What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is interesting but has nothing to do with FCB escola. It’s interesting that it keeps coming up in this head from the perspective of who is peddling it and the agendas target have brought into other threads, but apart from that, I think there was a thread dedicated to the subject where pro/rel posts belong.

Pro/rel in *youth* soccer? I missed that one, but I'd gladly go to it.

I think it beats having 10-0 blowouts across the board because teams aren't competing at the right level.

Except for the fact that getting blown out 10-0 is exactly how a team gets relegated and blowing teams out 10-0 is how the other team gets promoted.

That's kind of the point. Unless you're in the DA and have nowhere else to go.

Back to Barca -- I think one of their EDP teams is going to be relegated. Which is fine.

Which team is being relegated?

Unless EDP has no actual pro/rel, then it'd be the one that has lost all seven games and scored only twice:

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=67069&Gender=Boys&Age=14

EDP should never have put them in premier I division. The other Barca 2005 yellow team is in Premier IV and is appropriately placed. Won 3 games and most were competitive.

EDP has promotion/relegation so this team will be moved to a division that is more appropriate for them. I agree that this was a tough division for their first competitive season. To provide some context, No. 1 ranked team in Virginia finished 4th in the same division.

That 'No. 1 ranked team' - SDOR - isn't the same squad as in previous seasons (lost players to DCU) and probably weren't the No 1 team, anyway...so the context you are providing is incorrect. Barca 05 Yellow is a mid level travel team.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting how often this thread brings up the expense of Barca or soccer in general. Really? In this area? Expensive is a relative, subjective concept. Is $3k a year a lot of money? Sure. So is paying more than that each month for a mortgage. It’s only too expensive if you can’t afford it. $3000 for a structured, professionally run activity 4 days a week 10 months a year for my kid at one of the best fields in the area? Sounds like a pretty good value to me. There are parents paying that amount for piano lessons, after school gymnastics, family vacations. There are kids with $1000 iPhones. Who is the judge of what is too expensive and where a family can choose to allocate their money?

I think it was brilliant to place that academy where they did. Right in the middle of upper middle + income America. Very shrewd move to make lots of $$ from the jaded parents of those kids not taken in on the A or B teams of nearby clubs. Absolutely brilliant!

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Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

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Anonymous wrote:I find it interesting how often this thread brings up the expense of Barca or soccer in general. Really? In this area? Expensive is a relative, subjective concept. Is $3k a year a lot of money? Sure. So is paying more than that each month for a mortgage. It’s only too expensive if you can’t afford it. $3000 for a structured, professionally run activity 4 days a week 10 months a year for my kid at one of the best fields in the area? Sounds like a pretty good value to me. There are parents paying that amount for piano lessons, after school gymnastics, family vacations. There are kids with $1000 iPhones. Who is the judge of what is too expensive and where a family can choose to allocate their money?

I think it was brilliant to place that academy where they did. Right in the middle of upper middle + income America. Very shrewd move to make lots of $$ from the jaded parents of those kids not taken in on the A or B teams of nearby clubs. Absolutely brilliant!

Well, duh. Sell your product where people will buy it. Doesn’t take a genius. This isn’t the only area. Barca Academies opened or coming soon in Austin, Chicago, San Diego, other places

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Anonymous wrote:Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

Some 05s are also playing on the 04 team.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

Some 05s are also playing on the 04 team.

Very true which I view as a positive for Barca in the long term. They move players to benefit player development often at the expense of winning games, especially in the younger age groups.

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Anonymous wrote:You know there isn’t a “set” price for travel right?

Our league has rec and travel. For U9, I think it was around $1800 for travel (and the nutjob coach is free wth purchase). I am sure many pay more than that. $3,000 seems really expensive to me.

Not Barca related but I am pretty sure I have seen this coach in action at a U9 game earlier this season.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this is interesting but has nothing to do with FCB escola. It’s interesting that it keeps coming up in this head from the perspective of who is peddling it and the agendas target have brought into other threads, but apart from that, I think there was a thread dedicated to the subject where pro/rel posts belong.

Pro/rel in *youth* soccer? I missed that one, but I'd gladly go to it.

I think it beats having 10-0 blowouts across the board because teams aren't competing at the right level.

Except for the fact that getting blown out 10-0 is exactly how a team gets relegated and blowing teams out 10-0 is how the other team gets promoted.

That's kind of the point. Unless you're in the DA and have nowhere else to go.

Back to Barca -- I think one of their EDP teams is going to be relegated. Which is fine.

Which team is being relegated?

Unless EDP has no actual pro/rel, then it'd be the one that has lost all seven games and scored only twice:

http://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=67069&Gender=Boys&Age=14

EDP should never have put them in premier I division. The other Barca 2005 yellow team is in Premier IV and is appropriately placed. Won 3 games and most were competitive.

EDP has promotion/relegation so this team will be moved to a division that is more appropriate for them. I agree that this was a tough division for their first competitive season. To provide some context, No. 1 ranked team in Virginia finished 4th in the same division.

That 'No. 1 ranked team' - SDOR - isn't the same squad as in previous seasons (lost players to DCU) and probably weren't the No 1 team, anyway...so the context you are providing is incorrect. Barca 05 Yellow is a mid level travel team.

I cannot speak about SDOR roster changes, but it is a tough division with two out of top three Maryland teams. By the way, despite the tough results in the league play, this Barca Blue 05 team knocked out Bethesda Blue from the EDP conference cup. Barca 05 Yellow is the second Barca team in this age group and it did OK in their EDP division.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

Aren't all the EDP teams playing?

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Anonymous wrote:Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

Aren't all the EDP teams playing?

Not all. Tournament is open to non EDP teams I think. Barca has 4 teams going.

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Anonymous wrote:Both Barca 05 teams are playing in the same flight in the EDP winter tournament this weekend https://events.gotsport.com/events/results.aspx?EventID=68058&Gender=Boys&Age=14. In internal 05 matches Blue usually beats Yellow. I expect both teams will face a tough challenge against these other EDP teams. The blue team is ranked 30th in VA but that’s mainly from winning spring tournaments when some really good 06s were on the 05 team. That’s probably how they ended up in too high a EDP division

Aren't all the EDP teams playing?

Not all. Tournament is open to non EDP teams I think. Barca has 4 teams going.

I see. I know the 05 boys are going and the 03 boys are sending a team. Who else?

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one of the 04 boys teams

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For those of you that didn't attend, the Next Level meeting was very good. This is a step in the right direction, and as with all things Barça does, it was well done. I liked how they laid it out, and I liked that they offer support for players who are going to play collegiate soccer but also professional soccer. I've never seen a club offer both like that.

I can't wait to get the email copy of the powerpoint.

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Anonymous wrote:For those of you that didn't attend, the Next Level meeting was very good. This is a step in the right direction, and as with all things Barça does, it was well done. I liked how they laid it out, and I liked that they offer support for players who are going to play collegiate soccer but also professional soccer. I've never seen a club offer both like that.

I can't wait to get the email copy of the powerpoint.

For those not in the know, please explain what is Next Level?

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Next Level is a program Barça just started (in Nova at least). It's a program for the older kids to help them with college and professional placement. They went over the process for each one, had scouts there from colleges we could ask questions of, and showed what their plan was to help with the process. They talked about do's and dont's. They showed a sample of the hand outs they have been giving out at our showcases. Stuff like.