t afford it. Why should I subsidize someone else having a pet??


You aren't. You pay taxes to be part of our society. You don't have a pet because you've chosen to prioritize other things. Do you honestly want to trade places with the person on SNAP whose pound puppy is the only source of love and companionship they have? You people are like toddlers, whining about the little bit someone has, when you already have everything you need.


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So I disagree with this perspective completely and I'm a liberal and have a lot of sympathy for those less fortunate. I donate all the time. I'm for universal healthcare and believe in contributing to the whole of society in making my community a healthy and happy one.

However..

There is such a thing called decision making and some are better than others in this skill set. So I get that everyone wants to feel loved and appreciated and love animals but if I'm on SNAP, my first priority should NOT be relying on SNAP till the end of time! At some point I'm responsible for my own needs. If I need help that's one thing, if I am simply making decisions to make my self feel good and use govt funds to sustain myself then I'm failing at prioritizing correctly and at decision making in general.

I fear many have an inherent prob with SNAP because so many abuse their privileges. When you have a public system in a Democracy as rich as ours, people are going to mess up a lot and waste a lot of safety nets financially. It's a different culture elsewhere but there is such a streak of entitlement culturally here that I'm not sure SNAP should not be completely overhauled.

I believe some will impact tragically without SNAP but a lot will be just fine. Thankfully many states are able to provide. We really do have a prob in US of inequality but also of waste and useless govt overreach - not everything is right with govt even as I disagree with Trump and Rep approach in managing govt functionality.


For the love of god learn some basic facts about snap. 50% are on for a year or less. 67% are off within 2 years. The 1/3 who are on longer tend to be the elderly and disabled.

Benefits are fairly modest. Only the poorest of poor live off SNAP alone for food purchases. They’re the ones most likely to be homeless without many options for how to prepare their food.



Right. It’s all so neat, tidy and perfectly administered, right?


This is the hill you’re going to die on wrt government spending???? We financed a genocide ffs.


Sure. I mean, $145 billion a year with this level of fraud and abuse is nothing, right?


What level of fraud and abuse? The fraud and abuse that exists in your imagination?

Let's talk about corporate fraud and abuse. Let's talk about tax loopholes and cheating of the 1%. We KNOW that exists, and we do nothing about it.


Fraud like confiscating $1.5 Trillion from income tax payers so you can keep throwing money at the medical industry and it can keep demanding more. It's disgusting.
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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is so concerned about this spending must be furious about the fact that even in a shutdown we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel and Argentina. Right?
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And the farmer bailouts. Sure they are super angry about those.


Oh yes, they’re definitely angry about all of it. They’re absolutely taking to the streets over it /s

This country has a big problem. It’s lost its heart.





Yes, we know. If you don't get free food, free housing, free transportation, free education, free medical, free universal basic income, free this that and the other thing, then the country has "lost its heart".

GMAFB
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Anonymous wrote:For some idiotic reason, Dems are mortified when people point out the very real fact that many people who get food money from the government in the form of SNAP & other programs can afford cigarettes, tattoos, fake nails, pets, and other things most of us would consider optional.

And it bugs us just a little bit that our tax dollars go to them to buy food when their purchases of these optional items would seem to indicate they actually COULD be buying their own food.

This in no way applies to people who really need SNAP $. We are happy that they get SNAP, & are confident there are enough charities out there which will feed them if SNAP payments cease. [b]

But your tiny brains can’t handle that distinction, so you insist on claiming MAGAs want everyone on SNAP to go without food.


Food banks provide a mere fraction of what SNAP dos. Anyone who runs a food bank will tell you they cannot fill the gap without SNAP.

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Anonymous wrote:Everyone who is so concerned about this spending must be furious about the fact that even in a shutdown we continue to send billions of dollars to Israel and Argentina. Right?
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And the farmer bailouts. Sure they are super angry about those.


Oh yes, they’re definitely angry about all of it. They’re absolutely taking to the streets over it /s

This country has a big problem. It’s lost its heart.





Yes, we know. If you don't get free food, free housing, free transportation, free education, free medical, free universal basic income, free this that and the other thing, then the country has "lost its heart".

GMAFB


Actually, yeah. It’s called charity. And we owe it to each other when someone falls on hard times. I though you cons were Christians?
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I don’t think non citizens are SNAP eligible, actually. Troll fail


Only certain categories of non-citizens are SNAP eligible (legal refugee status) which Trump has been getting rid of anyhow. And I believe they only represented less than 2% of SNAP recipients. But for that, Trump is punishing the 98% of SNAP recipients who are American citizens.
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Anonymous wrote:For some idiotic reason, Dems are mortified when people point out the very real fact that many people who get food money from the government in the form of SNAP & other programs can afford cigarettes, tattoos, fake nails, pets, and other things most of us would consider optional.

And it bugs us just a little bit that our tax dollars go to them to buy food when their purchases of these optional items would seem to indicate they actually COULD be buying their own food.

This in no way applies to people who really need SNAP $. We are happy that they get SNAP, & are confident there are enough charities out there which will feed them if SNAP payments cease.

But your tiny brains can’t handle that distinction, so you insist on claiming MAGAs want everyone on SNAP to go without food.


But the billionaires? They’re cool?


So this is my biggest issue with Dems - you don't know how to argue. I HATE fing Trump. Mortifying disturbing as is all his crew. Incl all the sold out tech billionaires who bow down to him for favor.

BUT - one thing is not the other!

Just because I think SNAP can do with an overhaul does not mean billionaires are cool! You can't just suggest I'm wrong about both things that really are 2 separate subjects altogether.

SNAP is being used in the wrong way by we don't know how many are on it. Does not mean we should stop helping folks who need it, does not have anything to do with billionaires and does not mean everyone on SNAP sucks. It simply means that there are most DEF those who take advantage of the system as it happens in every system except as a country we don't really have the budget to continue wasteful spending. It would be good to come up with a different way if business as usual.

I'm not sure why you insist on attacking people who are not against a system like SNAP but still pointing out it may not be the awesome program you think it is simply because it exists!


You keep arguing about straw men. Sounds like your beef is with Republicans.

Your arguments seem to be

1) People are on it too long and should be limited. They already are! The law limits able bodied adults to only 3 years and 2/3 are off within 2 years. You don’t acknowledge that and cling to some welfare queen myth.

2) you don’t like what people buy. Again, plenty of of good reasons to let people by what they need but Big Ag and Big Food are the main reason why they can buy soda, candy and other junk. Take it up with republicans.

3) you think there is too much fraud. Take it up with republicans. States are trying to cut down on payment error rates. Republicans literally passed a law that incentivizes states to increase payment errors to 15% or higher.

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I don’t think non citizens are SNAP eligible, actually. Troll fail


Non citizens with legal status are eligible, but undocumented people are not eligible.
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