Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

But wait. What do you mean by Great Falls? Are you saying the Forestville Elementary Herndon/Reston/Vienna addresses get to stay at Langley?
Sometimes school districts use extra capacity as swing space and an estimated 1/2 of the 1005 Westfield to Western for grades 9 and 10 could be at Herndon. Obviously:
1. Western can hold grades 9 and 10 for option B as a comprehensive AP HS. That's estimated 863 or 50% of 1726. JIP out of South Lakes for those grades.
2. Centreville to 3000 as proposed by FCPS could not get permits. Robinson, next to Centreville, has a modular.
3. 502 out of Westfield makes space for about 350 Chantilly + Centreville 9th and 10th graders.

KAA was operating as a private school so does anyone really thing the rezoning as a public facility will not pass? Maybe that's the hang up so Plan B for partial 2026 could use Herndon as temporary swing space especially given the scheme of sending all to prior base schools for activities and sports.
3. FCPS now has a permit to use part of Western as office/administrative/security "staging" on site. Some of Workflow Routing Slip Report and complete search shows partial blueprint of the main level to see section F which has the newly approved FCPS office at Western:
NONRUP-2025-01540
Project Name: Fairfax County Public Schools
Application Submitted: 09/30/2025
Report Generated: 11/7/2025 9:24 AM

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Closed
10/10/2025

Huh?

That's the approved permit for FCPS to have office space at the new Western HS site. We don't understand the lag between the purchase date 8/15/25 and the permit submission 9/30/25. FX county staff turned it around in 10 days.
https://plus.fairfaxcounty.gov/CitizenAccess/Cap/CapDetail.aspx?Module=Building&TabName=Building&capID1=REC25&capID2=00000&capID3=028RW&agencyCode=FFX&IsToShowInspection=

Under record info due the pull down menu to attachments for some floorplans.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Coats fill Herndon HS seats now, so Great Falls will not.

Nope. Coates* is being sent to western high school based on the maps that were released. This is why the great falls crowd is apoplectic about the KAA purchase.

Great Falls has hated the idea of a western high school for a long time, dating at least back to Janie Strauss’s “sorry Langley” comment at a School Board work session 7-8 years ago where she tied a new western HS to changes in Langley’s boundaries.

Elaine Tholen spent four years on the SB opposing any efforts towards a new western HS. Guess where she lived.

Robyn Lady was very enthusiastic about the KAA purchase at first to relieve overcrowding at Chantilly but since then seems to have been convinced to argue it should be a smaller magnet.

Robyn Lady understands the real threat of a challenger winning her seat. She’s upset Great Falls (boundary study) and McLean (no renovation in sight). There will be a concerted effort to get a moderate R in her seat in two years, and the last thing that the other school board members want is to have an R who can exercise oversight function on a lot of what they and FCPS does.

There’s zero chance any R wins any seat in the next election. If Lady loses it’ll be from a primary challenger.

+1. And even that’s assuming she’d want to run again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Will great falls parents be willing to send their kids to a school with death threats from Herndon High classmates that resulted in a drive-by shooting death of a Herndon High student?

Seems like Herndon High needs to fix that problem first. Herndon High families may be used to the violence but others are not.

What do Great Falls parents plan to do about the culture at Langley: academic and social pressure that has led to multiple student suicides; vandalism at other schools; a teacher who took Langley students on a trip to Europe and encouraged them to engage in drinking and sexual activity in his presence; an aide arrested for fondling his genitals in a Langley classroom; multiple recent acts of anti-Semitism; an alumnus who killed another Langley graduate; and a Langley parent who shot his own son, then a Langley sophomore.

Herndon seems like an oasis of normalcy in comparison.

Yet somehow people in Herndon INSIST on being sent to Langley. Sounds like Great Falls parents have no issues with all of this stuff because...PRESTIGE.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Coats fill Herndon HS seats now, so Great Falls will not.

Coates already splits to Westfield and Herndon. Moving Coates kids to Herndon ES doesn’t change the number going to Herndon HS.

You're right. Only the apartments and townhouses off of Worldgate go to Herndon now. In Scenario 4, those same kids are rezoned to Herndon ES so they will stay there. That seems like a shift that could have been made a long time ago to keep those kids with the rest of the Herndon community. None of the Western maps change this.

[Anonymous]

Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

She’s just trolling. Mad because her dumb equity scheme will take at least five more years, and she wanted her kids to have new students at her school because she is afraid of the violence at HHS, even though she pretends it doesn’t exist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Will great falls parents be willing to send their kids to a school with death threats from Herndon High classmates that resulted in a drive-by shooting death of a Herndon High student?

Seems like Herndon High needs to fix that problem first. Herndon High families may be used to the violence but others are not.

What do Great Falls parents plan to do about the culture at Langley: academic and social pressure that has led to multiple student suicides; vandalism at other schools; a teacher who took Langley students on a trip to Europe and encouraged them to engage in drinking and sexual activity in his presence; an aide arrested for fondling his genitals in a Langley classroom; multiple recent acts of anti-Semitism; an alumnus who killed another Langley graduate; and a Langley parent who shot his own son, then a Langley sophomore.

Herndon seems like an oasis of normalcy in comparison.

Show of hands, how many people here think it’s “normalcy” to have a high school student receive death threats from his classmates while at school, then murdered in a drive-by shooting near a feeder elementary school, all while FCPS and Herndon High admin sweeps it under the rug and the parents dismiss the murder of the student because it didn’t happen at the school?

Hate to say, but you two are in an air tight echo chamber, and you dismissing the murder only hardens parents’ feelings that they don’t want their kids to go to a high school where murder is dismissed in the name of filling out your kid’s AAP bio class.

A better response from you is to get big mad at FCPS for letting things get out of hand at the school. Want more kids to go there? Figure out how to make it a more desirable school. It’s not rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Expand Herndon HS for those kids, do not mess with Langley or KAA.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

^ Said one of the folks who makes a mental note to post something disparaging about Herndon High every morning?

The boundaries drawn for the Western HS obviously have implications for a number of schools, including some schools that won’t themselves see kids go to Western. Centreville, Herndon, and Langley fall in that category.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

^ Said one of the folks who makes a mental note to post something disparaging about Herndon High every morning?

The boundaries drawn for the Western HS obviously have implications for a number of schools, including some schools that won’t themselves see kids go to Western. Centreville, Herndon, and Langley fall in that category.

DP. You know the maps are out and there are no implications for Langley, right? Be careful about squeezing too tight, you might blow an O-ring.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Will great falls parents be willing to send their kids to a school with death threats from Herndon High classmates that resulted in a drive-by shooting death of a Herndon High student?

Seems like Herndon High needs to fix that problem first. Herndon High families may be used to the violence but others are not.

What do Great Falls parents plan to do about the culture at Langley: academic and social pressure that has led to multiple student suicides; vandalism at other schools; a teacher who took Langley students on a trip to Europe and encouraged them to engage in drinking and sexual activity in his presence; an aide arrested for fondling his genitals in a Langley classroom; multiple recent acts of anti-Semitism; an alumnus who killed another Langley graduate; and a Langley parent who shot his own son, then a Langley sophomore.

Herndon seems like an oasis of normalcy in comparison.

Show of hands, how many people here think it’s “normalcy” to have a high school student receive death threats from his classmates while at school, then murdered in a drive-by shooting near a feeder elementary school, all while FCPS and Herndon High admin sweeps it under the rug and the parents dismiss the murder of the student because it didn’t happen at the school?

Hate to say, but you two are in an air tight echo chamber, and you dismissing the murder only hardens parents’ feelings that they don’t want their kids to go to a high school where murder is dismissed in the name of filling out your kid’s AAP bio class.

A better response from you is to get big mad at FCPS for letting things get out of hand at the school. Want more kids to go there? Figure out how to make it a more desirable school. It’s not rocket science.

The earlier post about Langley was misleading. It left out the football coach arrested for soliciting minors for sex.

If opening KAA means that Langley kids rather than Westfield or Chantilly kids move to Herndon in a few years, it sounds like it could be a better environment as well as much closer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

^ Said one of the folks who makes a mental note to post something disparaging about Herndon High every morning?

The boundaries drawn for the Western HS obviously have implications for a number of schools, including some schools that won’t themselves see kids go to Western. Centreville, Herndon, and Langley fall in that category.

DP. You know the maps are out and there are no implications for Langley, right? Be careful about squeezing too tight, you might blow an O-ring.

You think moving 200+ kids in a growing part of Tysons into Langley has no implications? Why were all those Langley parents yelling at the community meeting at Oakton, then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Getting back on topic it seems one reason they bought KAA despite capacity at Herndon is because they didn’t want to move more poor kids at Coates into Herndon. They can create a new high school with balanced demographics at Western and then move part of Langley into Herndon in the 2030 boundary review.

This is not on topic. I think you really need to get over your obsession with Langley. This conversation is about Western High School, not about Langley. Take your discussion to the greater Boundary conversation and stop derailing this one.

^ Said one of the folks who makes a mental note to post something disparaging about Herndon High every morning?

The boundaries drawn for the Western HS obviously have implications for a number of schools, including some schools that won’t themselves see kids go to Western. Centreville, Herndon, and Langley fall in that category.

DP. You know the maps are out and there are no implications for Langley, right? Be careful about squeezing too tight, you might blow an O-ring.

You think moving 200+ kids in a growing part of Tysons into Langley has no implications? Why were all those Langley parents yelling at the community meeting at Oakton, then?

PP said for western high boundaries. Try to keep up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What ridiculous incompetence.

Literally just about anywhere else in the world, even in this country, school leaders would not waste time and they would open the dang school. Instead they want to listen to people bicker and squabble over this for another year?? What a waste.

Please. There is no solution to this that will make everyone 100% happy. Stop it with the theatrics about “community input” when it won’t matter in the end. No magnet school. do it by the numbers and eliminating split feeders, there, done. Families will adapt.

Actually, anywhere else in the world they would’ve put more thought into the plan before buying such a large asset.

No. They need the school. Westfield is full, Centreville is overcrowded, and Chantilly is bursting at the seams.

Herndon has hundreds of empty seats and they’d already be working on the Centreville expansion if they had their act together.

Don’t worry, great falls will soon fill those empty seats at Herndon.

Will great falls parents be willing to send their kids to a school with death threats from Herndon High classmates that resulted in a drive-by shooting death of a Herndon High student?

Seems like Herndon High needs to fix that problem first. Herndon High families may be used to the violence but others are not.

What do Great Falls parents plan to do about the culture at Langley: academic and social pressure that has led to multiple student suicides; vandalism at other schools; a teacher who took Langley students on a trip to Europe and encouraged them to engage in drinking and sexual activity in his presence; an aide arrested for fondling his genitals in a Langley classroom; multiple recent acts of anti-Semitism; an alumnus who killed another Langley graduate; and a Langley parent who shot his own son, then a Langley sophomore.

Herndon seems like an oasis of normalcy in comparison.

Show of hands, how many people here think it’s “normalcy” to have a high school student receive death threats from his classmates while at school, then murdered in a drive-by shooting near a feeder elementary school, all while FCPS and Herndon High admin sweeps it under the rug and the parents dismiss the murder of the student because it didn’t happen at the school?

Hate to say, but you two are in an air tight echo chamber, and you dismissing the murder only hardens parents’ feelings that they don’t want their kids to go to a high school where murder is dismissed in the name of filling out your kid’s AAP bio class.

A better response from you is to get big mad at FCPS for letting things get out of hand at the school. Want more kids to go there? Figure out how to make it a more desirable school. It’s not rocket science.

The earlier post about Langley was misleading. It left out the football coach arrested for soliciting minors for sex.

If opening KAA means that Langley kids rather than Westfield or Chantilly kids move to Herndon in a few years, it sounds like it could be a better environment as well as much closer.

She pleads for people to view Langley poorly while desperately seeking those students to go to a school with a violence problem. Anything to distract from the death threats at Herndon High that resulted in the drive-by shooting of the Herndon High student.