Airplane noise concerns overblown?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting how they talk about successes of similar changes north of the airport. The only neighborhood that benefitted from any changes north of the airport is Potomac. The noise actually increased for the majority of the neighborhoods including Northern Virginia and Bethesda but no post implementation studies were ever done.

All the changes north of the airport were pushed thought without any participation from the affected communities.

There were no community meetings in Montgomery County. In fact the Working Group never notified Montgomery County residents about a public comment period that the FAA had opened for residents of Montgomery County to provide feedback on the changes in north flow departures.

Now they all call it a success. Based on what?

I can confirm it was the same with changes to approaches. A small group of Potomac residents who hold all the seats from Montgomery county on the working group worked with the FAA on shifting the flights to other neighborhoods. When the new procedure went into effect hundreds of complaints immediately poured in. The consultant summarized it as just part of the process. Nobody from the newly overflown communities was even consulted.

There was only one time when residents north of the airport were able to have their voices heard and they OVERWHELMINGLY rejected the efforts by the Working Group to shift the easterly flight towards the center of the river in 2021.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BQbxKd536E

This. If you live in Mount Vernon or PG County make sure you download all the information right now from this site:
https://www.vianair.com/soa/

If your local govts and the FAA approve the proposed changes, you will not see anything for at least a year because it takes that long to develop new flight procedures. By the time you wake up one morning with airplanes roaring over your house from the new procedures, this information will be long gone....You will not get any answers from anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP (the original OP here). Just to report that we are still living near the canal and very happy with it, and I go run or bike on the towpath multiple times a week thanks to the easy access. Living close to mass for commuting into the city + the CC / C&O trails has been worth it ime.

The OP of the worst backfired thread ever. So glad you started it, even if it went sideways on you. Truth will out and living under a flight path is a disaster: economic, health, although it might take you decades to notice. At least 10s of thousands of people are now wiser thanks to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No matter which way they go, they will be pissing someone off with the noise in such a densly populated area.

Given what happened earlier this year, I would rather they choose the safest flight paths that are easiest to navigate for pilots. The rest of us can deal with it.

I know what it's like, I live near Dulles and knew what I was getting into. If one has a misophonia condition, the best choice may be to move.

Misophonia?! Nice try.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We were hoping to downsize to a townhome in Georgetown in a couple of years when our last child goes off the college. Often when I'm in that neighborhood in the daytime, I'm busy and don't notice then noise. But every time I'm there in the evening for dinner and the street noise is quieter, the sound of air traffic is REALLY noticeable. We're rethinking our retirement plan.

+1

No longer an option until we come to our senses and protect Gtown. Can always drive more traffic over nondescript neighborhoods like the Palisades

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were hoping to downsize to a townhome in Georgetown in a couple of years when our last child goes off the college. Often when I'm in that neighborhood in the daytime, I'm busy and don't notice then noise. But every time I'm there in the evening for dinner and the street noise is quieter, the sound of air traffic is REALLY noticeable. We're rethinking our retirement plan.

+1

No longer an option until we come to our senses and protect Gtown. Can always drive more traffic over nondescript neighborhoods like the Palisades

Yeah it really is horrible, especially on the western side of Wisconsin. I don’t remember it being so loud years ago. Same with old town. Whose idea was it to turn two of our most prized, historic neighborhoods into a super highway for air traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP (the original OP here). Just to report that we are still living near the canal and very happy with it, and I go run or bike on the towpath multiple times a week thanks to the easy access. Living close to mass for commuting into the city + the CC / C&O trails has been worth it ime.

The OP of the worst backfired thread ever. So glad you started it, even if it went sideways on you. Truth will out and living under a flight path is a disaster: economic, health, although it might take you decades to notice. At least 10s of thousands of people are now wiser thanks to you.

Hope you are happy and living your best life my dear fellow. Your misery shines through in every word you type.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We were hoping to downsize to a townhome in Georgetown in a couple of years when our last child goes off the college. Often when I'm in that neighborhood in the daytime, I'm busy and don't notice then noise. But every time I'm there in the evening for dinner and the street noise is quieter, the sound of air traffic is REALLY noticeable. We're rethinking our retirement plan.

+1

+1

No longer an option until we come to our senses and protect Gtown. Can always drive more traffic over nondescript neighborhoods like the Palisades

Yeah it really is horrible, especially on the western side of Wisconsin. I don’t remember it being so loud years ago. Same with old town. Whose idea was it to turn two of our most prized, historic neighborhoods into a super highway for air traffic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP (the original OP here). Just to report that we are still living near the canal and very happy with it, and I go run or bike on the towpath multiple times a week thanks to the easy access. Living close to mass for commuting into the city + the CC / C&O trails has been worth it ime.

The OP of the worst backfired thread ever. So glad you started it, even if it went sideways on you. Truth will out and living under a flight path is a disaster: economic, health, although it might take you decades to notice. At least 10s of thousands of people are now wiser thanks to you.

Hope you are happy and living your best life my dear fellow. Your misery shines through in every word you type.

Well, you know that’s not true. Conversely, it is true that there’s no air traffic nor air pollution that’s likely to prematurely kill anyone where I am and that my property values are going up even for NW.

As you are rightly picking up on something, I do have some residual resentment for all the hours wasted to real estate agents and home owners gaslighting us in the home buying process. So, yes, I’m delighted your little whitewashing attempt went so awry

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP (the original OP here). Just to report that we are still living near the canal and very happy with it, and I go run or bike on the towpath multiple times a week thanks to the easy access. Living close to mass for commuting into the city + the CC / C&O trails has been worth it ime.

The OP of the worst backfired thread ever. So glad you started it, even if it went sideways on you. Truth will out and living under a flight path is a disaster: economic, health, although it might take you decades to notice. At least 10s of thousands of people are now wiser thanks to you.

Hope you are happy and living your best life my dear fellow. Your misery shines through in every word you type.

Palisades resident spotted. Cope and seethe — you live under an aviation super highway and you are inhaling excessive levels of ultrafine particles on a daily basis. Meanwhile those of us who aren’t dim witted enjoy higher levels of peace, quiet, and clean air. Enjoy bathing in combusted jet fuel.

[Anonymous]

People on the community noise working group at dca lack any accountability. There is a new member from Fairfax who is asking tough questions about some of the recent changes that resulted in more noise for many people living north of the airport and how those changes came about but she is being shut down by others in the group. They refuse to provide her with clear answers.