Best private schools in NYC?

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Anonymous wrote:For comparison, HM publishes 3-year stats but (by coincidence) they had 124 out of 539 graduates in the last 3 years attend Ivies, so 23% versus Brearley's 41%.

Of course it's also the case that they had 539 graduates in the past 3 years - half again as many girls as Brearley et al, then double it by adding boys - so relative to the difficulty of getting in it's still a pretty good deal.

20-30% to ivies is amazing for these TT schools (and certainly makes it seem worth it to try to get your kid into one), but 40+% is bordering on unbelievable in the current college admissions environment. There must be something in the water over at Brearley.

That “something in the water” is really just having your pick of kids that would have made it to ivies anyway regardless of where they went to high school.

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In the four-tier system, I'd put them both in 3T, but Trevor near the top - and threatening to move into 2T (much as Riverdale managed 10 or 15 years ago) - while CGPS is a good bit farther down.

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Anonymous wrote:That “something in the water” is really just having your pick of kids that would have made it to ivies anyway regardless of where they went to high school.

Brearley I have to say does a *really* great job of selling the idea of "single-sex education for your bright daughter who's constantly having boys talk over her," much better than the other two do (to the extent they even try).

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Anonymous wrote:That “something in the water” is really just having your pick of kids that would have made it to ivies anyway regardless of where they went to high school.

Brearley I have to say does a *really* great job of selling the idea of "single-sex education for your bright daughter who's constantly having boys talk over her," much better than the other two do (to the extent they even try).

Yeah to be fair I didn’t mean that as bad thing. Based on results clearly they are better at identifying and attracting high potential girls than their competition.

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Ivies don't mean everything. It also depends on what you are going to them for...

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of these kids are legacies, FGLI's (these schools love prep for prep kids), plus mix in a few athletes? The numbers are still very impressive but this thread shows they know exactly what they are doing.

When we were interviewing at these schools we made it very clear that we are proud and active alums of Ivies. We don't donate a lot but our kids do have an edge. I don't know if this mattered at all (we had mixed results) but it would be dumb not to try, as long as you don't do it in an over-the-top, offensive way.

Does legacy even matter anymore? Other than for big donors (and I’m talking 8 figures, which will count the same legacy or not), I’ve heard that run of the mill legacy is basically irrelevant in today’s college admissions.

Depends on the school. But many of these families are wealthy enough to be consistently making 5/6/7 figure gifts which will definitely still move the needle at a lot of top schools.

That is not true at all. At ivy league schools, 5 and 6 figure gifts are meaningless, and I've even heard from college advisors that 7 digits doesn't move the needle. 8 digits can get you on a development list.

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of these kids are legacies, FGLI's (these schools love prep for prep kids), plus mix in a few athletes? The numbers are still very impressive but this thread shows they know exactly what they are doing.

When we were interviewing at these schools we made it very clear that we are proud and active alums of Ivies. We don't donate a lot but our kids do have an edge. I don't know if this mattered at all (we had mixed results) but it would be dumb not to try, as long as you don't do it in an over-the-top, offensive way.

Does legacy even matter anymore? Other than for big donors (and I’m talking 8 figures, which will count the same legacy or not), I’ve heard that run of the mill legacy is basically irrelevant in today’s college admissions.

Depends on the school. But many of these families are wealthy enough to be consistently making 5/6/7 figure gifts which will definitely still move the needle at a lot of top schools.

That is not true at all. At ivy league schools, 5 and 6 figure gifts are meaningless, and I've even heard from college advisors that 7 digits doesn't move the needle. 8 digits can get you on a development list.

Depends on the school, how consistently you give, whether you do other things (reunion committees, boards, etc.) Obviously the impact is bigger with bigger gifts, but it can be a tie breaker. And Ivy admissions are all about tie breakers.

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Anonymous wrote:In the four-tier system, I'd put them both in 3T, but Trevor near the top - and threatening to move into 2T (much as Riverdale managed 10 or 15 years ago) - while CGPS is a good bit farther down.

Nice. Thanks!

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Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a 34% ivy acceptance rate over for years which is also great…. That’s just scooting to ChatGPT so that is very unofficial. LOL

Matriculation or acceptance? That percentage seems really high considering their performance in the last 2-3 years

NP. Just looked it up. For last 5 years, Chapin sent 78 to ivies, so less than Spence’s 91 and much less than Brearley’s 124, but a little more than Collegiate’s 71. Seems to be about 25% of class if you assume similar class size to those others.

Chapin and Collegiate class size is a bit smaller I am pretty sure about 50 to Spence’s 60-70 but depends on year so their rate is in the 30 percentile so pretty comparable to Spence’s. 78 kids over 5 years with a class size of 50 is 31 percent. Chapin has been consistent with their Ivy acceptance rate. They are pretty intent on keeping the community small. It’s very very difficult to gain acceptance in recent years. What performance was the poster referring to?? Love this forum for all the differing opinions! I assume it’s parents from the various schools. LOL.

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Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a 34% ivy acceptance rate over for years which is also great…. That’s just scooting to ChatGPT so that is very unofficial. LOL

Matriculation or acceptance? That percentage seems really high considering their performance in the last 2-3 years

NP. Just looked it up. For last 5 years, Chapin sent 78 to ivies, so less than Spence’s 91 and much less than Brearley’s 124, but a little more than Collegiate’s 71. Seems to be about 25% of class if you assume similar class size to those others.

Chapin and Collegiate class size is a bit smaller I am pretty sure about 50 to Spence’s 60-70 but depends on year so their rate is in the 30 percentile so pretty comparable to Spence’s. 78 kids over 5 years with a class size of 50 is 31 percent. Chapin has been consistent with their Ivy acceptance rate. They are pretty intent on keeping the community small. It’s very very difficult to gain acceptance in recent years. What performance was the poster referring to?? Love this forum for all the differing opinions! I assume it’s parents from the various schools. LOL.

That's incorrect for Chapin, which has 810 students for 13 grades (https://www.chapin.edu/about/chapin-facts). That's an average of over 62 per grade. About even with Spence, which has 804 (https://www.spenceschool.org/about-spence/at-a-glance). Brearley has 786 (https://www.brearley.org/brearley-at-a-glance/). Collegiate is smaller though with 670 (https://www.collegiateschool.org/explore/who-we-are).

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Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a 34% ivy acceptance rate over for years which is also great…. That’s just scooting to ChatGPT so that is very unofficial. LOL

Matriculation or acceptance? That percentage seems really high considering their performance in the last 2-3 years

NP. Just looked it up. For last 5 years, Chapin sent 78 to ivies, so less than Spence’s 91 and much less than Brearley’s 124, but a little more than Collegiate’s 71. Seems to be about 25% of class if you assume similar class size to those others.

Chapin and Collegiate class size is a bit smaller I am pretty sure about 50 to Spence’s 60-70 but depends on year so their rate is in the 30 percentile so pretty comparable to Spence’s. 78 kids over 5 years with a class size of 50 is 31 percent. Chapin has been consistent with their Ivy acceptance rate. They are pretty intent on keeping the community small. It’s very very difficult to gain acceptance in recent years. What performance was the poster referring to?? Love this forum for all the differing opinions! I assume it’s parents from the various schools. LOL.

That's incorrect for Chapin, which has 810 students for 13 grades (https://www.chapin.edu/about/chapin-facts). That's an average of over 62 per grade. About even with Spence, which has 804 (https://www.spenceschool.org/about-spence/at-a-glance). Brearley has 786 (https://www.brearley.org/brearley-at-a-glance/). Collegiate is smaller though with 670 (https://www.collegiateschool.org/explore/who-we-are).

Class size can vary, some middle school grades tend to have more kids but high school classes can definitely be as small as 50 at Chapin. Think this year’s class has 57.

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Anyone know if it’s really required to take the ISEE for entry to Buckley? I know of families that were offered spots at Allen Stevenson for 3rd grade w/o an ISEE score so wondering if that also happens periodically at Buckley!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a 34% ivy acceptance rate over for years which is also great…. That’s just scooting to ChatGPT so that is very unofficial. LOL

Matriculation or acceptance? That percentage seems really high considering their performance in the last 2-3 years

NP. Just looked it up. For last 5 years, Chapin sent 78 to ivies, so less than Spence’s 91 and much less than Brearley’s 124, but a little more than Collegiate’s 71. Seems to be about 25% of class if you assume similar class size to those others.

Chapin and Collegiate class size is a bit smaller I am pretty sure about 50 to Spence’s 60-70 but depends on year so their rate is in the 30 percentile so pretty comparable to Spence’s. 78 kids over 5 years with a class size of 50 is 31 percent. Chapin has been consistent with their Ivy acceptance rate. They are pretty intent on keeping the community small. It’s very very difficult to gain acceptance in recent years. What performance was the poster referring to?? Love this forum for all the differing opinions! I assume it’s parents from the various schools. LOL.

That's incorrect for Chapin, which has 810 students for 13 grades (https://www.chapin.edu/about/chapin-facts). That's an average of over 62 per grade. About even with Spence, which has 804 (https://www.spenceschool.org/about-spence/at-a-glance). Brearley has 786 (https://www.brearley.org/brearley-at-a-glance/). Collegiate is smaller though with 670 (https://www.collegiateschool.org/explore/who-we-are).

Class size can vary, some middle school grades tend to have more kids but high school classes can definitely be as small as 50 at Chapin. Think this year’s class has 57.

Chapin's matriculation page for 2021-2025 reflects 299 students., or 60 students per year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Chapin has a 34% ivy acceptance rate over for years which is also great…. That’s just scooting to ChatGPT so that is very unofficial. LOL

Matriculation or acceptance? That percentage seems really high considering their performance in the last 2-3 years

NP. Just looked it up. For last 5 years, Chapin sent 78 to ivies, so less than Spence’s 91 and much less than Brearley’s 124, but a little more than Collegiate’s 71. Seems to be about 25% of class if you assume similar class size to those others.

Chapin and Collegiate class size is a bit smaller I am pretty sure about 50 to Spence’s 60-70 but depends on year so their rate is in the 30 percentile so pretty comparable to Spence’s. 78 kids over 5 years with a class size of 50 is 31 percent. Chapin has been consistent with their Ivy acceptance rate. They are pretty intent on keeping the community small. It’s very very difficult to gain acceptance in recent years. What performance was the poster referring to?? Love this forum for all the differing opinions! I assume it’s parents from the various schools. LOL.

That's incorrect for Chapin, which has 810 students for 13 grades (https://www.chapin.edu/about/chapin-facts). That's an average of over 62 per grade. About even with Spence, which has 804 (https://www.spenceschool.org/about-spence/at-a-glance). Brearley has 786 (https://www.brearley.org/brearley-at-a-glance/). Collegiate is smaller though with 670 (https://www.collegiateschool.org/explore/who-we-are).

Class size can vary, some middle school grades tend to have more kids but high school classes can definitely be as small as 50 at Chapin. Think this year’s class has 57.

Chapin's matriculation page for 2021-2025 reflects 299 students., or 60 students per year.

Yeah no idea why that poster is fighting this. The class size is about the same as the other TT girls schools, but the matriculation stats are worse. They are still very strong; they're just the worst of the 3. No shame at all in that.

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Most Ivy admits from those schools have a hook: legacy/donor family, athletics, URM etc. They’d get in from any TT, 2T, or even (!) 3T school. The only thing Brearley or Trinity or wherever has the “best” matriculation did is identify students who are shoe ins for Ivies. Ranking or deciding between them based on matriculation is tedious.