Jimmy Kimmel show cancelled.

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Anibal Hernandez-Santana, ex-CA Teachers Union legislative director, arrested for firing 3 shots into ABC affiliate after Kimmel decision.

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Winner winner. Chicken dinner.

Sacramento shooter.

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Anonymous wrote:Kimmel's show brought in more than $70m in ad over-the-air ad revenue for ABC. That does not include Disney and Hulu revenue, does not include revenue from the 20 million youtube subscribers, does not include internatonal licensing, merchandising, sponsorships and so on.

Meanwhile the $100-120m production cost claimed is exaggerated. So, he wasn't losing them massive amounts of money as claimed.

But that said, with this move, ABC and Disney are already seeing massive losses, from a loss of over $1.5 billion in market cap and close to $100m in subscriber exits. This is a big loss for ABC and Disney. A corporate crisis.

HA! Not even close.

In the past week, Disney and it's affiliates have lost between 3.8 and 4 billion in market cap.

In an odd coincidence, the losses began with the announcement of Jimmy Kimmel's suspension.

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"Rules don't apply if election was stolen. FIGHT!"

This is what Trump calls a patriot, as I recall.

Pardon incoming?

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Anonymous wrote:All viewership has declined significantly the last 5-10 years. Television is in big trouble.

That doesn't capture all of the other outlets, such as youtube segments

This estimator thinks Jimmy Kimmel Live earns less than $1M/year on YouTube.

Not bad, but not backing $15M/yr salary + production costs.

Broadcast Television is dying. I don't understand the pay packages these stars get compared to 20 years ago when this genre was much more popular.

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Anonymous wrote:Kimmel's show brought in more than $70m in ad over-the-air ad revenue for ABC. That does not include Disney and Hulu revenue, does not include revenue from the 20 million youtube subscribers, does not include internatonal licensing, merchandising, sponsorships and so on.

Meanwhile the $100-120m production cost claimed is exaggerated. So, he wasn't losing them massive amounts of money as claimed.

But that said, with this move, ABC and Disney are already seeing massive losses, from a loss of over $1.5 billion in market cap and close to $100m in subscriber exits. This is a big loss for ABC and Disney. A corporate crisis.

HA! Not even close.

In the past week, Disney and it's affiliates have lost between 3.8 and 4 billion in market cap.

In an odd coincidence, the losses began with the announcement of Jimmy Kimmel's suspension.

"Crisis"

52-wk high 124.69
52-wk low 80.10

Disney Plus generated $10.4 billion revenue in 2024

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Anonymous wrote:Kimmel's show brought in more than $70m in ad over-the-air ad revenue for ABC. That does not include Disney and Hulu revenue, does not include revenue from the 20 million youtube subscribers, does not include internatonal licensing, merchandising, sponsorships and so on.

Meanwhile the $100-120m production cost claimed is exaggerated. So, he wasn't losing them massive amounts of money as claimed.

But that said, with this move, ABC and Disney are already seeing massive losses, from a loss of over $1.5 billion in market cap and close to $100m in subscriber exits. This is a big loss for ABC and Disney. A corporate crisis.

There was some discussion of this on the Colbert thread but th se late night shows are something of a loss leader for the entertainment companies because about half of their purpose is to promote other content —- eg anyone with a new movie or show will go on the late night circuit and it is great advertising that is much cheaper than the alternatives. So they are outsourcing some of the advertising cost for their movie companies or for other shows onto the late night shows. Kimmel talks about the bachelor a ton and probably doubles the people watching that show. Disney is very very good about cross pollination of promotion across their various platforms so Kimmel is helping them earn money even if his show is losing it (which it’s not clear that it is).

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I guess because they lost $4B in a matter of days. I guess left wingers do spend $$$ and when they don’t, it hurts.

Dems need to remind capitalists what they value. Apparently they’re listening.

Sinclair didn't lose $4B, silly.

They had the Kirk special reason to preempt Kimmel, if ABC didn't cancel Kimmel.

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DP...who is Gutfeld?

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

+1 and 70 million voters are sick of it, so his ratings fell.

Are you seriously saying that Republicans actually care what Jimmy Kimmel says on a late night show? Like they got butthurt and took it personally and somehow as non-viewers that hurt his ratings? So much conflation of being offended, not liking an individual and completely losing sight of the principles at stake. Who cares what his politics are?

I'm saying that viewers don't want totally partisan humor. It's suppised to be entertainment. That's why Johnny Carson was so beloved.

I’m old enough to remember Johnny Carson and found the show to be boring.

Me too. Leno was boring too.

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I guess because they lost $4B in a matter of days. I guess left wingers do spend $$$ and when they don’t, it hurts.

Dems need to remind capitalists what they value. Apparently they’re listening.

Sinclair didn't lose $4B, silly.

They had the Kirk special reason to preempt Kimmel, if ABC didn't cancel Kimmel.

No one preempted Kimmel with the Charlie Kirk special - they aired Celebrity Family Feud reruns instead.

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Anonymous wrote:Anibal Hernandez-Santana, ex-CA Teachers Union legislative director, arrested for firing 3 shots into ABC affiliate after Kimmel decision.

Liberals are ignoring this violent incident.
Fortunately nobody was killed by this crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:Anibal Hernandez-Santana, ex-CA Teachers Union legislative director, arrested for firing 3 shots into ABC affiliate after Kimmel decision.

And California released him after he posted bail. Luckily, the FBI picked him up and is holding him without bail.

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Anonymous wrote:Disney is playing chess, but most of you are playing checkers. When the most expensive employee in a dying industry says something completely offensive and untrue, that’s a great opportunity to lower your overhead and not get blamed.

This armchair CEO garbage isn't going to cover up the fact that a federal government employee publicly threatened to take major punitive action against a private company in order to censor the speech of their employee. Conservatives used to find this scenario appalling and completely against the Constitution.

But Kimmel spread a hurtful lie that he easily could have fact checked, had he stepped out of his bubble. He wasn’t even telling a joke, he was making a political speech.

It wasn’t a lie - the MAGA crowd had been trying desperately to make people believe that the murderer was part of some leftist group starting when Kirk’s body was still warm. That was their number one priority.

Also, this should go without saying but comedians are allowed to make political speeches just like they are allowed to tell jokes in America.

At least the America I know. /Captain Von Trapp voice

He is a leftist, though. People weren't wrong.

+1. And your employers don't have to keep you.

That is true.
However there are rules/laws in place that do protect people from being unjustly terminated.

And these laws exist to protect people from unfair practices, etc.

These laws exist so that people can enjoy the rights (vs. privileges) that are due them.

Based on his comments, he could easily have been fired for cause.

What —exactly— about his comments would easily support “cause”? Yes, I’ve heard the comments and read multiple opinions about them.

looking at his ratings? Poor performance.

Kimmel was trying to prop up the lie that MAGA killed Kirk. The same lie that the moderator here tried to persuade us to believe, and had to say he was wrong.


He lead in his open monologue that the people on the right doing everything they could to say the shooter wasn’t like them. He was not joking, this was not a joke, he had to know how raw the country was on Monday night, and to use his monologue to spread outright inflammatory discourse like that is unacceptable. To use his medium to confuse and mislead people is unforgivable. He had a battery of writers and producers, and no one flagged it. He and they knew what he was doing and did it anyways because he thought they were untouchable.

Please quote the words the Kimmel used that said that he, Jimmy Kimmel, thought MAGA killed Kirk. Please quote the exact word with which you have a problem.

Kimmel: "We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it. In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving on Friday. The White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this."

That is not a lie. That is an accurate observation of what occurred all over the internet. The exact same observation could be made about the left. The other "them". At no point did Kimmel state as a fact the kid was MAGA. At no point did he say that it was MAGA that killed Kimmel. He merely made an observation. An accurate observation.

THe fact that you cite this as a lie is evidence you expect nothing other than obeisance to all things MAGA. Which makes your desires more appropriate for North Korea.

At the time, the evidence suggested the shooter very likely was not a MAGA believer (and evidence released the next day showed that he almost certainly was on the political left).

I think it's fair to say that a lot of people on the left at least understood what it was people on the right were reacting to. It wasn't Kimmel's flat joke about Trump's stages of grief, it was the suggestion that the killer was right wing.

“Kimmel was expressing what we’ve heard some other liberals say in recent days that the motives are unclear and that maybe the suspect in this case was a Republican or was some sort of far right fringe figure. Of course, there has been a lot of discussion about that in recent days. There’s a lot of evidence pointing in other directions about the suspect, but Kimmel was on the air talking about this, making a very serious commentary amid his jokes in his monologue Monday night.” Brian Stelter, CNN

I think that it is fair to say that people on the left who heard that joke thought it was a joke about what had happened (not to Kirk) in the MAGAsphere on the 10th. And go look at right-wing luminaries on twitter in the 10th after Kirk got shot. Laura Loomer within minutes was screaming about Islamic terrorism. That's just one example. There are dozens of influencers who similarly tried to point the finger at various groups.

What Kimmel said was a 100% accurate observation as to what was happening on the 10th. 100%. Would it have been MORE complete to say the left was doing the same thing? Absolutely. The left was instantly on the fact that it was Utah, MAGA territory, his father, guns in the house, etc.

By the logic you seem to endorse for his suspension, every single talking head out there should be out of a job. Every single influencer and poster on DCUM. Every one on Reddit, etc. That's what people do. They make guesses, make observations and draw conclusions and more often than not they are wrong.

Kimmel could have made an actual joke about how neither side (left/right) wanted the shooter to be aligned with their political party.

Did he mention the left? Noooo. Only MAGA. Why didn’t he mention the left?

Because Kimmel is a democrat and only tells jokes about republicans.

+1 and 70 million voters are sick of it, so his ratings fell.

Are you seriously saying that Republicans actually care what Jimmy Kimmel says on a late night show? Like they got butthurt and took it personally and somehow as non-viewers that hurt his ratings? So much conflation of being offended, not liking an individual and completely losing sight of the principles at stake. Who cares what his politics are?

I'm saying that viewers don't want totally partisan humor. It's suppised to be entertainment. That's why Johnny Carson was so beloved.

I’m old enough to remember Johnny Carson and found the show to be boring.

Me too. Leno was boring too.

That's fine to not enjoy non-political humor; however, Carson in particular was beloved by millions who laughed with him on a nightly basis. His humor was often subtle and involved his facial expressions. He wasn't trying to use humor to insult groups of people who didn't hold his political views.

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Anonymous wrote:Anibal Hernandez-Santana, ex-CA Teachers Union legislative director, arrested for firing 3 shots into ABC affiliate after Kimmel decision.

Liberals are ignoring this violent incident.
Fortunately nobody was killed by this crazy.

And MAGA ignored the right-wing nutjob Desmond Holly when he shot up Evergreen High School. Too busy being concerned about Charles Kirk.