GA Case

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well to be clear, I am sure Kemp will need extra security now because the MAGAs will lose their shit over this.

+1

This azzhat just threatened violence if he doesn't get his way. This nutjob needs to be in a cage. Saying he's going to draw his rifle.

The bigger the rifle, the smaller the....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.

'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'

[Anonymous]

GA trial to be televised.

Nice.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.

'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'

Yes, Eastman is full of shit. If Pence did not accept the electoral votes certified by the states, and instead sent them back to the states because of a phony outlaw dispute, that would be, in fact, rejecting the state-certified electoral votes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.

'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'

These dummies had 2 theories. Their first theory was that pence could reject the real electors and accept the fake ones right then on Jan. 6. The second was that he could send it back to state legislatures so they could pick new electors. Even Eastman thought the first one was crazy. But that’s the one Trump pursued.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.

'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'

These dummies had 2 theories. Their first theory was that pence could reject the real electors and accept the fake ones right then on Jan. 6. The second was that he could send it back to state legislatures so they could pick new electors. Even Eastman thought the first one was crazy. But that’s the one Trump pursued.

Eastman’s way is still fraud against Georgia, in two ways. One is pressing the Trump electors to sign fraudulent certifications. The second is pressing state legislators to fraudulently declare that the Trump electors are official despite Trump losing the election in Georgia. Fraud is fraud and his plan was all fraud.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.
[twitter]https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1697032158748025247?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.[/quote]'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'[/quote]

These dummies had 2 theories. Their first theory was that pence could reject the real electors and accept the fake ones right then on Jan. 6. The second was that he could send it back to state legislatures so they could pick new electors. Even Eastman thought the first one was crazy. But that’s the one Trump pursued.[/quote]

Eastman’s way is still fraud against Georgia, in two ways. One is pressing the Trump electors to sign fraudulent certifications. The second is pressing state legislators to fraudulently declare that the Trump electors are official despite Trump losing the election in Georgia. Fraud is fraud and his plan was all fraud. [/quote]

This happened in 1960 in Hawaii. The initial state certified electors were not the ones taken.[/quote]

Not the same at all. There was a Hawaii court ordered recount that changed the result after the state had certified for Nixon based on tabulation errors. There were no fake electors with fake certifications or the state legislature throwing out the election. The judge ordered that the Democratic electors be certified after the recount. Nixon himself was VP and presented both certificates and asked for unanimous consent to count the Democratic electors and set aside the Republican electors.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Even Laura Ingraham isn’t buying Eastman’s ish.
[twitter]https://twitter.com/acyn/status/1697032158748025247?s=46&t=kf1qYlCXQnKgUhJWEIu2vg[/twitter][/quote]

It also undermines Trump's "advice of counsel" argument. Eastman seems to be saying that he didn't counsel Trump and Pence to simply reject the electors from PA, AZ, MI, GA, etc. Instead he is saying that he counseled them to "send it back." But Trump tried to get Pence to just reject them so he didn't even follow the crazy advice Eastman was giving him.[/quote]'Send it back is by definition a rejection, since the alternative option is to accept the results.'[/quote]

These dummies had 2 theories. Their first theory was that pence could reject the real electors and accept the fake ones right then on Jan. 6. The second was that he could send it back to state legislatures so they could pick new electors. Even Eastman thought the first one was crazy. But that’s the one Trump pursued.[/quote]

Eastman’s way is still fraud against Georgia, in two ways. One is pressing the Trump electors to sign fraudulent certifications. The second is pressing state legislators to fraudulently declare that the Trump electors are official despite Trump losing the election in Georgia. Fraud is fraud and his plan was all fraud. [/quote]

This happened in 1960 in Hawaii. The initial state certified electors were not the ones taken.[/quote]

Not the same at all. There was a Hawaii court ordered recount that changed the result after the state had certified for Nixon based on tabulation errors. There were no fake electors with fake certifications or the state legislature throwing out the election. The judge ordered that the Democratic electors be certified after the recount. Nixon himself was VP and presented both certificates and asked for unanimous consent to count the Democratic electors and set aside the Republican electors. [/quote]

There was a competing slate of electors selected, separate from the certified electors, in case the Democrats' challenge was successful. These were 'fake electors' that eventually became the real electors.

[Anonymous]

They were no fake or fraudulent electors in Hawaii. The court ordered recount was still ongoing on the date for electors to meet, so both sets of electors met, knowing that the recount would determine which would be accepted by Congress. No fraud. No outlaw electors. Everything was done under the supervision of the court, for the purpose of ensuring that the winner of the election in Hawaii received the electoral votes from Hawaii.

So the opposite of what Trump and Eastman and Chesebro tried to do, which was to commit fraud to give the Georgia electoral votes to the loser.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They were no fake or fraudulent electors in Hawaii. The court ordered recount was still ongoing on the date for electors to meet, so both sets of electors met, knowing that the recount would determine which would be accepted by Congress. No fraud. No outlaw electors. Everything was done under the supervision of the court, for the purpose of ensuring that the winner of the election in Hawaii received the electoral votes from Hawaii.

So the opposite of what Trump and Eastman and Chesebro tried to do, which was to commit fraud to give the Georgia electoral votes to the loser.

Edit to add that the Judge in Hawaii ordered that the Democratic slate be named the valid presidential electors for state on Dec. 30 and the Republican Governor certified the Democratic electors on Jan. 4, 1961, so they were not fraudulent self-certified electors they were the official electors certified by the state government.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:They were no fake or fraudulent electors in Hawaii. The court ordered recount was still ongoing on the date for electors to meet, so both sets of electors met, knowing that the recount would determine which would be accepted by Congress. No fraud. No outlaw electors. Everything was done under the supervision of the court, for the purpose of ensuring that the winner of the election in Hawaii received the electoral votes from Hawaii.

So the opposite of what Trump and Eastman and Chesebro tried to do, which was to commit fraud to give the Georgia electoral votes to the loser.

Edit to add that the Judge in Hawaii ordered that the Democratic slate be named the valid presidential electors for state on Dec. 30 and the Republican Governor certified the Democratic electors on Jan. 4, 1961, so they were not fraudulent self-certified electors they were the official electors certified by the state government.

Fascinating. Thanks for the history! And day and night from what took place on Jan 6 and in GA. Anyone who pulls this up as a precedent is going to get burned even worse.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rut Ruh

BREAKING: Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis' case against former President Trump is in deep trouble after Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger testified that Trump never told him to engage in any illegal conduct during the 2020 election.

You are a clown. Read the indictment.

Don't ever pay attention to the "Rut Ruh" poster. They're a fountain of disinformation on this board.

Yes, this. They are a MAGA fool!

[Anonymous]

And Scooby Doo doesn't even say "Rut Ruh." He says "Ruh Roh."

Such a foolish MAGA poster!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And Scooby Doo doesn't even say "Rut Ruh." He says "Ruh Roh."

Such a foolish MAGA poster!

Well, it's Scooby with the MAGA accent, you see. No, we like him. It's like a stinky little pet that you can't get rid of. Occasionally he comes up to you, craving attention, and he stinks up the place, but you're too humane to abandon him, so you give him a pet and carry on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Rut Ruh

BREAKING: Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis' case against former President Trump is in deep trouble after Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger testified that Trump never told him to engage in any illegal conduct during the 2020 election.

You are a clown. Read the indictment.

Read the article:

https://www.georgiarecord.com/election-integrity/2023/08/31/explosive-revelation-fani-willis-linked-to-massive-election-fraud-and-money-laundering-rico-enterprise/

"In a shocking turn of events, a bombshell investigation has uncovered jaw-dropping connections between Fani Willis and a sprawling web of election fraud and money laundering activities."