Anyone know what happened at TJMS with Covid?
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Anonymous
| How could do many people be exposed? |
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23 kids yesterday were a close contact
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Anonymous
Maybe TJMS parents will find out in a few weeks after enough people asking. As a TJ parent, I can about guarantee there will be no word to anyone during spring break. And I believe it's procedure to only notify the specific people they believe (or are known) to be in "close contact." Personally, I think the whole school should be notified because you never know who's coming into close contact with an infected student or staff member in hallways, during lunch, after school, etc. |
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Anonymous
How could do many people be exposed? |
Anonymous
In an APS MS, all it takes is one kid, who goes to 8 different classes in a day, to expose 5-10 kids in each room, and their teachers, plus people in the cafeteria. That can add up quickly. |
Anonymous
Yep, its not rocket science. I was surprised it wasn't more! Seriously it's one kid positive there so far which is not unexpected. |
Anonymous
"close contact" is worthless and means nothing it's what parents think it is so over protective mom might say "oh neighbors uncle cousin was diagnosed and the neighbor was outside yesterday and so were we, so yes! close contact!" another might say "oh we went to Giant yesterday. Somewhere there most have been diagnosed and be positive, so yes! close contact!" |
Anonymous
The health department defines close contact, not the parents... |
Anonymous
Yeah, that's not how it works. With 23 at one school, I'm suprised there wasn't a positive recorded. |
Anonymous
| Also, the bus? |
Anonymous
What are you talking about? The close contacts, defined by APS, are those that the child has been in class with. |
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My son goes to a Catholic high school in Northern Virginia. He has been in person since September. He has been a "close contact" twice along with many of his friends. No one from the school other than the original Covid-positive kid has gotten Covid.
Masks work. Wear them. Send your kids to school in person. |
Anonymous
The first US case who flew into Seattle and died weeks later. They did tracing, and tested more than fifty people who were on an airport shuttle with him. None tested positive. Some people believe they messed up the testing and this is how it spread to the nursing homes. |
Anonymous
It is known that a large batch of early tests were defective and had a high failure rate (link below). So it is possible that the tests gave false negatives at that time. This is less of an issue now with PCR tests and more is known about the level of contact needed to spread Covid. Without knowing the shuttle conditions (like length of the shuttle, whether windows were open, how people were positioned) its hard to assess how risky it would have been, but it also seems like due to the flawed testing infrastructure at that point, community spread could have come from another source than the person who died (who would have been more likely to have been given multiple tests to confirm a positive at that point). An asymptomatic or less symptomatic person would be less likely to get tested at all in early 2020, or might have gotten a false negative and not pursued further testing. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/06/929078678/cdc-report-officials-knew-coronavirus-test-was-flawed-but-released-it-anyway With both parties wearing masks, they could very well not have other students test positive. Especially older kids who at least have some awareness. Also, I’ve never seen any school systems that require contacts to get tested, and a lot of kids have low or no symptoms and will probably just quarantine and not get tested so who knows. I don’t think we have full data yet, but there is emerging data that suggest higher percentages of kids have antibodies than were thought to be infected based on testing data. https://www.cell.com/med/pdf/S2666-6340(20)30020-9.pdf Overall I do think in person activities for children are relatively safe with reasonable precautions, and I have been working in person with children since the summer. But my experience is most of the time child contacts don’t pursue testing. So there may be some limits to the conclusions we can make. Also in regards to when children are identified as contacts I’ve only seen it (roughly) as less than 6 feet distance for 15 min or more or without masks for some reason. So basically, it will be children who are in the same class(es) or teams as someone who tests positive and had that level of close contact as identified by the health department questions. Being in the same building would not do it, and even the same classroom not necessarily if they can answer both parties had masks and were 6+ feet of distance. Lunch could be an issue, as well as some athletic activities where 6 feet can’t be maintained. This is mostly where I have personally seen close contacts identified with this age. For secondary kids in gen ed a significant portion is athletics. Not arguing against athletics and I coached a winter sport when VHSL opened up again as well with many unknowns. But there are athletic activities where those conditions couldn’t be maintained and led to both quarantines and multiple positives within a group. “Contacts of contacts” are not identified or notified for quarantine purposes, so yes, the post about the neighbor’s uncle and neighbor being outside is not accurate. |
Anonymous
CDC has defined close contact |