The Blind Side scandal

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Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.


Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?


The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.

However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).

This discrepancy has never been explained.


So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.


Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.


Exactly. This tracks with his statement about the timeline of events. Instead of simply turning over the conservatorship records, they ran to hire Marty Singer. Definitely makes me think they're hiding something, but time will tell!


I wonder why they didn't hire "Aunt Deb".
Anonymous
Assuming he can show he didn’t know until recently he wasn’t adopted.

So? What is his causation and damages?

Doesn’t matter to the movie proceeds issue. They need to account for that regardless. But that is a different issue
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Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He might not be dumb. But he has a 1.3 GPA. Too low for the NCAA. Without the support he gat form the family, could he have made it. Possible. Juco, other ways. But is it likely? No not really. In any event this was his path. It is both of them together that made this happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


There is an NCAA lower limit. No colleges cannot do anything. They could admit and then help but no college would do this. This is on the student, family, and current school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He might not be dumb. But he has a 1.3 GPA. Too low for the NCAA. Without the support he gat form the family, could he have made it. Possible. Juco, other ways. But is it likely? No not really. In any event this was his path. It is both of them together that made this happen.


What a load of bull. There were other people there to help. The school would have helped. This white savior crap the tuohys love to spread needs to stop. That you keep mentioning it when it is clear they have used him for decades is disgusting.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.


Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?


The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.

However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).

This discrepancy has never been explained.


So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.


Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.


Exactly. This tracks with his statement about the timeline of events. Instead of simply turning over the conservatorship records, they ran to hire Marty Singer. Definitely makes me think they're hiding something, but time will tell!


+ 100
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.


Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?


The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.

However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).

This discrepancy has never been explained.

Huh. That’s really odd but also certainly not incriminating to either side.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.


Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?


The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.

However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).

This discrepancy has never been explained.


Huh. That’s really odd but also certainly not incriminating to either side.


This may explain why he didn't know about the conservatorship still being in effect. He may have expected it to end at 25, but it never did. If he didn't get the final document from the court, he would not have known about it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He might not be dumb. But he has a 1.3 GPA. Too low for the NCAA. Without the support he gat form the family, could he have made it. Possible. Juco, other ways. But is it likely? No not really. In any event this was his path. It is both of them together that made this happen.


What a load of bull. There were other people there to help. The school would have helped. This white savior crap the tuohys love to spread needs to stop. That you keep mentioning it when it is clear they have used him for decades is disgusting.


What planet are you from? You have no idea how real life works. Name a similar example.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


Never heard of that at the high school level.


Travel teams/private coaches usually help with that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


Never heard of that at the high school level.


Travel teams/private coaches usually help with that.


Oh is that something ready available and common for football players? Especially ones couch surfing, in and out of foster care, and no parents available to help?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


Never heard of that at the high school level.


Travel teams/private coaches usually help with that.


Oh is that something ready available and common for football players? Especially ones couch surfing, in and out of foster care, and no parents available to help?


Yes you can tell by how Oher had that all in place before the Touhys kidnapped him, don’t you see.

/s
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.

Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.

Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.


He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.


He had a huge GPA problem.


Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?


Yes. They manage to get around it all the time.


I have no inside knowledge into this situation. Nor do any of you really.

But re: NCAA and grades, maybe some will work with the kids who have lower GPAs. But not all. And there is a minimum. One kid at our HS had a college coach walk out of a meeting with him after seeing his GPA and told him that was a nonstarter. THe kid was very open about that with his team.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Assuming he can show he didn’t know until recently he wasn’t adopted.

So? What is his causation and damages?

Doesn’t matter to the movie proceeds issue. They need to account for that regardless. But that is a different issue


IDK, what would the damages be if you found out today your family is not your family.
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