HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These are educated parents. Can someone please explain what they might have been thinking? Were *they* too drunk to behave like parents?

On that note, even though all parents probably say, "Call me if you need a ride home," perhaps the kids know their parents are also drinking, so what's the use?

Educated parents can still be shitty parents. Apple doesn't fall from the tree. If I get into trouble, I'll get the best lawyer. I won't get into trouble. It only happens to other people. I'm too smart to get into trouble.

Uneducated parents can be loving and not allow underage drinking, that would be my parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/

Wow
This is extremely sad and eye opening.
So even the parents who did everything to prevent drinking in their house couldn't do it. So what is the answer? Do we have to convince our kids but to drink? How?

I don't know, but it's pervasive in Wootton, and I want to get out of here before my kid hits high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/

Wow
This is extremely sad and eye opening.
So even the parents who did everything to prevent drinking in their house couldn't do it. So what is the answer? Do we have to convince our kids but to drink? How?

The parents did nothing to prevent the underaged drinking in their house.
Absolutely nothing. Jail time for them is the ONLY solution.

What did they to prevent the drinking? NOTHING.
Let's say it again here. The parents ALLOWED the drinking.

[Anonymous]

But when you, as a parent aren't supervising your kid and/or are letting them go to the party, Aren't you contributorily negligent? So how can you sue?

[Anonymous]

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My thoughts exactly. The parents of every. single. kid. at that Party House need to SUE that lawyer's sorry ass. He needs to pay up for the damages he's responsible for. And he needs to go to prison too. Now watch him get these two unflattering posts deleted. He's accustomed to getting his way around here. We aren't allowed to ask if the mother was in the house during the underaged drinking.

The owner of this Internet board is deleting your posts. Are you suggesting that the lawyer is paying him off?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But when you, as a parent aren't supervising your kid and/or are letting them go to the party, Aren't you contributorily negligent? So how can you sue?

Are you the one who promised parents there would be no underaged drinking?

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Alcohol and pot .. Expected

Benzo... Really, how prevalent is benzo at Wootton?

[Anonymous]

Unfortunately, history will continue to repeat itself in terms of underage drinking and driving and most significantly parents who fail to take their responsibilities of parents seriously right through high school. Two of the most dangerous times of the year are prom night and graduation time. Sad fact that many parents, especially among the wealthy and educated class, want to be their teen's "best friend" not only in their eyes, but in the eyes of their teen pals.

In our area probably 15 years ago, two parents actually got arrested for a party in their house that lead to tragedy. They ended up divorcing as the teen boy was the Mom's child and I do believe each did some time. It is not only peer pressure among teens to combat, but "peer pressure" among parents. Who of those 17 kids in attendance really would have dared to call the Kresses and ask if there was going to be alcohol AND then to keep their son or daughter home?? I do think it is appalling that the Dad was not made to go into court before a judge, but he knew how to bend the rules in his favor as after all that is what high powered lawyers often get to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are many posters who know that parent providers of alcohol need jail time consequences, if they are to reconsider their reckless (literally!) behavior.

This is what I know. Lots of diligent parents will call the parents of a kid hosting a party to verify there'll be no alcohol drinking and parents will be home.

Here's what they need to do. Call the home the evening of the party after it's started. Ask to speak to the parent, to thank them for inviting your kid, and you'll be late, but you're on the way.

Here's the shocker now...
No parent is at home. These "cool" parents will lie right to your face about being home during the party.

They will stock the bar and leave for the night, or better yet... the weekend.

Just try it, and see for yourselves how it works.

Here's what parents must be doing if your kid thinks he needs to be out at night.

But really, why? Most alcohol car crashes happen Friday and Saturday after 8pm.

This is NOT the time for high school kids to be out driving, is it?

[Anonymous]

Kids all over the world drink and have done so for eons. What makes our culture and our kids so unable to make decisions that all of history and the rest of the world faces?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids all over the world drink and have done so for eons. What makes our culture and our kids so unable to make decisions that all of history and the rest of the world faces?

20th century American car culture.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids all over the world drink and have done so for eons. What makes our culture and our kids so unable to make decisions that all of history and the rest of the world faces?

20th century American car culture.

I agree. So why isn't anyone thinking about that? Why isn't it more of a situation where we try to make responsible kids vs. removing any chance of them making a decision? I'm a high school teacher and I see the evidence of this helicoptering in every aspect of the kids' lives. The anxiety from decision making is causing severe depression, and I would even go so far as to say it is pushing them towards risky behavior.

I have a teen of my own and I've taught teens for over 15 years. I have had thousands more conversations with teens than you have. But I know this is coming.... flame away.

[Anonymous]

1. Someone posted a link to the Bethesda Magazine article.
2. Bethesda Magazine article reported about a family from 2013 that had teens drinking in their house.
3. Some PP confused the 2013 family with the current "Wootton" case.
4. No charges have yet been filed in the Wootton case.
5. The case from 2013 was "nol prossed" and Bethesda Magazine reported that in accordance with a plea agreement, the parent donated to an anti-drinking group.
So the question remains:
Is it usual and customary in Montgomery County to negotiate a plea deal involving a donation to a non profit? Does this really happen?

[Anonymous]

So, how common is Benzo at Wootton?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:1. Someone posted a link to the Bethesda Magazine article.
2. Bethesda Magazine article reported about a family from 2013 that had teens drinking in their house.
3. Some PP confused the 2013 family with the current "Wootton" case.
4. No charges have yet been filed in the Wootton case.
5. The case from 2013 was "nol prossed" and Bethesda Magazine reported that in accordance with a plea agreement, the parent donated to an anti-drinking group.
So the question remains:
Is it usual and customary in Montgomery County to negotiate a plea deal involving a donation to a non profit? Does this really happen?

Either it really happens, or Bethesda Magazine made it up.