Why are Northern Kids Flocking to Southern Universities?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

DC parent, agree. I was about to say, "Are they?" to OP.

I also agree with the PP that the ones who do go to schools in the south do so primarily for financial reasons. Maybe weather.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

Meaning what?

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

Are you sure this is accurate? https://www.instagram.com/clemsonhillel/

[Anonymous]

Country seems a lot smaller with smart phones and social media. And when you’re a rich teen you can go anywhere you want. Why would you go to a cold weather college? Let alone cold in the miserable rust belt. The average outgoing teen is going to beeline for the sun belt. If they’re high stats smart, Duke or Vandy, maybe USC. If they’re dime a dozen “smart” one of the fun SEC schools or Clemson.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

Are you sure this is accurate? https://www.instagram.com/clemsonhillel/

I’m not sure why but Hillel International reports 0% at Clemson.

https://www.hillel.org/college/clemson-university/

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

Are you sure this is accurate? https://www.instagram.com/clemsonhillel/

They have a Hillel but the number of Jewish students out of 22,000 total enrollment is probably so small that it’s statistically insignificant and less than 1%.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

I'm seeing a lot more apply to UF UGA Tennessee Clemson SC (in that order). Combo of weather, how hard it's all gotten, some improved academics and politics after Covid craziness up north and antisemitism at schools you wouldn't expect.

How did you create that order?

Just seems a lot more applying to UF and UGA over others but depends on grades tests religion too

Religion?

Yes. More Jews at UGA UF vs Clemson for example

Cite?

New poster and if you look at Hillel International data, this is the percentage of enrolled Jewish students at those schools.

UF 19%
UGA 3%
Clemson 0%

Are you sure this is accurate? https://www.instagram.com/clemsonhillel/

I’m not sure why but Hillel International reports 0% at Clemson.

https://www.hillel.org/college/clemson-university/

UofSC is reporting higher: https://www.hillel.org/college/university-of-south-carolina/

[Anonymous]

I was at Tulane over 20 years ago. I feel like every other person on campus back then was from New York. Or at least from north of the Mason/Dixon line.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought about this topic some more and there is NO WAY the weather is the reason for selecting southern colleges.

I live in Alabama and have visited Texas and Florida many, many times.

The summers in the south are so hot and humid, people are not outside in the summers. They're inside with air conditioning on. It's too hot to hike, do any outdoor sports and even be at the pool for very long.

Summers last 6 months, in Alabama from April until October. TX and FL are even hotter than AL.

Winter in FL is nice, but in Alabama it's not particularly pleasant, it's cold and rains often. Again, no one does outdoor sports in the winter for that reason.

So let's be honest. Weather is not the reason they pick southern colleges. If you wanted nice weather you'd go to California.

you go home from college in the summer though

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Anonymous wrote:I thought about this topic some more and there is NO WAY the weather is the reason for selecting southern colleges.

I live in Alabama and have visited Texas and Florida many, many times.

The summers in the south are so hot and humid, people are not outside in the summers. They're inside with air conditioning on. It's too hot to hike, do any outdoor sports and even be at the pool for very long.

Summers last 6 months, in Alabama from April until October. TX and FL are even hotter than AL.

Winter in FL is nice, but in Alabama it's not particularly pleasant, it's cold and rains often. Again, no one does outdoor sports in the winter for that reason.

So let's be honest. Weather is not the reason they pick southern colleges. If you wanted nice weather you'd go to California.

you go home from college in the summer though

Exactly. And South Carolina UGA UF aren't as hot as south Florida or Alabama.

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Because they can get in!

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Anonymous wrote:Because they can get in!

lol apparently you haven’t heard of all the deferrals this year.

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Anonymous wrote:We are touring schools in the northeast and southeast. Southern schools are prettier, less expensive, and because of athletics driving funding, surprisingly resource rich. It’s hard to justify the cost of some of the northeast schools when we are getting better resources at state schools. And in honor programs our kid will be in small class sizes and have amazing opportunities. She likes the idea of prestigious schools, but for the value and opportunity, she may end up down south. If you haven’t toured somewhere like alabama, auburn, Georgia or ole miss, you might be surprised. And you also might be surprised at the acceptance rate and requirements at somewhere like Georgia or Georgia tech.

Going to a southern university can be a very good choice for some students. But being in an honors program does not mean all your classes will be small, and what's so "amazing" about the opportunities compared to strong schools in the northeast? Plus, you can't generalize about southern universities being more "resource rich" than northeastern schools, especially since some of the latter have huge endowments and more spending per pupil.

There may be an occasional large class, but Auburn, for example, says honors program classes have an average class size of 25-30.

Plus, endowments and spending per pupil don’t always show up in the student experience. Have you seen how many administrators some of these schools have?

http://honors.auburn.edu/about-us/#:~:text=They%20may%20also%20choose%20to,class%20size%20of%2025%2D30.

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Anonymous wrote:I am not seeing this trend (NYC parent and not suburbs). Saw this chain and looked a t kids schools Instagram to confirm. There are a few acceptances from southern schools (Vanderbilt, Emory and Tulane) but not many kids (6.3% of admits so far who posted) and all top schools. I am from the South and went to school in the South and seeing absolutely no trend to have kids look in South. If it is a trend I think it is just how hard it is to get into schools and people have expanded their lists.

For educated people, you don’t seem to grasp that your anecdotal experience the class at your kid’s school doesn’t disprove actual data. Further, you think there might be some reporting bias there? You yourself say the ones reporting Southern schools are “all top schools.” Do you think the snobby attitude reflected in your post would dissuade the kid going to Florida or Clemson from posting on Instagram? Then, of course, you admit that there might be a trend, but it doesn’t matter because …reasons. The amount of denial going on here is amusing.