SSFS Will Stay Open

Anonymous
A part of me is so angry that the board pulled the plug with 460 students. Imagine if they had reached out for help first most of those would have stayed, maybe even all. But instead the ensuing panic and ridiculousness made us lose more so we’re now at 320 or roughly half of what our school normally sits at.

They can it “strong enrollment” for 25-26. Really?? 50% of the historical number? That’s strong. That’s a lot of lost revenue. 460 to 320 is a lot of lost revenue. Revenue that just burdens donors more.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


+1. I can't in good conscience urge parents to check out the school just yet. Maybe in a year or two, once we know how a much smaller school is doing financially and educationally.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


+1 and we reenrolled. I can't in good conscience try to sway others. There are just too many factors, and they're different for every family.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A part of me is so angry that the board pulled the plug with 460 students. Imagine if they had reached out for help first most of those would have stayed, maybe even all. But instead the ensuing panic and ridiculousness made us lose more so we’re now at 320 or roughly half of what our school normally sits at.

They can it “strong enrollment” for 25-26. Really?? 50% of the historical number? That’s strong. That’s a lot of lost revenue. 460 to 320 is a lot of lost revenue. Revenue that just burdens donors more.


It’s maddening for sure. Despite that I am feeling hopeful about the future long term.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.


Yet you're still here. Pot meet kettle.
Anonymous
We re-enrolled. That action speaks for itself. I have no problem telling any parent that asks that I am feeling good about the school. Again, anyone asking is likely asking because we actually go there.
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Anonymous wrote:Any online forum creates echo chamber conversations, we all know this by now. But humans have to get their info somehow in this exhausting ever changing world!! What has happened this last month at SSFS is worthy of a book, so many players and facets that are both unique and really quite ubiquitous in the communities and organizations we create. Good news is that while the quietly and not so quietly fractures grew and finally gave out, creating chaos that would have been so wonderful to avoid, this has led to a strong "build back better" surge of financial and leadership supports and is drawing in talent. It may seem like a Cinderella story, but as any B-Ball fan knows, come from behind wins are all the sweeter, and a win all the same.

If you are curious about the school, which is really very very great all drama aside, schedule a tour or talk live to a few families. Also you can come experience some real drama, for free, at the upcoming Upper School Musical/Community Play Twelfth Night The Musical. This a farcical Shakespeare play about miscommunication, love triangles, and more, that lead to great lessons in perspective taking and empathy before judgement. Set to a rhythm and blues soundtrack. There are three shows, 2 evening May 30 & 31, one matinee Sat 31st. The school has a terrific arts program and a gorgeous performing Arts center with an atrium lobby displaying the Student Visual Arts showcase. Come check it out.....there are some openings at SSFS for new students

https://www.ssfs.org/arts/community-play/2025-community-play

Kathleen: Biased but pleased SSFS parent for 18 years, and still going!


As a Jimmy V fan, I love the "Cinderella Story" reference! Go Beests!


Jim Valvano! Yes! Brings back childhood memories of watching March madness with my Dad!
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.


Yet you're still here. Pot meet kettle.


But you're the only one preaching ethics. So, wrong idiom.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t see the point of engaging with anyone who uses all-caps level of dramatization. For me, the decision of where to send my kids is informed by own critical thinking/assessment and not the views of anonymous posters who dabble in extremes (whether it is to say the school is horrid or some form of utopia because the truth is always more nuanced than these extremes on either side).


+1
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.


That’s an odd rationalization. I gave a purposefully over the top example just to make a point that encouraging ppl to do something risky is just not something I’m comfortable doing even if ultimately it’s up to them to take the risk or not. I was not saying that coming to ssfs is jumping off a cliff.

However your defensiveness is odd to me. Instead of attacking on the basis of some nonsensical basis that you didn’t like my analogy example. Tell us why you like advertising a risk to unsuspecting new families? Do you not think that’s a bit disingenuous?
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.


That’s an odd rationalization. I gave a purposefully over the top example just to make a point that encouraging ppl to do something risky is just not something I’m comfortable doing even if ultimately it’s up to them to take the risk or not. I was not saying that coming to ssfs is jumping off a cliff.

However your defensiveness is odd to me. Instead of attacking on the basis of some nonsensical basis that you didn’t like my analogy example. Tell us why you like advertising a risk to unsuspecting new families? Do you not think that’s a bit disingenuous?


Unless parents have been like bing on a deserted island, they are not unsuspecting when it comes to SSFS. They are also capable of making their own decisions. We are staying so we obviously like the school and think it's a good fit for our kids and I have no problem explaining that to anyone who asks. Your "points" continue to be weak. You can say whatever you want about SSFS. You do you.
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Anonymous wrote:Why would a new family WANT to check out a school that is barely scraping by with all new admin (with the exception of the US head) with no institutional knowledge of the school. There’s SO MUCH risk heading into next year. It’s a complete start over, which SSFS desperately needs, but I would caution ANY FAMILY from being that guinea pig. I can see why an established family is willing to endure that risk, but a new family? I’d wait and see ….


I disagree with your characterization of the school and your perception of the risk. However, the bottom line is that new families are perfectly capable of deciding for themselves.


Yes so no reason to invite them to check us out. “See how great we are!” That the salesman pitch that irritates me (btw I am a parent of the school). I know why I’m staying but no one who doesn’t need to needs the risk. So I don’t need to tell them to check us out. I feel bad saying that to ppl. That’s just me I guess


You still don't get it and that's worrisome for many reasons. We can and should invite all parents to check us out. They can decide FOR THEMSELVES if it's a risk or not. Your suggestion is to do no marketing or admissions events. Forgive me but that's seriously stupid for any school and particularly for a school that does want new families. Move on please. We clearly don't agree and I question how "real" you are.


Clearly our ethics differ. I did a lot of marketing for the school. Right now - just at this moment - in good conscience I can’t. Im not going to tell ppl not to come if they decide to of course. But advertising I can’t do right now. I will fe honest of ppl ask. Yes the school has great teachers. But completely fried admin. A donor that is saving us and I don’t actually know how it looks long term. That’s just the truth. So I can’t advertise. That’s the only distinction I am making. It’s like I also don’t try to get my friends interested in get rich schemes. My sense of risk - makes me not advertise things to other people - that I feel carry a risk. If you’re saying coming to ssfs next year carries no risk then that’s different.

My personal ethics tell me not to invite people to take a risk. When ssfs seemed like no risk, I was at every open house, parent forum, recruitment event that happened. If you don’t want to believe me that’s fine. But I was deeply involved with the PA and was one of the schools true champions. Because I didn’t feel that I was inviting people to take a risk.

I just don’t see zero risk with the school next year. As such I will not advertise. I will not invite. If people solicit information from me I will give them my honest opinion and impressions. But invite them I will not do. Again - I see a non zero risk with the school next year. I just do. If you don’t great. If you don’t find it hard to invite people to take risks that’s your personal preference. Mine is to take risks myself but i will not ask people to do the same simply because “if they walk off a cliff that’s on them” kind of thought process.


A lot of talk about ethics ...on a toxic anonymous forum. Further, your comparison to choosing a school to walking off a cliff is quite over the top. In short, you have given yourself away as a troll.


That’s an odd rationalization. I gave a purposefully over the top example just to make a point that encouraging ppl to do something risky is just not something I’m comfortable doing even if ultimately it’s up to them to take the risk or not. I was not saying that coming to ssfs is jumping off a cliff.

However your defensiveness is odd to me. Instead of attacking on the basis of some nonsensical basis that you didn’t like my analogy example. Tell us why you like advertising a risk to unsuspecting new families? Do you not think that’s a bit disingenuous?


Different poster here. FWIW, you are the one that's actually coming off as defensive. I too have no reservations about telling any interested parents how much we like the school and why. Your supposed moral high ground/ethics about this seems deliberately gas lighting. It's pretty simple. If a parent asks then they are already interested. You tell them what you want and I will tell them my opinion. Stop assuming parents are naive or can't do their own research and thinking. Now, just agree to disagree.
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