Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I’ve done all of those things and still had plenty of time to look for tears.

It’s a real shame that Erika didn’t shed a sufficient number of tears to satisfy the liberals.
I think if she had known that she would be scrutinized and criticized for capturing her tears with a tissue and not letting them run down her face she would have just let the tears go.

On second thought- no she wouldn’t. She doesn’t GAF what you idiots think.

Of course she doesn't. She's making enough money off the people she's fooling. She doesn't need to waste her time on the rest of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

I am VERY CONSERVATIVE and totally agree with this. She is a grifter trying to milk people for money over her husband's casket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

I am VERY CONSERVATIVE and totally agree with this. She is a grifter trying to milk people for money over her husband's casket.

It’s all so bad, the conflicting evidence, odd players involved, the theatrics, I almost think Charlie is still alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

I haven't talked about her crying at all, but if you take a beta blocker and you're not going to cry, don't act like you're wiping away tears. I think that's the rub for posters. Since it was a rally she didn't have to cry, and it's absolutely her right to sell merch and do fireworks. I actually feel bad for Charlie, and I thought he was despicable.

THIS. I wouldn't judge her for not crying. I don't think widows are crying 24/7 but wiping away nonexistent tears is nothing short of theatrical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

Sure you are. But what do benzos have to with this? Educate us.

Georgetown JD class of 2000; three other university degrees including another advanced degree. Over a decade and a half working in healthcare, many years experience as an attorney working with clients and defendants taking multiple prescription medications so multiple decades of experience with seeng the effects on patients and clients of benzos and beta blockers.

Have you seriously no grasp of the fact that people in the aftermath of traumatic events are often prescribed benzodiazepines and/or beta blockers to cope with the body’s stress response??? YOU seem to lack both common sense AND any substantive education. You could remedy your appearance of stupidity but utilizng any basic search engine and doing some self education on the effects of benzos and beta blockers and the reasons why they are often prescribed - including to help people cope in the aftermath of trauma and grief.

Erika Kirk watched her husband be MURDERED in front of her very eyes and whatever her tackiness or grift, she’s grieving the father of her children. Undoubtedly she has already and will continue to cry rivers of REAL tears for him; I don’t judge her for taking some Valium before appearing on stage in front of 60,000+ people and millions more watching her on broadcast TV and internet streams.

Honestly many of the liberals posting in this thread are appearing to be just as heartless and vile as the people people on the right they are excoriating. There is something fundamentally broken in any human being who lacks the compassion to show some grace to a grieving family member of a hideously murdered person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

Sure you are. But what do benzos have to with this? Educate us.

Georgetown JD class of 2000; three other university degrees including another advanced degree. Over a decade and a half working in healthcare, many years experience as an attorney working with clients and defendants taking multiple prescription medications so multiple decades of experience with seeng the effects on patients and clients of benzos and beta blockers.

Have you seriously no grasp of the fact that people in the aftermath of traumatic events are often prescribed benzodiazepines and/or beta blockers to cope with the body’s stress response??? YOU seem to lack both common sense AND any substantive education. You could remedy your appearance of stupidity but utilizng any basic search engine and doing some self education on the effects of benzos and beta blockers and the reasons why they are often prescribed - including to help people cope in the aftermath of trauma and grief.

Erika Kirk watched her husband be MURDERED in front of her very eyes and whatever her tackiness or grift, she’s grieving the father of her children. Undoubtedly she has already and will continue to cry rivers of REAL tears for him; I don’t judge her for taking some Valium before appearing on stage in front of 60,000+ people and millions more watching her on broadcast TV and internet streams.

Honestly many of the liberals posting in this thread are appearing to be just as heartless and vile as the people people on the right they are excoriating. There is something fundamentally broken in any human being who lacks the compassion to show some grace to a grieving family member of a hideously murdered person.

You have absolutely no way of knowing this. You're opinion is the same as someone saying the opposite. It's all just opinion and narrative, despite your frantic insistence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Right wing media has dropped the whole shooter story because the killer had zero connections to leftist groups and so it's a hot potato. But the damage is already done. The third of the country who have mushy authoritarian worship brains will believe he was a dyed in the wool leftist until they take their last breaths.

Amazing, you mean everyone has to wait for the legal trial to play out like every other murder case?

My oh my.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

Yep I'm conservative and my husband and I both agree something is off with her. I understand people grieve differently but it doesn't feel genuine and seems very performative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

I am VERY CONSERVATIVE and totally agree with this. She is a grifter trying to milk people for money over her husband's casket.

It’s all so bad, the conflicting evidence, odd players involved, the theatrics, I almost think Charlie is still alive.

He’s not still alive. Don’t be crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

Yep I'm conservative and my husband and I both agree something is off with her. I understand people grieve differently but it doesn't feel genuine and seems very performative.

Where I come from, the extended family and close friends attend a gathering with lots of food after a funeral. There is a lot of talk about memories, etc, and, even, lots of laughing. People grieve differently. And, she has a great responsibility. I'm sure she has her moments.

Mary Katharine Hamm experienced widowhood when she was pregnant and had a two year old. She has written about this and tweeted some. x.com/mkhammer
One thing I kind of remember her writing after her husband died (bicycle accident) was that she did not want pity and for them to be looked at with sorrow or something like that.

People grieve differently. And, it comes in waves--sometimes much later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

Sure you are. But what do benzos have to with this? Educate us.

Georgetown JD class of 2000; three other university degrees including another advanced degree. Over a decade and a half working in healthcare, many years experience as an attorney working with clients and defendants taking multiple prescription medications so multiple decades of experience with seeng the effects on patients and clients of benzos and beta blockers.

Have you seriously no grasp of the fact that people in the aftermath of traumatic events are often prescribed benzodiazepines and/or beta blockers to cope with the body’s stress response??? YOU seem to lack both common sense AND any substantive education. You could remedy your appearance of stupidity but utilizng any basic search engine and doing some self education on the effects of benzos and beta blockers and the reasons why they are often prescribed - including to help people cope in the aftermath of trauma and grief.

Erika Kirk watched her husband be MURDERED in front of her very eyes and whatever her tackiness or grift, she’s grieving the father of her children. Undoubtedly she has already and will continue to cry rivers of REAL tears for him; I don’t judge her for taking some Valium before appearing on stage in front of 60,000+ people and millions more watching her on broadcast TV and internet streams.

Honestly many of the liberals posting in this thread are appearing to be just as heartless and vile as the people people on the right they are excoriating. There is something fundamentally broken in any human being who lacks the compassion to show some grace to a grieving family member of a hideously murdered person.

You have absolutely no way of knowing this. You're opinion is the same as someone saying the opposite. It's all just opinion and narrative, despite your frantic insistence.

I know you're a sick, heartless f*ckstain.

DP. Wow, you could use a benzo yourself maybe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

Sure you are. But what do benzos have to with this? Educate us.

Georgetown JD class of 2000; three other university degrees including another advanced degree. Over a decade and a half working in healthcare, many years experience as an attorney working with clients and defendants taking multiple prescription medications so multiple decades of experience with seeng the effects on patients and clients of benzos and beta blockers.

Have you seriously no grasp of the fact that people in the aftermath of traumatic events are often prescribed benzodiazepines and/or beta blockers to cope with the body’s stress response??? YOU seem to lack both common sense AND any substantive education. You could remedy your appearance of stupidity but utilizng any basic search engine and doing some self education on the effects of benzos and beta blockers and the reasons why they are often prescribed - including to help people cope in the aftermath of trauma and grief.

Erika Kirk watched her husband be MURDERED in front of her very eyes and whatever her tackiness or grift, she’s grieving the father of her children. Undoubtedly she has already and will continue to cry rivers of REAL tears for him; I don’t judge her for taking some Valium before appearing on stage in front of 60,000+ people and millions more watching her on broadcast TV and internet streams.

Honestly many of the liberals posting in this thread are appearing to be just as heartless and vile as the people people on the right they are excoriating. There is something fundamentally broken in any human being who lacks the compassion to show some grace to a grieving family member of a hideously murdered person.

GMAFB. She didn’t have to do any of that if she was so grief stricken. It was all for spectacle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you’re zooming in on pictures to see whether a widow has tears or not to score political points you need to desperately get a life.

Go outside with your kids or give your parents a call. Take a walk in nature. Do anything but be a politically obsessed online weirdo.

I give a lot of grace to people in the midst of grief. I'm well aware grief doesn't always look like it does in the movies and varies greatly among individuals. That being said, when you look at the full picture here, I don't think it's wrong to have some questions. It isn't simply that she wasn't crying real tears. This is a woman who mic'd herself up and had someone film a dramatic scene at her husband's casket to post to Instagram, gave a 15 minute address to his fans (followers? supporters? what are we calling them?) from his office a mere 48 hours after his death where the focus was on continuing his legacy with Turning Point and thanking Trump and Vance, again, with no actual tears being shed, was announced as new CEO of TP and seemingly approved fundraising emails to be sent using her husband's death as a money making opportunity, entered a stage to pyrotechnics at a memorial service where they were selling merchandise, and then gave another speech in which she pretended to cry but no actual tears were shed. The whole thing feels like an act.

Yep I'm conservative and my husband and I both agree something is off with her. I understand people grieve differently but it doesn't feel genuine and seems very performative.

Where I come from, the extended family and close friends attend a gathering with lots of food after a funeral. There is a lot of talk about memories, etc, and, even, lots of laughing. People grieve differently. And, she has a great responsibility. I'm sure she has her moments.

Mary Katharine Hamm experienced widowhood when she was pregnant and had a two year old. She has written about this and tweeted some. x.com/mkhammer
One thing I kind of remember her writing after her husband died (bicycle accident) was that she did not want pity and for them to be looked at with sorrow or something like that.

People grieve differently. And, it comes in waves--sometimes much later.

You are right that people grieve differently. But most people do not make several videos of themselves grieving, appear on stage at a memorial gathering of tens of thousands, or fundraise off the death--all within 2 weeks of the death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe that none of the perpetually frustrated women of DCUM - and their husbands - has ever heard of beta blockers or benzodiazepines.

This conspiracy theorizing and character assassination of Erika Kirk is DISGUSTING. I'm asserting that and I am VERY LIBERAL and was thus disgusted by much of the spew that came out of Charlie Kirk's ugly gummy mouth - but I would defend to the death his right to say it.

After everything that has happened since his murder, people need to do some serious soul searching including many of you here. Erika Kirk may be a tacky human being, but some of the things you folks are posting here are beyond the pale, truly.

Sure you are. But what do benzos have to with this? Educate us.

Georgetown JD class of 2000; three other university degrees including another advanced degree. Over a decade and a half working in healthcare, many years experience as an attorney working with clients and defendants taking multiple prescription medications so multiple decades of experience with seeng the effects on patients and clients of benzos and beta blockers.

Have you seriously no grasp of the fact that people in the aftermath of traumatic events are often prescribed benzodiazepines and/or beta blockers to cope with the body’s stress response??? YOU seem to lack both common sense AND any substantive education. You could remedy your appearance of stupidity but utilizng any basic search engine and doing some self education on the effects of benzos and beta blockers and the reasons why they are often prescribed - including to help people cope in the aftermath of trauma and grief.

Erika Kirk watched her husband be MURDERED in front of her very eyes and whatever her tackiness or grift, she’s grieving the father of her children. Undoubtedly she has already and will continue to cry rivers of REAL tears for him; I don’t judge her for taking some Valium before appearing on stage in front of 60,000+ people and millions more watching her on broadcast TV and internet streams.

Honestly many of the liberals posting in this thread are appearing to be just as heartless and vile as the people people on the right they are excoriating. There is something fundamentally broken in any human being who lacks the compassion to show some grace to a grieving family member of a hideously murdered person.

Unless you have a medical background and/or lost a close family member, how would you know what medications are routinely prescribed to grieving family members? If that's even a thing?

Bottomline is you don't know if she took any medication. You are full of crap.