Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?

How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.

Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.

How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.

I don't know, why can't commercial airplanes go to space?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?

How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.

Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.

How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.

Probably a cost/benefit decision. Probably not necessary for 99% of dives.

Or 100%...

Who do you think we're fighting at 12,000 feet underwater? Have you watched The Abyss too recently?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This guy went on the sub in 2021 and said it had electrical problems back then.

It looks hot AF in that photo. The heat is what would make me freak out. I can handle the close confines, the lack of natural light, being deep underwater. But the heat would drive me nuts. You probably sweat off a lot of water.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just read what their customers were told (and is STILL up on their website). Exhibit A:

https://oceangate.com/our-subs/titan-submersible.html

So many typos/errors on that page.

[Anonymous]

Is it crazy to think that the mother sub couldn’t have had some type of cable attached to the submersible? The submersible would have been found very quickly. There are already fiber optic cables spanning the oceans now. Maybe that type of cable could have been used?

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Anonymous wrote:When would the oxygen be up? If they're bobbing on the surface, do they still need the oxygen reserves (sorry if this is a dumb q) or can they survive encapsulated for a while?

The O2 will run out, such a horrible design flaw. They could die while floating on top of the ocean.

Makes sense though. In order to withstand the pressures at 12,000 foot water depth, you'd want a smooth exterior surface to increase tensile strength. You can't have portholes or doors, as those would be weak points in the design that could fail under pressure. Even external attachment anchor points could compromise the tensile strength of the surface of the hull.

Are submarines designed so that the occupants are unable to exit? These people are locked in, it’s a torture chamber. God help them if they are floating on the ocean surface unable to escape.

Submarines don't go anywhere near this depth.

I know, but it seems to be a major design flaw to have the occupants locked in, unable to ever escape.

There's no where to escape to. It's safer for all to have a sealed in chamber.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When would the oxygen be up? If they're bobbing on the surface, do they still need the oxygen reserves (sorry if this is a dumb q) or can they survive encapsulated for a while?

The O2 will run out, such a horrible design flaw. They could die while floating on top of the ocean.

Makes sense though. In order to withstand the pressures at 12,000 foot water depth, you'd want a smooth exterior surface to increase tensile strength. You can't have portholes or doors, as those would be weak points in the design that could fail under pressure. Even external attachment anchor points could compromise the tensile strength of the surface of the hull.

Are submarines designed so that the occupants are unable to exit? These people are locked in, it’s a torture chamber. God help them if they are floating on the ocean surface unable to escape.

Submarines don't go anywhere near this depth.

I know, but it seems to be a major design flaw to have the occupants locked in, unable to ever escape.

There's no where to escape to. It's safer for all to have a sealed in chamber.

[Anonymous]

This is a total disaster. There’s some hope but I think it’s looking like the Lusitania is adding the Titan sub on SinkedIn right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why doesn't a military sub assist?

How? A “normal” sub cannot dive that deep. And if there are military subs that can and do, I don’t think their governments would want that publicly known.

Military subs can descend to 3000ft. These guys are 12000fy below.

If you think its as simple as sending down a sub to scoop up the capsule or tether a sonar beacon to a submarine and drag it around hoping to detect a ping, then I have a bridge to sell to you.

It would be like flying a kite to catch a space shuttle.

How can a military sub only go to 3000 feet, but these capsules can go to 12,000? Just wondering why the technology is so different.

I don't know, why can't commercial airplanes go to space?

That's a good question, now that you bring it up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This guy went on the sub in 2021 and said it had electrical problems back then.

It looks hot AF in that photo. The heat is what would make me freak out. I can handle the close confines, the lack of natural light, being deep underwater. But the heat would drive me nuts. You probably sweat off a lot of water.

One fart and I'm out. I don't even want to be trapped with my husband or kids, let alone strangers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is it crazy to think that the mother sub couldn’t have had some type of cable attached to the submersible? The submersible would have been found very quickly. There are already fiber optic cables spanning the oceans now. Maybe that type of cable could have been used?

I don't know the logistics that would be involved for that, but for years, there have been numerous deep sea dives and that hasn't been an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When would the oxygen be up? If they're bobbing on the surface, do they still need the oxygen reserves (sorry if this is a dumb q) or can they survive encapsulated for a while?

The O2 will run out, such a horrible design flaw. They could die while floating on top of the ocean.

Makes sense though. In order to withstand the pressures at 12,000 foot water depth, you'd want a smooth exterior surface to increase tensile strength. You can't have portholes or doors, as those would be weak points in the design that could fail under pressure. Even external attachment anchor points could compromise the tensile strength of the surface of the hull.

Are submarines designed so that the occupants are unable to exit? These people are locked in, it’s a torture chamber. God help them if they are floating on the ocean surface unable to escape.

Submarines don't go anywhere near this depth.

I know, but it seems to be a major design flaw to have the occupants locked in, unable to ever escape.

There's no where to escape to. It's safer for all to have a sealed in chamber.

Well, there are weights that they can release to get to the surface. So in theory, they could do that and then get out. Still no guarantee anyone would find them, of course, but even that isn't an option due to the design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This guy went on the sub in 2021 and said it had electrical problems back then.

It looks hot AF in that photo. The heat is what would make me freak out. I can handle the close confines, the lack of natural light, being deep underwater. But the heat would drive me nuts. You probably sweat off a lot of water.

It's pretty cold 12,000 feet down in the ocean.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand if they had the foresight for all these options for it to come back to the surface, why wasn't there some sort of GPS, navigation system, heck idk air tag or walkie talkie so when it came back up it could be located or make contact with the outside world

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When would the oxygen be up? If they're bobbing on the surface, do they still need the oxygen reserves (sorry if this is a dumb q) or can they survive encapsulated for a while?

The O2 will run out, such a horrible design flaw. They could die while floating on top of the ocean.

Makes sense though. In order to withstand the pressures at 12,000 foot water depth, you'd want a smooth exterior surface to increase tensile strength. You can't have portholes or doors, as those would be weak points in the design that could fail under pressure. Even external attachment anchor points could compromise the tensile strength of the surface of the hull.

Are submarines designed so that the occupants are unable to exit? These people are locked in, it’s a torture chamber. God help them if they are floating on the ocean surface unable to escape.

Submarines don't go anywhere near this depth.

I know, but it seems to be a major design flaw to have the occupants locked in, unable to ever escape.

There's no where to escape to. It's safer for all to have a sealed in chamber.

Well, there are weights that they can release to get to the surface. So in theory, they could do that and then get out. Still no guarantee anyone would find them, of course, but even that isn't an option due to the design.

GPS would come in handy here. Assuming no failure in the electrical system.